Salt Spring Island Archives
| Accession Number | |||
| Date | 1979 | ||
| Media | digital recording | Audio | mp3 √ |
| duration | 48, 66, 33 min. |
'390A_Dave-Morgan_1979.mp3', '390B_Dave-Morgan_1979.mp3', '390C_Dave-Morgan_1979.mp3'
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17.02.2024
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Outline
Part One
Unknown Speaker 0:04
So that was Elizabeth Warren
Speaker 1 0:13
and then from John McCain, Henry Robert Edward Matilda, Ellen, an infant the day Archie, Arthur, Jack, Sophie and William Matilda was Mrs. Bings mother going into these notes
Speaker 1 0:34
so then we'll look at what led to this 1950s We had the bulldozer. Jackie Sasa, the person standing there was probably at me because he was hooking logs around there looking logs means you hook them up to the bulldozer. And he thought, Yes, that one. Okay, and he thought that the CAT scanner was very by the name of George Holland. And he thought the boots were Archie on the inside. Jackie's and a guy called Gordie Nichols. It's great. And anytime you see a boat, double enter fishbowl Janine, as Jackie hawthorns. All right. And then there's other photograph beer This is the one of the big house your day.
Unknown Speaker 2:01
Taking from the water. Yeah,
Speaker 1 2:03
Scott Scott the ways I don't know if that'll help.
Unknown Speaker 2:16
Now that's Elizabeth's corner.
Unknown Speaker 2:22
We can What about that one? That's just
Speaker 1 2:26
Well, that's those were ways that we're putting fingers up pitcher was taken in the 20s as a pitcher, the vikos and that's where great uncle George lived. Ellen Hawthorne live Mary Backlund Jackie Hawthorne, Archie and George built that. Just that's yeah, that's the one. That's the one. He didn't know who was right. That's uncle Richie.
Speaker 1 2:59
Logging you thought that was done over there was done in the 50s? Early 50s. You have.
Unknown Speaker 3:09
Yeah. I think so. I had that in the museum society.
Speaker 1 3:15
That was in the 20s. And that boat there is the Janine that was Jackie's boat with our tuna
Speaker 2 3:32
titled, maybe another picture of it, but we know that Jimmy is Jackie. Yeah.
Speaker 1 3:37
We can't see Janine on you can always see whoever I said it was look like Archie that was sitting in it. And it was or if you saw him on Jackie's booth do we have this picture with a fly?
Speaker 2 3:57
I'm not sure we didn't see on this one. But I have that one in the museum's
Speaker 1 4:03
Well, that's 1939 that's the King and Queen going through. That's Mary Backlund or harm. Lackey there. Jackie. So this was when I turned 39
Speaker 2 4:24
This is the same day. Probably going the other way. Here. Yeah, they're coming back. So when they were going out? Yeah, so that's
Speaker 1 4:33
the Jackie's in anyway so he right away he looked at those his mother always took photographs when something was happening but he remembered that photograph that was raising the flag because Jackie
Unknown Speaker 4:42
Mother was ever right. Yep.
Speaker 1 4:49
No. This year agathos was built here. Okay. boat was built by his great uncle Joe. Ah, and it was built for a fellow named Alec Mellish me li sh I guess. And it was built in the boathouse in our place. So and now the person here doing this breaking the bottle is Mary Lachlan. And that's great uncle George wow so that's what that's all
Unknown Speaker 5:25
about now can you give me what year that was?
Unknown Speaker 5:28
No it didn't. But you can figure she's a teenager looks like they're so then earlier she was born. But you know, I probably be in 30 Sometime I would think. Now here just sit you're here looking at this picture here.
Unknown Speaker 5:58
Oh, Albert, Albert
Speaker 1 5:59
author and Helen Jones. That's Jackie's father. And Mary's father. Ellen. Awesome. Now here you ever done any of those?
Speaker 1 6:25
Archie Joycean uncle Robert Jordison. He never heard that Sophie. Great Uncle George is right in behind there. This is Arthur and he is right there. Okay. And II was married to Ed and Uncle Jack was right there. No children. Jackie Hawthorne, Mary Hawthorne, Ellen Hawthorne. And Pelle. Got it all. Before you that was 1935 and that was when their grandmother died. The only person missing his thought was Uncle Bill
Speaker 1 7:20
and here of course Okay, Jackie was born in June 16 1920. Mary's born July 17 25. So she's fortunate that you make it 39 Maybe the 40s
Speaker 1 7:37
Yeah this one here that's right. This is red Howard. And Jackie. We didn't know the answer. This is Fisher here. Birdie head
Unknown Speaker 7:54
Hello girl in the white dress.
Unknown Speaker 7:58
This one here
Speaker 1 8:07
in the train, Scotty George's wife That's what he told me.
Unknown Speaker 8:16
Jackie's great grandfather.
Unknown Speaker 8:20
She was from culture. That doesn't make sense to me because Kitty was scavengers his wife must be mistaken. Matter of fact, my dad has married Cornish marrying John.
