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Our first guide Agnes Baden Powell what what was she like? You have never heard of

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Agnes What do you mean in the chief Scout system? That's right. Yes. Well when they started the guide they wanted to have a chief and they had a chief Scout system he looked like a very well dressed lady in the no uniform I don't think she ever wore you never know because the Chiefs count you see

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was that was asked a

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similar question to how

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his wife became a cute guy. Yes. And what happened to Agnes at that time that she wanted the ID

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or health I never

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would have the slide of the coneflower because ours is made up of the church in West Kirby went to the cauliflower Oh, what was the result of that?

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It is as hard as it was it did anybody either they might have expected

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and I like the story where you're at you're at the back

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surprise surprise surprised

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you carried over

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worked out

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it worked out you carried on and didn't

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complain about it probably uniform.

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You will teach calculus there. I didn't speak to them because

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they're very attractive. Easy to talk to. She was only about 2550 She was ready to make friends interested in who she's talking to

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she wrote a spectacular declaration

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and never knew whether we should pronounce it or not poll that he really enjoyed generally gets accepted

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you're reading in the historical magazine, but the chief Scout English Romania I don't know when we discussed that you did come in and it was a gathering you know that I missed next time. I'll bring you that copy of that magazine.

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Now you mentioned

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moving together

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from an IMO, because it would have been backwards beyond that. We were out in the woods at that time.

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There was a strike of denial for three years. The strikers were violent into theaters very much a place to live forever we like the country and the islands have so much love

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so what did you do? What did your parents do

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they had a nice job it didn't do anything spectacular. It just lived

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in shipping with an office that says went out to Brazil intending to live there he was the Vice Consul at Porto Alegre and then it was so bad health of the children the doctor wants them to go back to your client which was so down for the last one baby

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she's just across the river from Liverpool that's what the office was that was shipped rise forces to South America

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what else what else do you remember about guiding

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remember tremendously keen about it. And then we have great meetings and outings Good Times All right, help people I'm trying to work on something that would lead to proficiency

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sometimes because sometimes in another

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if you mentioned benchmarks here it sounds like a bad night but I think it'll be very

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good thing in your interest and it's all useful both once for some people and something happened to the engine just in his face with a tiger's straw going through a narrow place between rocks and so I have no data right off of that right? We wouldn't have gone on the rocks

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is bad you had to know the title of magic seven to really get to the meat of the dog to be able to grow from a match

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these are all things I learned in the Navy.

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as pricing

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Leaving nights from home could you tell me a little bit about your time. Emily Carr's house what

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about my visit to

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the state of a house of all sorts for

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10 days. Ahead study singing must be in town. I went to Victoria tried to get housework which will give me room and board and some pocket money. Every house she just was keeping borders. I never heard a word about If I didn't think of her as a painter at all, she never mentioned that she had painted the picture to the house. She had a large room that she knows she would say that's the company. She has several awards as well as you have put in there about the night that I woke up with a mouse on my pillow. No, no. That was stupid. Straight up the wall and then into the son Garrett. One night there was a mouse on my pillow. And that was a big tumor. Because what was jumped out of my daughter's house Oh, my man's small so I almost jumped down those stairs that was asleep on the chest if you pick it up candidate up the stairs, threw it into the room and bang the door went down, slept on the couch.

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Didn't catch the mouse.

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I don't know what happened to the house

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walk with me was some of the big shipped ups. She showed sheepdogs. Six

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to that he became famous. That was about 1920 to 22. I started studying ballistics.

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In the tour

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in Victoria, it was with him as student assistants accompanist and secretary for 29 years after that he returned to that category for 23 years that myself have to be good enough I could do

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that once the guide or was the guy

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that was very prominent in English listed of all county commissioners friends, great friends

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she told lady beauty beautiful photograph

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thank you

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I was astonished that she recognized me and Victoria for sure. Look out for me

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from time to time we're in Victoria

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1940 and this will be afros with Mr. Gates, which was 1920 so it would be seven years at least that's remembering their sights somebody's not even in uniform.

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have trouble here when I see people dressed up away from when I first met

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and received that the six or seven years so twice for me seeing off on the train another time I was talking to you but in a

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way she noticed

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my Superfish been able to scale she was wearing a new kind of switch which is straight.

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She said that was just to the edges but that didn't show up in my jacket I have a Medal of Merit she'd seen that she would evidence

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have to get used to

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that to be very much

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if we can arise we had a bicycle patrol drop ferry rockfish days were training ships way that the man that's so famous was the Conway when we went to finish up with the captain as a boy so when we got back I sent him a sketch of made from the floor job I think you know I made it from the shore it was maybe lucky covered so he's because he's a historian we met one in Vancouver and a strange man appeared at the door at the breakfast table. That was a separate table. He said I had breakfast in London this morning. So I don't even know any other plumbing. He said well ahead of the Conway. We lived about a stone's throw from Conway about three years I should they called me the captain because as the last 123 times and then he said look I want to catch him so that we became my friends he fixed up a Mousehole in our bedroom

