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Brian Smallshaw, 2018

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Date 2018
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Outline

    Archives management, grants, bylaws, and talks.
  • Bob Fish introduced new board members and discussed the Historical Society's endorsement of the Honors Pathways Project.
    Society's financial statements and budget.
  • Society discusses financial report, budget for upcoming year.
  • Speaker 9 provides a financial report, highlighting a profit of $5 and a revenue of $11,245.
  • The group discusses and approves a motion to revert a promotion and move the annual fee to $15.
    Historical society projects and recognition of members.
  • Speaker 10 discusses three projects: revamping the Ganges historical walking tour, creating a map for downtown, and updating the Ganges cemetery and community cemetery.
  • The Historical Society is seeking election officers and volunteers, and has added Brian Smallshaw as Web Coordinator to help with their website.
  • Historical society awards Bob and Jenny Rush with lifetime memberships for their dedication and service.
  • Brian Smallshaw introduces a project to make Harry's 20-year video collection available to the public.
    Digitizing old videos of Saltspring Island residents.
  • Historian and scientist collaborate to digitize old videos, showcasing Saltspring Island's rich history and characters.
    Saltspring Island oral histories.
  • David and Speaker 11 worked on making the videos suitable for the web, with Speaker 13 adding digital high-end quality.
  • Speaker 11 struggles with internet connection issues while demonstrating video excerpts.
    Salt Spring Island history and apple farming.
  • Margaret Monk shares stories about her family's history on Salt Spring Island, including her father's teaching and farming practices.
  • Demographers' father farmed 100 acres of land from King Road to Beaver Point Road, with records of every transaction dating back to 1920.
  • Unknown speaker discusses history of a boat in Ganges harbor with other speakers.
    Family history and memories.
  • Gordon Rocco's wife moved to Richmond with family, married at 19/20.
  • Mrs. Bridgman stayed in Victoria during the summer and married a Navy man, while her brother John lived in Eastern Canada.
    Saltspring Island history and culture.
  • Emily Start, a black schoolteacher, lived with her husband in Nanaimo before he left for the coal mines, leaving her to return to their original home.
  • Grandmother Hardy's storytelling and cooking skills helped her connect with the MBA workers on the plantation.
  • Memory of a father reciting poetry and singing at age five.
    Local history and stories in a small town.
  • Mary England, a storyteller and character, shared her apple cake recipe and stories about early pioneers with a reporter.
    Cider production and sale in the past.
  • Speaker 7 recounts their father's story about making cider and selling it at a constant price of 50 cents per gallon.
  • Speaker 7's father, Raffles Augustus Robert Party, was known for his cider and was once tested for its alcohol content, which was found to be 11% ethanol.
    Keywording videos for historical research.
  • Speaker 11 mentions a possible overemphasis on apples in the videos and requests help with keywording them for easier searchability.
  • Unknown Speaker suggests using a transcription program to find specific words in a video, with Speaker 8 expressing surprise at its accuracy.
  • Saltspring characters website launched with 13 characters, including still shots and searchable information.
    Historical society project with video presentation.
  • Historical society thanks three men for creating digital archive of memories.

Speaker 1 0:00
began the meeting by displaying a sign of joining lots of our archives office manager who passed away in January of this year. Bob explained who Julian was, what she had achieved for the archives that she will be greatly missed. And then it took two people to replace her correspondence a letter from the library with an invoice for $5,091 for 2018. Rent. We were notified that we were successful in receiving a YCW grant for a summer worker in the archives, as this was an Historical Society's 2018 AGM Bob read out the minutes of the previous AGM. Bob introduced the continuing and new members of the board and then went over certain bylaw points while the Historical Society constitutional bylaws scrolled on the screen. Ross and Michael move that the bylaws be accepted. Chris Marshall seconded the Morris motion. The vote was unanimous. The motion passed. The following were enacted to the board of directors for 2018 19 bar duneland. Chris Marshall bottle worker, Frank Newman, Roberta Stark, grace that vehicle, Bob fish 30 And Ross Collins and don't come duties will be assigned by the members at the first executive meeting. That financial balance sheet was put on this screen showing a total fund balance of $22,399.93, most of which will be allocated to Roberta start move to accept the financial statement. Tom Twinbee seconded motion passed. A copy of the financial statement is attached to these minutes. The Historical Society memberships can be renewed in September for the existing price of $15 a year moved by Roberta Stark Gail Newman seconded motion passed, Bob than explained about the Historical Society's new endorsement of the honors Pathways Project to have new historical base signage on several the pathways. Susan good was also thanked for all of her years on the executive. We hope she'll stay on with the archives. Bob asked for a motion to adjourn the Annual General Meeting. Motion to adjourn can lead Gail Newman seconded. Meeting adjourned at 220. Bob introduced the Salzburg native Bob rush for his talk on Ganges building history.

