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On February 12 1990, Ron Lee asked questions here and there

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Yeah, well we in the boat 1830 Greek grandpa grandfather came from England he was one of 11 Boys and he guarantee some some disagreement in the family so he he pulled up and left and of course they never knew where he went and never knew any more about 250 since around there through some of the creditors who went back and found

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but he was married then in Ontario and to marry get some yeah and they had four children

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Joe Tom and Ed and Sister Helen Helen died very young it came to Salt Spring and Summer somebody

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that 180 85

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Was it he okay. That was great fun. Yeah. And he had a big family. And then Tom grandfather, he came to Salt Springs but later he was married and head to toe more risks were born here. Nothing Lawrence

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Lawrence died quite young. She was at college

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she was at college in Victoria,

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Vancouver. Spelman saddest thing for my time

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I will go into the deadlies family he had so many really wants to do.

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Oh yes, go ahead. There's nobody else that knows this now.

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At least he married he married a widow who had two children that was pretty bad

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and probably record and then there was it was legally legally married surely Bertha I don't know if she married I don't even know pioner to marry when they reply to

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lower lower microfiche data to police and when he stands next sounds good to the burn and not oh yeah well Billy Madison would probably step

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that's above all in them

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grandfather I didn't leave those

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anyway, there was at Sun Melbourne and mod

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I guess you have who they married to?

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Yes. Okay. Marge, she married. John Mahler was a brother to Charlie. Married they had three, three children. And bless

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Florence and Edna. Edna Fraser Oh yes.

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And then that had to come to us so often the further in the he had three girls to have a set of twins key. K is the 1k Catlin, yeah and then the yeah Francis Francis

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Melbourne he has married but didn't have any children

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who did he marry somebody on Saltspring No

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they weren't they were both overseas

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so now you you're down to the more recent people

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yeah. Yes, that's I think that's all of that family.

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Did any of them have occupations here on the island?

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Now? No, Melbourne. boats in the fire department. After the first war, it was in the in the sports they definitely retired

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he did she married she had one child

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she lived in lastly in California

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still living here

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now you said your father drove this logging truck on Saltspring Yes, he drove it here. Was he no longer

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fun? Oh, you love what he loves. But you do it here and then he took a suit and drove down there for about a year

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and this was the first logging truck on Saltspring Charlie

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so when when were you born? I was

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making me your name. And were you the eldest Yes. So absorbed enough to remember the first of all broke out the fellas grants role joining the army anyway

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so what did you as a child, what did you do? And you had to help

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people? Yes. Yes, we had quite a number of love chickens. 1000 chickens. 1516 no cows. Pigs. Six girls.

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And where did you Where did you live? Don't hold the last house. The bottom of the hill on that gravel road.

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No, no, no. Right here. I see. With the first gig coming up the hill.

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That where the yeah. Nice thing Did you and Did did you go to school? Yes. Where did you go to school

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at school in the Brooklyn school?

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That would be the first Bergling school

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there was one before that before my time but I only heard about burnt down

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would your father and his family have gone to prison?

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Yes because that is only six years old when they came to Salt Springs

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and I think that was around the time they built a new school

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no all these 1000 tickets before you went to school

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at least you didn't have far to go to school knows where to go so who else went to school at that time around here a lot of people

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there was a I think those times for the kids

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that many there'll be a lot of a increment

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commands

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that does that next one

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How about furnace

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No, they were too old. They did have two nephews that came and lived with them for a while

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and there will be

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declared which was to make stepdaughter

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jives with a tool due

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to younger chars

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perfect so it was three

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so that was quite a number of

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yeah, yes. They're quite big families.

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I've seen pictures where there are a lot a lot of children in the picture now how did you do your shopping?

