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Naukana Ancestors Elders Reunion

May 2019

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Date May 2019
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duration 68 minutes

430_Naukana-Ancestors-Elders-Reunion_05.2019.mp3

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Outline

    Hawaiian culture and heritage.
  • Unknown speaker discusses starting time, while Speaker 1 mentions being ready to go and adds their name to the conversation.
  • Speaker 1 greets family, sings "Lahainaluna," and explains tag descent.
  • Speaker 1 shares stories about family history and culture, including a Hawaiian gathering with hula performances.
  • Speaker 1 welcomes guests with traditional Hawaiian chant, acknowledging their ancestry and cultural heritage.
    Indigenous language and culture.
  • Dennis Yumna welcomes everyone to share songs and language, emphasizing the importance of vibration and energy.
  • Speaker 3 shares their culture and language, emphasizing the importance of vocal tone and acceptance in their community.
    Hawaiian history and culture.
  • Speakers reminisce about past holiday experiences and express desire to return to them.
  • Speaker 1 discusses a song called "Eat Corner" written about a Kona district on Hawaii's Big Island, where their family has been hunting for years.
  • Speaker 1 checks if the technology is working properly before starting the meeting.
    Family history and genealogy.
  • Unknown speaker discusses family history and genealogy with Speaker 6.
  • Brother James Harris married Annie, but died 8 months later, leaving 3 younger sisters.
  • Group remembers loved ones at a graveyard visit.
  • Unknown speaker discusses family history and a painting with Speaker 8.
    Family history and genealogy.
  • Speaker 10 shares memories of growing up on Saltspring Island with the Hagen and Longley families.
  • Kathy wants to buy properties in Isabella Point, where her father's house was built.

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have a really nice we're gonna go

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probably wants to maybe I should just sit with the song

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right the microphone we can all

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big reason

Speaker 1 4:36
We're only about an hour off her time someone asked me when we were going to start and I said well I'm shooting for one but we're all one roll old tool. We're Hawaiian Indian also so I think we're inside that our mark I think we did pretty damn good On

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all fairness the ferry played into that

Speaker 1 5:08
people were waiting on Paris, but we're ready to go now. We're going to add this is this is Annie. Aloha. Any word for Hello her family and we bought and he's gonna sing Lahainaluna and we're gonna sort of back her up vertically we don't screw things up brother David over there Dave rollin Lonnie this this is my sister Ethel's daughter clever girl same music and everybody everybody who has a tag by the way is a descendant of now okay so that's why some people are not carrying the tag it's because they are their family but they are not a descendant Okay, so not having a little se let you do this

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watching

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sunrise and sunset

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hallway

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hallway is the place for me that's where you

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start

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hey now they sing along Siri are they? Oh no they gotta get happy. Oh that sounds too serious.

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Who wants to hold up first James Joseph

Speaker 1 10:22
This is Tamra Lord this is brilliant Oh Stan Harris our oldest living relative right now this is granddaughter she loves to dance Connelly wound for it and now you guys know the song or use the chorus or whatever jump on in and sing if you like if not just sit back and listen and watch oh can you hear Can you hear all the stuff I can do that

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Speaker 1 11:06
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holily by booth you will be by the sea and re breathe

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will whisper you

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is lighting

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know

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when you see by guna

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you will be

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the sea and re breed

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him every wave will whisper you on

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Speaker 1 14:45
What's the Hawaiian gathering about a hula or two thankfully some of our some of our family has taken the time to learn some of that battery gets warmed up I just want to do a bit of the greeting and I think Fred got my wrong glasses on. He's gonna do a little different reading also to welcome you here. This is an oldie Aloha Ollie just means chant Aloha means love and welcome this is pretty traditional so this is why we put it here at the beginning

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Speaker 1 16:05
oh come a code I put oh come on like a Monday Oh my Wait oh oh A M Hello. My chat said now that the welcome mat is out and everything is prepared. This is the site for which I have longed now that you have come love comes with you. Welcome greetings Okoma Kona poo oh now come Akamai means we are the friends and family of Malka come to visit and to see look upon us graciously with love. lo ha No.

Speaker 1 16:51
Now, on the other side on the flip side of our heritage. Now cover was the Hawaiian descent. Here's why. We're all up First Nations descent. So we are very steeped in both cultures. So it's only fair that we do both welcomes and greetings. Do you need the mic? This is Fred Roland Roland Jr. You

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was the last of our Mohicans. He said yes.