Unknown Speaker 2:32
Any errors or omissions? All right, well, somebody moved acceptance to the minutes. All in favor? Oh, perfect. How come? You didn't go?

Speaker 2 2:49
All right. Financial Report. Where's my financial expert here? Okay, I don't want to read that or not? Can you read that? Sort of murder mystery? No. Can you read it?

Speaker 2 3:33
To see you. Okay, I'll read it to you. That's our annual overview. And it's got a few things that shouldn't be mentioned. Looks like we have a lot of money. We do the president times. We have in the bank $20,000, which was donated to us to go to the hall here Central Hall for its renovation project, which is coming up. So we're holding that take their money until the central hall committee starts there protract and then the money will be transferred to them. So that means that it's included in here. Our general assets cash on hand looks like we have no cash on hand. In the bank, we have about 25,000 And I mentioned that 20 of it is is for the Central Health Committee, our liabilities here. And so our total fund balance $44,000 For this year, minus 20 minus some other funds which have come in ionic panda works fun, and also the some grant money from the psaltery foundation. So that's our overall view of the society next One press. This is our budget for the coming year. Our budget total you can see is about $11,240. Revenues at the top, the grants legacy program, which was our donated program each year charitable donations, general donations, which happens the door, and in other places country goes through, we get a few $100 from sales, that's our catalog each year membership 7500 $750, we have a motion for our membership fee, our expenses, our archives project, we'll talk about that in just a minute, Chris will give an overview of that week's wages. Flat program, we've started three blocking areas that don't have historical plaques on them for historical buildings and sites on the island. Some plaques were put on earlier and disappeared, such as the one meter point Hall and things like that. So we're redoing some of those places. We started that meeting space expenses down here, our rent, we budgeted $5,000 For our rent. As I mentioned earlier, it's 4400, I believe this year, so we will pick up a little bit of money, there are insurance $750, which is for this hall, and for young people. And so all of us, as our total expenses are $11,240. Our revenue is $11,245. So being a good fiscal society, we're a profit maker of $5. And if you have the $5 share certificate from the credit union, we actually are $10. So that's it. Thank you. This is our statement of revenues and expenses. I've done that it's as much of the same thing only in a different format is the year's expenses of what we actually spent in certain areas. And you can see it goes down from the top our revenues, what they actually came in, and then our expenses and what actually went up history magazine subscriptions in both revenues, and it's yeah, it's money in and money out. It's what we do our memberships people have the option of buying a magazine subscriptions, will they pay us whatever it is 25 bucks. So we bring it in, and then we send the 25 bucks back to the BC Historical Society. So it's actually a revenue source and an expenditure source at the same time. It just cancels itself out. There's not very much there's usually five or seven subscriptions within a year. And other comments about the financial statement. Roberta, do you want to move? Acceptance? Sure. Roberta, the treasurer will move acceptance of her statements. Secondly, we are all in favor, aye. But thank you. You're also going to move over a promotion reverted at our annual fee stay at $15. We move that this motor vertical move that anybody else want to second that? Right and he's getting his name and he's doing well. All in favor. Paid immediately. September for September until now. We'll be selecting it in September. Membership report. We ended up this year I think with 52 active members, six life members but I'll check that I don't know the exact number. Archives report brush do want to add a little comment while the archives.