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There was a store halfway down the valley custom Jaysus Oh, yes. And then Patterson had stored beaver point and he used to deliver it through the center of the island one day a week I

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think it was that would be groceries. Yes. Yeah. So did you have to go to Ganges

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Yes, we went again today for some things oh yes. Yeah. And we have a car I was at a car 14 Did you

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Oh yes. Yeah. Oh, and it was a few cars around in fact it's quite a few you've seen the pictures of the Ford picknix Like previous pictures I think doesn't forwards

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and your dad used to go to that

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oh yes we oh yes there is a picture a picture of our car and that's sitting

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so when you went to Ganges it would be a major trip.

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Well no, we used to go up maybe once a week we see yes you wouldn't see each other back we will forward positive feed

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so you weren't isolated here?

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Not really. And we shipped all our farm produce we shipped by boat which was a boat and around the outside we shipped most are some Burgoyne it was worth it Burgoyne boats come in there once a week.

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Oh, what boats

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sicker it started up the wreck was the one that sank and then after that we CPR boats. carry passengers and freight.

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Oh and and where did it go to Victoria?

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Victoria through this side of the pen. No, no, no. And then back down and cut this side of the island and we'll be back It called for the Ganges. The studious and

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what better service than we get today? Yes. So what did you ship AIX we ship

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all the reads with the town and then we do without the potatoes down the butter because the cream with that creamy butter and then we get pigs to use the milk up because you get all that skim milk so you're 400 pounds a day maybe or more. And then a Kaz in cats we didn't keep well they were all butchered about 10 weeks old people shift and count all the apples or any vegetables which you like the carrots or turnips all that potatoes What about fruit and all the fruit we had to go

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that's the big word should just stop

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yes there was an item that orchard was producing a 2000 boxes Oh my

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call it down the wagon them to Brooklyn. Because it was too much you could use to hold the eggs in the car. But it'd be good

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that would be a rough road to

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better than it is now. Really fell a little bit now work with better?

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Yes. Yes, it's terrible now.

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That road is over 100 years old. And then never do don't do any work

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well, you did have a lot of farming to do.

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Yes, you did.

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You must have been very busy.

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Usually about six cows in the morning, and then go from there and start to separate it going

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and separating the milk on the dead finished. We bring the rest of the milk. We did that for breakfast before we went to school and had breakfast.

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And I guess a lot of the farm children had to do the same. Yes.

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A lot of them did. Goodness, most kids had work to do. That was the thing.

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So you had many fairies and you had your model T and your wagon and the wagon would have been pulled by horses. Oh yes. Did you ride horses?

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Oh yeah. They were fine horses

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and what did you do for fun?

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Oh, summertime we break the thing was to hit the Burgoyne to fit to swim or fish.

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I guess you couldn't wait the warmth of

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the work right. And of course that was that was the number of dances

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Did you were you involved in any sports? Like soccer that I commend him

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not later yeah, we used to during that time we 1516 We used to play soccer and baseball

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then after that, then they got got this project going and had boxing, wrestling and all sorts of things. We like that.

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Was that and Fulford Hall

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now your mother was a mullet. You have some information about the Moloch family?

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Yes. Well, the kids I wouldn't call some time that like you remember right back in 1860s. Jersey.

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Was that directly to Saltspring?

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No, they came to Ontario and they lived until you They came out by selling selling pretty faithful six weeks or two months I think those are the six and then they left Ontario I think they made a trip back to your country.

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And then they came to Victoria. Would this be a John Mala John this is John my grandfather right

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into Victoria for a time then he worked for the government their thing and then they he went

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to Alberni as an Indian agent they lived in Alberni that time because was in a room they went around my

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house and everything built John and Charlie mother went to first school in the Alberni Valley and then from there, I'm not sure how long came to Salt Spring and was Mayor State Farm there for quite some time. When they met there, there's another declared John chatty, got married and each one of them settled on the phones which they are named Dawn glasses, and the one down valley here just excuse so that's

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so both the brothers lived in the valley.

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Yes. What ready? Perfect. Where this is living now. That was the fire. Yes. And then the one in the valley was just the one on the left hand side remote in Zion. Yes, Charlie's.