Speaker 3 17:36
I am in the sea ice. A cleaver. Dennis yum and not tomorrow. squalane play mono eight Dennis Yumna Thomas retired in squalane book he I'm not it and CMCI Hi Scott newness Yum, then image in ECM squalane. And do with it in this yam squad alone. Label I Dennis yum. It Katana CMCI is in our whole community of language, which again has seven dialects of it. This is only if the more recent ones we use, again welcoming everyone that is here today. We always say that we welcome everyone that comes from all different linear lines. In our language, we refer to that as Squall Mo, you're all indigenous from somewhere. So we come here today again, they can my relations for their songs for sharing, they can each and every one of you, we say it nuts a month and a squalor when to come here in a good heart in the Spirit. So when we share the songs of these lands here, we might start less than I in our language we call our wives are spotless. We were this morning doing chanting and singing for a group. Not the thing that we share much of is again, vibration. our energy, our whole being is vibration. You'll look at our old soul coin, our elders here. That's old vibration. We're just carrying that cell memory on through songs and language. So thank each and every one of you for coming today. So one of the songs we share is just to welcome everybody to be in a good spirit. And, again, we use our language and a lot of our different songs. I shared this morning that when I travel around the world and share our culture, a lot of people say can you sing me a traditional song? No, I say I can't. Because all our songs belong in our homes and our long houses. They all need to get sung in that place. I'll sing you a contemporary song

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Speaker 3 21:35
with a lot of our languages and a lot of our cultures, a lot of people when we go to places a lot of people say Do you need a microphone and we all say we sing along waves so we have to tone our voices down when we sing in small places like this because of vibration agree too much. I know a lot of you haven't eaten yet. So Aloha, Nui, Nui. Aloha. thank each and every one of you. A lot of people will say why do you do that in your culture? I always tell people what does that mean? Stop back away. What we're saying is in our culture we say we accept everything we're receiving everything thank you for everything you bring to us. So I never got Thank you. Thank you I was just about to swim here when we missed the ferry. I knew how to get one o'clock I tell you even for you

Speaker 1 22:42
you sounding good you look good too. Okay, what can we do now? Let's do let's do let's do that that real cool tapper

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Oh my bones

Speaker 1 23:12
so nice to see everybody visiting and catching up there are but I've seen a few pictures out there that I really want to get another another look at so please don't put them away share these pictures

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I asked Lee if she wanted to dance system she declined

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no shame

Speaker 1 23:44
actually, she doesn't have her outfit. We did this for Christmas one time it's called my little grass shack. And we did this for Christmas pet one time and we had just the t shirt and perennial I think we had the coconut bra but we just put it around her head didn't tie back to the swan like

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oh it's quite spectacular

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I want to go back to inverted

Speaker 2 24:23
commas and Mahina that I used so long ago I could do the guitars play on the beach and here they are.

Speaker 1 24:40
oh my golly Velika however

Speaker 2 24:46
will you say anything bad? This round Oh please, as always see just a little All right and I want to go back to my vision again

Speaker 2 25:20
want to go back to you I want to be with you so long ago and I can do that again on the beach at all now now that we all

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know qu e Gohan live Ellika however along who should

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go Randall Blaze ways to see

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Speaker 1 26:10
I want to go back branch is good

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to see you

Speaker 1 26:49
yeah sure I'm sorry I think we're running you a little late aren't we? You're okay Oh I hear she got out of something we're gonna do the song the song is called Eat corner and it is written about that area on this is not my my thing. It was written about an area on the Big Island of Hawaii called the Kona district this is where our family and I've been hunting down our family for a lot of years and there's evidence that we came originally from the Big Island area quite high harbor at the north of the big island there's what's called a corner I hope this does not look like my church but let's hope that it works. This is This is insane. Okay it should work now not too fast right

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Speaker 1 30:38
big time all right we got Are we prepared for anything else? Let the games begin yeah I think I think we're gonna get back to some of the visit near so maybe we can do some more a little bit later but I don't want to take up time valuable time without seeing some of these folders and things so please please help yourself to whatever you see on the back table their food and there's drinks there's water in the fridge and stuff so let's let's go any cookina

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recorder yeah

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know what we have over here is this is my thing and what I wanted to show

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was still somebody somebody's recorder does your recorder July the first No Can I okay this or should I shut it off

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beginning and I tell everybody twins right up I

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have a novel have another

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a second life he had only a second wife was a mother

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was it's a father the reason I have a reason I know that this book here came from this guy here in Japan

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now that my mom is here

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check it out

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yeah and so on and there you go find that the stuff my mom used

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women Kelly picture that we have

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another book and it's got honestly

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there's a picture like this actual picture

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it's very confused

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she says to me look at this picture they got no Connor on that pen then they got this picture and they look like the same person

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there's a picture of no one without

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picture of a burly man early man this guy looks like he's very well this

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is definitely is a picture for now wanna head and shoulders shot it's just like just because they have the same

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let's see married to Katherine brown

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well he married Matilda

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marriage certificate

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when she gives her mother's name

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I'm not sure if they were married and she really was her mother raised her so that's all we can go on. So she did

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also had a wife named Cecile that I know

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pieces all together to be growing the other side they and

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they were half brothers was born and he was his mother. They shared the same brother James Harris married Annie hooks up with this