Speaker 3 8:42
We have three major projects I guess going on this year we have some of them might be familiar they've been going on for a while this year. We're revamping the Ganges historical walking tour that will be finished. And it's going to be interesting because it's going to be done in conjunction with a map that's going to be going up downtown they'll show the route. So tourists will be able to look at the map it's going to be over by mullets, and it's going to be on the tourist info center. And you can look at the map and can have the guide in your hand or you'll be able to go online to the Saltspring archive site and follow them and we're finishing up with Brian's help Ryan's coming on to help us to do Ganges cemetery Ganges community cemetery are here behind us. So there'll be an updated site that that and and that thirdly, as always, we have the calendar that we do every year. So we appreciate your support in the calendar. And you have any favorite photos that you'd like to see in the calendar, you're welcome to send a suggestion as

Unknown Speaker 9:45
to who to send it to you can

Speaker 3 9:46
send it to info at Saltspring archives. And just keep in mind it used to be something that we photographed

Speaker 2 9:54
Okay, thanks, Chris. That's very good. I just like that also this time that we didn't have a design Esther in the archives when with the passing of Frank Newman, he was it was very unexpected, and left us in the lurch, but his memory lives on his website lives on. And we continue to improve it and add to it and keep it going. And so I just want it written in the minutes that I pay tribute to Frank today, as part of his legacy to the Historical Society. Okay, election officers, you have the list. Now, this is the list now you're welcome to nominate anybody in the crowd is not on that list. Or if you feel you'd like to volunteer to be a member of the Historical Society, put up your right hand. Everybody sitting on the right hand, okay. This will be in the group, then we will elect for this year. Their approval all the same as this year for next year, except we've added Brian Smallshaw, who is not exactly going to be a board of director but he's going to be our web website, organizer, web director, webmaster, whatever name we wish to use here. It's called Web coordinator, but he's going to help us out as best he can, in this time, and again, Illumina is going to join the board as a director. So that will be our director for this year. So if somebody like to move that these people be nominated as directors of the historical society, that you Ross, Ross move anybody else. Bob rush. Okay, all in favor. Thank you. Now, a little bit of other pleasure I have to do today is I have to, I announced a meeting earlier that we were going to appoint as part of our Constitution, life memberships in our society for Bob and Ginny rush.

Unknown Speaker 12:00
And Jenny and her Bob or Jenny Would you let them burn?

Speaker 2 12:33
Others are given just given to Bob and Jenny, honorary lifetime member of Salisbury Historical Society this honors we sold and re for recognition of the recipients many years of contribution service to our society. These people have been involved ever since they moved back to salt train. And even before in the historical society, Bob's are living historian. And you see, when we want to find something out, we asked him, he tells us, nobody else will remember whether it's right or wrong. Jenny has served on our executive as a tea lady many years ago and has also given presentations. Both of them have been very strong and supporting our various causes. So it's a great deal of pleasure that we recognize you today. So thank you very much for all you've done for.

Speaker 3 13:30
US before you sit down to contribute just the two of you with COVID. tilted towards glare like that. That's great. Do you need depth around us? I can see a little bit there we go right there. Thank you. Just one more there. Many people.

Speaker 2 14:12
Now, thank you very much. I really do appreciate the work they've done. Is there any new business? Anybody have some new business? Sure. All right, then if somebody's moving German. All right. Moving to Germany. The meeting is adjourned are now going to go into our program and introduce Brian Smallshaw, who can introduce the program and the gentlemen involved in putting this on this afternoon.

Speaker 4 14:45
Hi, my name is Brian Smallshaw. And together with you guys might as well come up here right now. Actually, at the instigation of David, I think we started a project to put up have videos that Harry has shot over the last 20 years at least. And we wanted to make those available to the public so that people could access this history that we have. And Harry has done amazing work over the years, collecting all of these videos, seeking out the people in the community who have these memories, getting his camera in front of them, and interviewing them and recording it all. And so these were treasures that really weren't available to anybody. But Harry, Harry, working with David and myself, we decided to put this up on a website so that people could access it, access it, both historians, researchers, and just the general public, anybody who wants to go in, David, maybe you can talk about the process a little bit.

Speaker 5 15:52
We got a historian, I'm a scientist. And I say, when it comes to remembering people's names, I can't do that. Unless you're a sea of starfish, I can remember your scientific name, but I apologize for not knowing all the people. But what happened was about two years ago, Harry came to me asking if I could digitize to the modern standard of digital video of a tape or two. And I said, Sure, I'll give it a try. My work had for over 40 years has been in developing media for teaching biology. So I had fun doing this. And Perry said, well, it got about, I think he said at that time of about 200 More videos, maybe we could do something with those. And so Carrie had been working on the Saltspring characters idea. And, you know, Harry probably is as, as most people on the show, he is a character himself. And I think one of the Saltspring characters videos eventually will be Terry, because he is quite amazing, both in his position as our apple guru on the island. And he really gets out a lot with that and doing amazing things. But also because his knowledge of people on the island and from the past and President is absolutely stunning. So, so I thought this was a great idea. And I was able to put together the application, we we, we all work together to make it make it so that this, these, these older tapes can be turned into digital imagery. It's the quality of the older stuff is, is not what it is now. So people have to be patient with that. But boy, is it amazing to see some of the people that have lived here and made Saltspring what it is. So thanks to Harry, we have now a new liquid legacy for that. And so I'll turn it back over to Brian. And