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And he had a very beautiful home. I understand.

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That was wrapped up across the road on the other side of the road. The focus side, he had there was house there. He built a house there. It was a nice house. And he had a beautiful garden hobby to this to this garden, and people use touristy stuff in the restaurant.

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And I understand that house was torn down.

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Yes, it was. Yeah. Can he cut the police? He tore it down and built some cottages.

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It was too bad. I heard that people felt very badly seeing it torn down

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so now, there's a house up here where Stuart used to live?

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Yes. The one where Stuart used to live is my grandfather's old house.

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Oh, I see. That was the original house

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original house. It was much larger than this but a big house and the took headed leader warbirds he took half the house off. Change it around a bit.

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He took the upstairs off no the

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upper top and upper half of the house or at least at one end of that. north north end of the house. Oh I believe there was some trouble with being too close to the ground and that he had started right underneath. And so me. So it was the best part of the house.

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Now, did your grandparents live a long time after they came here? Do you remember them?

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Oh yes. Oh, yes. My grandmother died 1935. And my grandfather. He died in 1940.

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Oh, you know them well then. Oh, yes. So what did your grandmother do? Did she was she an active member of the community? I

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don't think she was she. She used to work on the farm like crazy used to have cows and everything. I remember the

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milking. She'd be up and milking cows with my grandfather. And he ran some sheep and mouth And of course the orchards were quite a thing because a lot of that fruit

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so she was a hard working farm with pork for son, no three sons and a daughter. I see. I'm just going to stop this. Your mother was very active in the Burgoyne church.

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Yes, yeah. She was the first secretary, I guess in the church and she used and she did was the organism to Oregon.

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I think there was a lot more people with the kids than there is now. I think there is the old books and minutes and

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the meetings. Yes, I have those. Well, not the originals. We have copies. Yeah.

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Yeah, she kept the minutes. Yes, yes. And so naturally, you and Clifford would have had to go to Sunday school. Oh, yeah, we went

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pretty well to where she wasn't swept church to the last button that she calls

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during harvest time, there was quite a bit of grain to be thrashed because people use the grain feeding the cattle and chickens. And it was always just maybe one machine on the island and it was start and go through the whole island. And it was usually a crew but maybe 10 Min. So everybody long all the neighbors were long with machine from one to another sort of thing. And it was quite a quite a thing went on for two or three weeks or maybe close to a month where even people who were having this regime of course they set the gain and everything to be done maybe they only took a day or something like that. That each one

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who owns the machine. Lloyd Reynolds had that machine

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would it been up I

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think Jim Hall I think had a machine and then Lloyd wants to go because

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so it was like the prairie threshing

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that's right crew this with

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that would be interesting. Yes. So did the community do anything together building anything? Or what about the first hall that the community was

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the wins the institute? Were the instigators of it Yeah, because it's mostly free labor outside he wanted to overseers and then that all burned down second Hall

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was also a community's Yes.

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Was it still a Wednesday is to call and this last Hall? The prison hall there now was built in

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37 they can do some and it was still then do they tend to do it to the corporate community? They do like

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that house burnt down I have the lumber barge in that hooked you seen there? She made his Lumber Company for it.

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So did it burn down three times or four? Twice twice. So this is the third hole Yeah, this

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is the third hole

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I understand all the leaves are buried down in St. Mary's even though were they Anglicans, even though they were Yes. Oh I see.

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This cemetery was so small that just so people were so many were buried in the end of the church even though maybe the service was

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had some very wet

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yes. Oh yes. That mean it's

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no

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so some of the family went to the wars. Where one

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absented from old sound. And in Melbourne, Tommy's from solspec and then hit these family Hutson the first one

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they all returned we can do but Newcomb died showing you

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that you have the after

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World War Two that was

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the promotion sound and art come here and myself I was the only one that was killed in the middle trying to suspend my stood on. And Arthur Arthur Yes, he was killed in Italy