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but he died eight months

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so here's this woman

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brother says we're not going to kids rolled up to three younger girls

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Samuel taken over by

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later on later

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read the book or something

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just talking to the girl is taking the photos at the museum yesterday and I said I don't understand second and then the grandmas so I told if you're interested in

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stories or anything I've got some papers that actually for his mom wrote about

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some of those and I made some copies

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it's still there. I'm going down the

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beautiful because we were there when we did mumsy ashes we put them in Isabella point where dad's ashes and Uncle lessons ashes are there as well and we've got one adult today on the axis and then we took a stab

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Yeah, so anyway, we took pictures at the house and it's it looks so tiny that picture is always amazed because they always didn't have a lot of money to spend to build what they needed you know? Anyway the house is still standing it's been a big house

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I called him yesterday and I said look at the freezer for lockdown

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in Washington state here now absolutely

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George Do you have any yeah

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he doesn't understand who we're going oh my god I'm the standard I heard somebody's over there who that was Sam somebody maybe Georgia no

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have you seen these or am I just going around this floor

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but I'm gonna take pictures. I'll take a picture of a few years my husband got me this and then actually it was made and they took

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comes to Toronto when

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we're here tomorrow afternoon. I think we're supposed to be very sporty so we definitely you're looking at a few plays

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you just asked me Yeah, yeah. And anytime you want to get gone at like

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830 or nine or whatever.

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Your buddy can go down to down to his house

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and hit the graveyard down there. Yeah. Can we get up to the whole square understanding? Again,

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there's nobody living welcome. Oh. As I said he's very interested. And he always comes he's got all the handling it but he had said that whatever history you remember he shared with you. Talk to his wife and she said just know okay

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there was a there was a picture here this is a painting my sister Linda did that she always painted

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freehand like she didn't do tracings she's always done in pictures I was gonna show I had a picture here it was a picture that she painted she painted sheets of paper with trees

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Oh I saw that

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yeah and I did

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I did see

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girl whatever whatever you like whatever

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Washington Association

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working on a project with you hear from our family she wants to know if I can have a conversation where are you got it all written down it's all written down so you aren't Kelly hertz right

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like to the dentist when he sent me the work or make the change and then he asked if it would be okay to put in the archive. So he said whatever necessary for the site. And then yeah, he came over to the house. Yeah, he's he's great. Yeah. He's from my mom's side of the family. The First Nation side as well. Yeah. He

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wrote the book The terror that I know. Yeah. Well, yeah, I have. I hadn't met your your debt. So yeah, I grew up on Saltspring. With the Hagen's in the long leaves. Families are related. Right.

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Dad's mother was very lovely Mary. Oh,

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yeah, I know. I know. I've seen a lot of pictures of your mother. Oh, yeah. Very lovely. Yes. Through the through the lonely side I'm I grew up with the Hagen's and the lumley's on Saltspring Yeah, Jackie Hagen Jackie Longley she's Yeah, she's sweet. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. No, the room number Yeah, it was I used to work in that restaurant. My mom and dad had a restaurant right across the road. Jackie works for us and then she ended up with the restaurant they were like in competition for her I worked for later to keep those gotta keep those train people and

Unknown Speaker 1:04:03
why didn't we stayed in her house now I was

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there in where that place was? Well now it's mostly just a tourist info boost. Is there the connect the building connected place building is gone which was the building that you guys stayed into that building? I didn't bring the picture

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where you

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rented and I think it is

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there that we can't

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remember. Oh, that's sort of studios. I think they have houses right beside each other. Oh yeah.

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Build this catalog Somebody is a criminal. He was a lawyer so he and his brother Edgar okay

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they're gonna seal around so I think Kathy can go buy properties and that's it Isabella point I think

Unknown Speaker 1:05:39
a long time that's really nice respectful the history that was there, right. Yeah. And the townies, and then the lovely house is just down the road from that I think we're gonna go to the lovely house as well. I want to go consults

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for me I had brought that book

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Thank you, Stan, for sharing this information with us. We really really appreciate it. It's where his house is now my dad built

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was built on the side of the hill and there was no

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one room we're living in the one room and it was right behind me still check that out. Check that out when you're there tomorrow. That came from that built that house came prior to keeping it in the family? Yeah. You guys remember from the Heritage

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Kevin, did you?

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Were lucky, lucky you were there to set them straight. Leave that house alone? Yeah,

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they did. They wrote a letter and

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that's great. I'm really glad you guys are gonna get down there.

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I wish my kids my son's away in a golf tournament.

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Kathy and she wants to take this because of any story. You know, sometimes when you're on the site of the stories. Your dad doesn't transcribe it later. This is wonderful. I'm sure it's very thorough. Which is sometimes when you're somewhere a little

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kid or we hear that sometimes. We should write it down so we don't forget about that.

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Thank you for having me here. Oh, I'm

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so glad you're here.