Speaker 4 18:00
sure, I can point out to that, that making these web web ready making these videos suitable to put up on the web was really, we relied on David's expertise. And I know that there was a lot of a lot of work that went into some of these to make them improve the quality and also just make them web ready. So the earliest tapes are our analog,

Speaker 6 18:24
digital, but it's digital high end, digital,

Speaker 4 18:28
it's an old format, and bringing this into a into a new format was was considerable work. And so we started work on this really about the early fall of last year. And the first couple of months of it was David mostly working with getting them into, into the into the correct format. And then after that it was passed to me, well, they were put up on the web. And then it was passed to me and I built a website around them. So this is the website. And it's

Speaker 6 19:01
one thing I think, yeah, I think there's roughly out of these 50 videos we have here. I think there's only five or six of the people still with us the rest of the people here on the other side that's worth noting.

Speaker 4 19:16
So it's I'm not sure exactly what our final count of of people was. So some of these, some of these individual shown here, there's more than one video and in some cases over a considerable period of time. So older ones and newer ones. And so the site as it stands now is is this Saltspring characters and it's you can access it at that URL, characters dot Saltspring archives.com. And so the landing page is just all of the people who were on this and so you can just scroll through here and find find somebody you're interested in hearing about and and click on it. So here's Duncan we did to go there, and we'll see how good our internet connection is in here. It was good a few minutes ago. Oh, no. What we fear Wow. We were still not loading

Unknown Speaker 20:33
if we all went down to the library, maybe

Unknown Speaker 20:35
we could get, we can go down to the library and just check your individual windows already pre

Speaker 4 20:44
loaded. Yeah, my windows. So I'll maybe I'll go to those. And I was going to show you five different excerpts out of individual videos. And I got them all queued up for you here. But I was just going to I was hoping to show you how to navigate the site, but it doesn't seem to want to load now and

Unknown Speaker 21:10
that wouldn't happen in real life when you're at home.

Speaker 4 21:12
Yeah. So this all works, but we've lost our internet connection, I think. And I'm not seeing the bar up on top is

Unknown Speaker 21:22
there. I mean, I only have one shot.

Unknown Speaker 21:25
Yeah, but we're not even seeing the always go back to your mind as we do it from here.

Unknown Speaker 21:40
To here. We don't need to go to the European. Yeah, but we're not seeing the US

Unknown Speaker 21:55
going to be abused. I don't have maybe Shaw has an issue on the island at the moment

Unknown Speaker 22:11
so just close out of this.

Unknown Speaker 22:13
Yeah, just minimize it

Unknown Speaker 22:20
when I died, okay.

Speaker 4 22:24
I have Okay. I'll go to some of the directly to some of the excerpts. So oh, they just cashed? I'm not sure. Hopefully they cashed and we'll see how far we get with this. But yeah, so yeah, we picked five five individuals hotspot, let me know. Okay. And so I'll show you a few minutes from about five, five different videos that are that are in here. And hopefully,

Speaker 6 22:52
we start to Sure. This is Margaret. Becky. She married her she married Harry that date and they lived on 32 acres of land that they got given when she got married and that's rated down there point which is the southeast point of Salt Spring. And that was part of the monk farm. Her father was JH monkfruit product to be repoint school in the 1920s. So he had three daughters. She was one of them. She said quite crotchety. She says what she thinks but she also loved poetry, which she got from her father, Mr. Monk, who was a teacher. So this is at their house on Elenor point, the phone on Weaver point. And I believe Harry is in the background here adding a comment as well if he was allowed

Unknown Speaker 23:52
to carry charge treats when we were growing up

Unknown Speaker 24:01
one of our jobs been picking apples and picking up apples which we sold for two since then Vancouver interest can

Unknown Speaker 24:21
make $1 If

Unknown Speaker 24:22
you want to believe it. I hear stories about can you make aquabox Pretty good apple bottle. Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker 24:34
that's as much as it was cached.

Unknown Speaker 24:37
Yeah, so I have that one in there.