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was a scout

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you ever done a bouncy island you know the island did for you use of the Scouts and Guides but from the very beginning

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phases out and now they became a guy from Scotland center so wooded island in the middle of fall harbor doses

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which can

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be oh well just get a bonus it's a famous it's given to the National Trust now I believe that it's the beginning of Scouting

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is a picture of me in a Siemens Institute in Vancouver

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guys nowadays, divided up into this guys and brownies. Like that,

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no, just look at the guys when they added the Pathfinders at the top end but the ground is at the bottom and so it covers a much longer range of ages. But it gets them into it for a longer period of time is not very wide. What

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I find strange. We had guys at the top age was 18 then they could be left at 24

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Anything else you'd like to add on

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whether you should have

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was a very big organization

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he'll make it take

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this information

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just be what's on there anything else at all

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I don't know I can't think of anything if you looked at

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this struck you and you already

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know more we already discussed today

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after the after the

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is candidate Mr candidate this Chair Mr. Kennedy and sold it out several times for him that piece of property just two years ago and I don't

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remember first one

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before that

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was before the hotels Rogers is the first store a brand new

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they're after

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stepping up

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their arches they must have built the White House

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step by step

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right from our time so just about him

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No, no no no it was Jim Jim Rogers in

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Virginia Nice to be here

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thing that take care of this little church church journey

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Oh yes, it was built with the nightingale get

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in there must have been I think, just before the turn of the century

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turn of the century, I'm sure that's right.

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Anything No

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we don't want to just take our your grandfather would just be all trees and how long would it take the first few weeks

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well what's the thing that quite a while because they're the minerals clearing land in the valley to the boys by the darkness please

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seven feet cedar trees

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what would the first thing be that they would do they live off the land prior to a dry vegetable

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garden and orchard

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trees and so on so we have even depressed at some domains to say six

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harder authority alright so far into it it is waiting on the site boring boring ordered another roll down on an angle and then they would take charcoal clothes from their fires and

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push these clothes in the back

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because it means I got the Goodstart pictures I mean they're in the correct cost graph

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later days same thing on the ground they will do the same thing for me so far

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worried about preparing your arrival Victoria

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well my grandmother Bertha claims she she left England and

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two sisters came out of the robbery into Victoria. She worked she was she can look witnesses David Spencer merchants and preparing the early days and she had worked for a while until she

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never married

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my family that grandfather eight children they were the first family in the burger

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just asked me who was the first white

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Saltspring French to

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your Uncle Joe was always I always do that.

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Well that's that's what I heard I know if you remember Johnny wins Johnny wins it's the setting on the cloud and then he was about a character in a joking and when the era days boats used to come in to the Ganges and all the old timers just like go down and see what to do and Johnny was standing there in this tourist first our Johnny has about 30 days any old timers around Johnny he was a black man over there sitting on the gardener and was Joe aprons and he was a first white child born on Salisbury premises second

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said your father was working with the agents

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well we

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picture here the church he had

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a big splash back there even though old and he transport a lot of that lumber windows doors from Bergen Bay down to Bilbao, church sea level the windows and doors and flooring came from the letter church

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they stone church so they know it they're early days and they come they're so nervous flooring and other lumber was donated to this church now we're actually from the better church

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96 I don't think actually

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Saltspring saga said that there was an attempt in Victoria

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60 to

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get set these

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these were people that had done a big party and when they launched the caribou but they were destitute

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one of the

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biggest worries the old timers in 30 days anybody who was badly hurt or sick

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have a doctor anywhere

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my grandma had a daughter and she she was pretty good

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on anything like that second, I guess it was I guess she was

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looked after

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tourney work I think she brought into the baby's

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mother died sick right is the

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customer has

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asked you you gave us a tank of birthless properties in

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fact our paper

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surveyor progress tracking down in an orderly fashion

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I can get a map up or down and

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take us through what's

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something is

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not there for

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those characters

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I will get a map of that area and I can put on the original article

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to get those arms on the border down in the valley on either side

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felt that they sold square A lot of us was well the ones when they are filled with houses in the square temporary

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loan that's the old term was your ask. Oh that

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was that the original cabin or was there an earlier one? Yeah further west

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there was one first year he built a small log cabin just after barely more under the law Bruce declared an orchard there and I guess it must have been in the summertime when he went in there because there's always some sunshine sunshine

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so he moved across the valley

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they're making that same mistake today by their property and somebody tells me that way we get

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sick time being as talking to people

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yes Nick has

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my back I have I have a lot of can't seem to okay a lot of a fixers that are

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given them again

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bar Barban to

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she said Nightingale one of the

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churches of economics in the Victorian age there's another chapter on the bottom and these six items.

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Know I don't think it is

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I think there's something Nightingale

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That's right. That's right. I think that's one of

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the finest minds like to use our next round of postcards. That's a similar one. So let's say

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this one here is the old

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grandmother Grandmother and some of the family

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this one is

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still live at the end

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I have a lot of baskets

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Oh yes yes

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yes I have quite a few my grandma's baskets okay critical scraper for

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scraping types or

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that's about all I have all my next paint mix paint

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chip when you are