Unknown Speaker 24:41
Okay, so maybe we should go to

Unknown Speaker 24:45
just go to the short version.

Unknown Speaker 24:47
Just go to the desktop

Speaker 6 25:00
For me, anyway have a 1920 spreadsheet from the farm Mr. Demographers had about 100 acres of land his farm was from King road beaver point road all the way down down their point and I was lucky enough to get the spreadsheet of every transaction that that has that happened on that farm every box how much you paid for so I've got that farm record for 1920 and that was her father and these are the apples

Speaker 4 25:34
so just in case the internet failed us we brought along a recorded version here so it's not live off the internet but it's the same same video

Unknown Speaker 25:54
and so how many years would have taken your

Speaker 6 25:56
father to put in all these 1000 applicants

Unknown Speaker 26:00
Oh years and years and years. I suppose a great man and we're putting in here to

Unknown Speaker 26:09
consider student led to knocking on a very charged treat.

Unknown Speaker 26:14
When we were growing up one of our jobs been picking apples and picking up apples which was sold for two cents. Vancouver interest can Duck Creek

Unknown Speaker 26:40
make $1 If you want to believe it. I hear stories about can you make aquabox Pretty good apple bottle? Yes.

Unknown Speaker 26:49
So one of the good days

Unknown Speaker 26:54
so they'd come in and pieces were they the boss's day off? And you nail them all together. And you're a pretty good nailer apparently when all the nailing contests I can

Unknown Speaker 27:08
make your own apple box. We don't

Unknown Speaker 27:10
use mostly cardboard or

Unknown Speaker 27:20
approximately 40 cents to me

Unknown Speaker 27:31
that that was probably had about 40 pounds editor. Yes. So you would you would have all the apples that you picked up at the farm here up in here at the Milk Farm. And where would you load them on to boats? Would you load them on a beaver? Beaver bunny

Unknown Speaker 27:48
we'll get an older horse Oh it did open DNC lectures which was in my teens? What offer

Unknown Speaker 28:14
long term sheets I don't know.

Unknown Speaker 28:19
No. Is it still in India so then your father would have you'd have all these apple boxes

Unknown Speaker 28:35
now art segments of okay.

Unknown Speaker 28:40
He does have Jeff Lacey has the answer is yes. The Nautilus.

Unknown Speaker 28:47
He has the vote. Oh the boat. They all came probably Leon Leon King.

Unknown Speaker 28:57
So Jeff wants to know what you can do with the Pope to help with dovetail with some of the history stuff going on here. I don't know. Just put it up there. How big a boat is it?

Unknown Speaker 29:09
You know, I don't really know it's on the hard right now or is it?

Unknown Speaker 29:14
It's in Ganges harbour I think you can talk quite keen for the hills and it's more than 100 years old. Anyway, I

Speaker 4 29:24
I also I also live in the same neighborhood as Harry and where Margaret and and Harry bath he lived and the one of my early memories in the neighborhood was pulling up to the mailbox. We all shared the same mailbox pulling up to the same mailbox where were we all got our mail and they would pull up and the windows would be down a couple of inches and smoke would be just for pouring out of the windows.

Speaker 6 29:52
It was actually her husband ended up with lung problems from the second secondhand smoke. But getting back to the boat I have Wouldn't account also have a trip that Mr. Monk took to deliver after delivery to Sydney and that included? The when he left where he stayed? How many apples he took over what he paid for when he was getting farther and then what he bought I think a pair of boots was something like $7 So that was quite amazing

Speaker 4 30:25
next one we have is Lotus Rocco a well known figure in our community.

Unknown Speaker 30:32
And that was obviously replacing you're coming in after the bridge admins were there. They've been there.

Unknown Speaker 30:37
They retain this was this place here.

Speaker 6 30:45
Load is moved to Saltspring with their family 40 corpsman henniker stepfather moved into Richmond Road area which was about 10 years old. And so until she married Gordon Rocco when she would have been about nine, let me see 19 or 20. She married Gordon, but the first 10 years and she lived down Richmond Road, went to the FBI report school and she's talking now about life down there living down in Richmond. In what now is Wakefield farm that was part of the trading farm and the Bridgman has bought it. And then quarterman Hennig bought it and now it's Wakefield farm downburst

Unknown Speaker 31:33
160 acres I'm not sure. Just something that I did last year. Okay. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 31:49
Okay, and so yeah, that makes sense that you came in Yeah, they were there at the same time as you and that's how you got to know they

Unknown Speaker 31:55
didn't live there all the time. Yeah, they just came up in the summertime mostly. Yeah. Yeah. They all had their houses in Victoria. But Mrs. Bridgman stayed she when she came up, possibly the first or July or so she stayed all summer

Unknown Speaker 32:27
thought it was very shortly after that, when went to England and listen married in England. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 32:45
Lance's mother, Jacque was in Eastern Canada and she married a Navy man the eastern end. So she only came in the summertime when he was over there.

Unknown Speaker 33:00
Okay. And her brother's name was John

Unknown Speaker 33:04
and Nancy his mother Johnson. Excellent. Job. Okay. Okay.

Unknown Speaker 33:24
Then was there any, any residents

Speaker 6 33:34
I probably have more video uploaded to one of my favorites and she was quite a private person, but for some reason she left me in. And every time she allowed me to video, I was so lucky. And this woman had what I considered the best mind of anybody I've ever met. I could see Lourdes, who was the postmaster down to zero point 1921. She says she takes prank class. She wouldn't even have to think about it. She is amazing. And she lives to be 99 to 99 outlived her two kids. And so

Unknown Speaker 34:12
they separated now isn't that strange back there the 18 man and wife

Speaker 6 34:20
Nadine. This was an app during Apple festival and one of the things we do here is to get Nadine to do a presentation twice a day at certain times up at the stark house on Forest Grove. And so this is where this is and she's talking to Apple festival guests. During the day about the history of her grandmother with Sylvia start one of the first black woman women on Saltspring drive in around the 60s

Unknown Speaker 34:53
was a type of man who wanted to go to different places, preempt the way and work on it, build the house and then move on. So she had to only send it to me in the night. And one of the stars became the first black schoolteacher in Nanaimo. And she was Emily start. And he lived there for many years. But she lived with him for eight years over there. And what was stayed here, they had built this house. And he decided he was going to Nanaimo. He wanted to get into the coal mines over there. So he left here and went, took all in his family. But she decided to come back here. To be well, she just had all of her job. So she could have been in her 40s, late 40s. We see a lot of the settlers. They left here because they had tolerated the Indians up to a degree. And they finally got so the Indians were murdering, which they murdered Robinson. And in his cabin, he had a little cabin, just Walker Bookworld. He was founded in his cabin, and another black settler named Leslie Giles was found dead in his cabin. So that in a way, it was a reason why that majority of blacks left the island, they were really afraid they just didn't want to accept that kind of freight every day of their lives. But my grandmother was Hardy, and she moved their way. She talked to them, she learned how to speak back, cluck, cluck type of language with them. And she does pretty well but she always kept it done on her cooking table because this house had flour sacks for Windows curtains, and the flour sacks. Always there was somebody opening up front and back while she was cooking. Usually it was an MBA, so she kept her Greek become shut down on the table. I don't she was only for 11 I don't know how she did that. But anyway, she would raise it up and that would scare them away. But anyway

Speaker 4 37:31
that's gonna be a great one. And next up we have Johnny Bennett. I believe.

Speaker 6 37:44
Johnny Bennett was one of the four Bennett kids that grew up on Salisbury Everly was one of the other ones too. That's his sister. And they were up on Dukes road right up to the top of Dukes road. They were actually born on Saltspring I believe they were one of the last families to have everyone born on Saltspring. So Johnny was a talker too. In fact, it is a Johnny Bennett bench down tap downstairs. Maybe you're the post office, but I'm not sure. Okay. And they started off to bullshit. Johnny loves our team storyteller. Anyway

Unknown Speaker 38:26
he changed a bunch of words not be suitable.

Unknown Speaker 38:34
Ladies, it's known as Luke. That's right.

Unknown Speaker 38:38
You can still hear my dad saying it's saying that the liberal vote he took out in the in the wire one day we were in

Unknown Speaker 38:46
Serbia. I remember that. And he was reciting that this reciting that. So he knew poet he he loved poetry

Unknown Speaker 38:55
too. And he was your he was on the shore by the campfire. Oh, and he got stuck on one of the lines on the voice came in from the water and the native name was Lou.

Unknown Speaker 39:06
By and who is who is prompting

Unknown Speaker 39:07
you don't know what he or someone else with somebody else's water

Unknown Speaker 39:12
also knew the poem. Interesting.

Unknown Speaker 39:21
And at the same time, I think we went over to Damascus on the old model T for one time. I know that that time and I cut it out here in the woods Wentworth and he got up on the back of the truck and he had you know, and he sang a song. When I die don't get barely it'll pick up my boobs alcohol plays a bottle of booze in my head and my feet and then I know it's my bones will keep and he sang that and everything will be taken out was five I think and I remember isn't

Unknown Speaker 40:02
that amazing that you were he was trapped that memory at age five to be trapped?

Unknown Speaker 40:07
I remember thinking back

Unknown Speaker 40:14
to what was that?

Unknown Speaker 40:16
We went to visit some friends out there and we call them bollocks when your query with your side above heels

Unknown Speaker 40:24
that will be the Africans goody

Unknown Speaker 40:27
goody Catherine Goodman read the Eagles name was young and we went to visit them in a car when they were leaving Goody

Unknown Speaker 40:40
they were to 25 and I remember that because cleaners day and I remember goodie

Unknown Speaker 40:48
so it's digital as well.

Unknown Speaker 40:51
So he was actually just a kid.

Speaker 6 40:55
Another incredible Johnny Bennett has an incredible memory and a good story from Jeff. Jeff Outerbridge used to run the barnacle if you remember the barnacle. Everyone saw it he published an article by an Humphries who's a neighbor of ours that might have had a few errors and Jeff knew immediately at nine o'clock the next day Johnny Ben is going to be at his door straight and joining

Unknown Speaker 41:22
Okay, now we have

Speaker 6 41:24
England, Mary, England lives at the barn on Bettis the barn at six out and venison sticks out because that was the end of the road in the old days. In fact, it was just a pathway wasn't even a road back then. But, you know, that's why it sticks out there. She was one of three children of Robert raffles Augustus Purdy, who was the first the first person to have this particular lender 600 bedded stroke. And he also married into the veredus family. So they were connected with the Bettis family, just on their own. Anyway, Mary was just an incredible storyteller and real character. And her voice always trailed off near the end of a statement. But I was lucky enough one day, Eric acas, who had the food reporter for the bank for The Times columnist was over here, just as a warm up for Apple festival. We're driving along Betis road, and I said, Eric, let's go in and see if Mary is around. And she was and we got to sit down with Mary. So he wrote an article Mary, he had Mary's apple cake recipe and some of the stories about the early pioneers, Robert raffles investors per so is blend England love my kitchen. This is Linda England. Love my kitchen.

Unknown Speaker 43:02
Keeper. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker 43:05
My dad always used to make the boards the decider. He made you don't really get to. Yes, yeah. Where would you do that? No. He had to. He had there was a building down here. Okay. And it was all made out of cardboard word. And like blocks of code that

Unknown Speaker 43:23
long? Let me see.

Unknown Speaker 43:27
Let me see. Okay, so then, so we had this where he called it The Cider House. Yes. And then he put the image, they decided put in these great big barrels. He had 40 gallon barrels and great big huge ones bigger than that. Then did he take a bit of heat? Take it take one of them and put some of this mother from some side of the heat already from some vinegar and get that turned to vinegar in any soul, the cider? And we need here for both 50 cents a gallon in those days.

Unknown Speaker 44:07
What do you sell that when people come here together wouldn't take it down to the market? No, no people, people

Unknown Speaker 44:12
would come and gate going over to a new place. People always came for it. See we have a constant sale. But then one time that some fellows got some of his cider, and they put some raisins and some yeast and different stuffing and sugar and got it all for many, many things. And then they drank it and they got drunk on it. They said where did you get this cider and they should permit the party. So then, so then, then then they came up here and tested the cider. And they found that then then they had passed a law that nothing has worked will not be allowed to be sold if it was over 8% And so in a test to his side it was 11% ethanol. So he said he was very No, I won't sell any more. That's the end of it. So he just just made it for their own use my mother and dad drank it all the time. But a fan was too bad. Yes. What was his first name, his name was raffles, raffles Augustus Robert party. That bill of sale when they came here, okay. That's the same stupid that came with it maybe on the baby speech. But

Speaker 4 45:36
there might be a slight overemphasis on apples in all of the some reason I don't know where that came from. So that's the last clip that we had. Did either of you guys want to add anything we it's, this is considered a work in progress. So we'd like to get more more videos up of Perry's and we'd also like to shoot some more, there's, there's ones that that could be, could be added to, to our collection. And I also have a request, we're what we want to do with each of the videos in here is we'd like to keyword them, so that researchers can can search through the site and find subjects of interest to them. And this involves people watching the videos, and, and making note of keywords like for instance cider here or at

Unknown Speaker 46:33
the eight minute mark. And then

Speaker 4 46:35
you note the time. So if she's talking about cider at the eight minute mark, you just say cider eight minutes. And it would be very helpful. If anybody would like to volunteer, we're looking for help. If you could do that you don't, you can do as many or as few as you as you choose. But if you could watch a video for us, and make note of the keywords, write them down on a piece of paper keywords and time and give them to us and then we will add it in there. And that will allow researchers and historians to search the site. And for instance, search cider and see all of the videos where that is mentioned and where that's talked about. And so they can, they can find what they're looking for a lot faster without having to watch all of the videos. So anybody want to help out, Brendan. You're we just signed you up, you're good.

Unknown Speaker 47:28
We also online, you can get that you can do a transcription. So I've taken a video of a guy speaking with a pretty heavy Japanese accent when he's speaking English. And it gives you the printout it takes like a minute. So you can get the printout and it's pretty accurate,

Unknown Speaker 47:46
which is surprising. I could be helpful now. Well, that could be really helpful. And then you just search through

Unknown Speaker 47:54
to find the words. Right. Right. Could be shortened.

Unknown Speaker 47:57
I tried that with a couple it didn't work.

Unknown Speaker 48:00
Why would you have a program, you know, what I want to talk to you about? Yeah,

Speaker 6 48:05
there's another part of this that we haven't even launched yet. Just still shots, still photographs. So I've got 13 157 pictures in my Saltspring character file, that he's going to be another credit, not video, just the still shot. And they're going to be searchable. So he type in cat dogs, boom, it'll pull up in photograph. And that will be added to the characters that'll be somewhere else depends on where he puts it.

Speaker 4 48:36
And actually, it also occurs to be too in addition to keywording if people can add information about each of these people, because we want to have a little bit of an intro a little bit of a biography on each of them. And I'm sure some of you know, know some of these people more than we do. So if you can add to any of them, that would be very helpful.

Speaker 6 48:55
Mary's sister used to play the sides to play the piano in this particular order on silent movie.

Unknown Speaker 49:09
Oh, I see. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. Well,

Unknown Speaker 49:17
I put that in Margaret. Matthew, I'll just bring it up. Now, just scroll up. No, I guess.

Speaker 4 49:29
Yeah, well, this is only the first part of it. But we've written up small intros to each of these people. But but if they could be much better, they could be much better and much longer. So any information that people have about these these individuals, any of the individuals on the site? That would be that'd be very helpful. Unfortunately, today, we we thought we had Internet access and we didn't and it's a good thing that we had a backup here, but this is all Yeah, it's back again. Maybe Yeah. But at any rate, it should work a lot better for you at home. I hope. So that that is the Saltspring characters website. Thank you.

Speaker 2 50:21
Well, I think that if nothing else came out in this afternoon, it's a lot of work. But the thing that Harry has been collecting these things for years and years and years, the wonderful historical memories he's collected, and allowing us to share them in this community. I think if you hadn't done that, none of us would exist. Thank you very much. As I was mentioned, this is just a start, but already been done so far, Brian, we

Speaker 4 50:54
have 50 videos, and 50 on your site videos in about 43 people, I think, okay, 1523.

Speaker 2 51:01
And they're hoping that in the fall, the fall was coming, eventually, they will have a full launch and probably have proper access to the web, probably be at the library or somewhere where they can guarantee that. And they'll be doing another presentation of the total website at that time. So on behalf of the historical society, and of course, the Saltspring Foundation, wish to thank you three gentlemen, for the hours of work you put in is certainly a project here was probably a lot bigger than you thought it was going to be. When you started a few little videos in here he had in his back closet, and a few pictures here and there. But it's a wonderful, wonderful project. That is something that will be part of the legacy of the historical society in the archives for the foreseeable future. Well, thank you very much. It'd be as long as the end of our readings for this year we will meet again in September 2 Wednesday of the month. See you all there. Thank you very much for coming. Enjoy the sunshine.

Speaker 4 52:16
Backup, we were totally worried about

Speaker 5 52:21
an hour early. To go wrong. This is part of what