Speaker 1 8:44
No. So I think Jackie is wrong. Well, I'm assuming dad's right. But guys, Jack and he he was starting to do this. So I have
Unknown Speaker 8:56
any I have a ticket to a copy of
Speaker 1 9:02
seeing it to see how it fits in with that. Because I know my dad started taking down notes from people who a long time ago, before he died, he died in seven years. But you know he was doing this. He would have probably taken that from somebody other than Jackie this one here was Uncle Ed. Ever he doesn't have some of these he can't he's not sure but that's Tommy has other systems less cleaner? Yeah, no, this is the army. Oh, the galley. Yeah. So I don't know if you've
Speaker 3 9:46
got any of those. I think I have those in the museum's stay with all their names. No,
Speaker 2 9:51
I don't have all the names yet. I just I know it's in the collection here. We're just I call them the Home Guard oh
Unknown Speaker 10:08
here we go
Unknown Speaker 10:11
This one's not this one
Unknown Speaker 10:30
Yeah, okay soldiers
Speaker 1 10:33
Tomia they're the second fellow with a sort of tin hat this guy here is Nick cook this guy right here is Captain Fisher I think he is remain yeah and I think this was Arthur Lord that's my guess so I'm not sure that the devil yeah looks like Arthur Lord Jackie didn't tell me that that was my guess there's another guy in here punch rugs and heating season stay on the end
Unknown Speaker 11:11
all right this one here
Unknown Speaker 11:22
nobody saw that Jack and his auntie Hannahs
Unknown Speaker 11:30
Jack is talking no
Unknown Speaker 11:33
oh no Georgie stuff he's older and Jackie wants to just he was punking that punk his dad was Georgie
Unknown Speaker 11:54
you didn't know and this has taken he wasn't sure how to present Yeah, they were just don't know as to is your face
Unknown Speaker 12:06
in the seat of honor and there's Tony Carolyn scraping
Speaker 1 12:11
that's right that's Archie and Sinclair Sinclair
Unknown Speaker 12:31
Yeah, well our family knew them as well
Speaker 1 12:42
ya know, no, this is quite interesting there's a lady here you can't see which one it is is probably this one here is telling Georgeson
Unknown Speaker 12:56
over there for no apartment he says you think that's Uncle Jack
Speaker 1 13:03
and maybe Arthur Archie I guess if he blew them up you might be able to identify and he said that he recalls being told that that was Uncle Arthur or Jean Jacqueline and the kids that would be a long time
Unknown Speaker 13:21
and apparently this is don't count on me this was Tahfiz house
Unknown Speaker 13:27
I don't know that there could be
Unknown Speaker 13:31
some skin Australian there
Unknown Speaker 13:38
create a beautiful photograph and focus the
Unknown Speaker 13:55
Crosstrek reference
Unknown Speaker 14:01
this is according to Jackie the first document
Unknown Speaker 14:05
the first dock injury
Unknown Speaker 14:06
no it was the first yeah
Unknown Speaker 14:10
yeah that's what he said right there okay and he says for the steamers Chris King the sentence for was so
Speaker 2 14:23
that was a little boat shed on the end a little
Unknown Speaker 14:36
don't know
Unknown Speaker 14:42
Albert and hurt
Unknown Speaker 14:55
that's going to be before 1950 My grandfather brought all that lumber over to the host finish today there's Felix and Emma and Jack and him and their canoe there's their place on the island This is Alicia have picnics in those days sailor all dressed up here down the beach as my grandfather, my grandmother is still here. Noisy another Jackie
Speaker 1 15:43
I've just kept other stuff in here from years gone by all the different pictures of stuff. So that's all in that one. Okay, well,
Unknown Speaker 15:51
shall we shall we?
Speaker 2 16:00
So, okay, so that was that the ones I saw before we
Unknown Speaker 16:05
can hear this one. Yeah, we did.
Speaker 2 16:14
Okay, so we got up to sort of looking at all these Morgan house pictures last time. So let's start with this one here. This is Morgan's new house.
Unknown Speaker 16:25
Yeah. 1946 is when it was built.
Unknown Speaker 16:30
This is when it was built with the numbers from the
Speaker 1 16:34
wall from the White House. The big yellow stick over here. They call this the White House over on our property.
Unknown Speaker 16:42
Okay, so the White House isn't the big.
Speaker 1 16:45
The Big House is the one in Georgian Bay, where the ways were in that little were Margaret differences places they called up vehicles. As far as was called the White House, you know, at around 43 After 46 Because it's built so it may have been my grandmother your grandfather took the picture? I don't know.
Unknown Speaker 17:32
Morgans, which
Speaker 1 17:34
was my grandfather over there? Yeah, my grandmother, right there. No phone. No, no, I think that was
Speaker 1 17:49
that was dinner. plate on. I think it was placed on Easter. So what was your father's name? Is Cheryl or my father? Nigel, your grandfather? My grandfather, Kathleen. And
Speaker 1 18:12
no idea probably in the late 40s 4647 40, somewhere around there.
Unknown Speaker 18:24
Down in Georgia.
Unknown Speaker 18:25
It's off the rocks.
Unknown Speaker 18:43
Yeah, I think it is. Yeah, I think it is. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 18:51
So back then. This was pseudo.
Speaker 1 18:55
Yeah, well, they got it mixed up. We've gotten mixed up now. Well, it's interesting because my dad I was called this month. And I remember arguing with the time that it was Mark Galliano, he says it's not sumach guys behind. So that's correct. But on the map to those that I've ever seen, and I'll show this as Margo,
Unknown Speaker 19:18
apparently up until about 1950s.
Speaker 1 19:23
All of a sudden, there was news to me see, but of course, I'm gonna be five years old. Right. So all the maps I saw when I was arguing with my father would be after that.
Speaker 2 19:35
You're an old timer. If you call that. Okay, so what about Nick cook food that
Speaker 1 19:47
is Archie, Archie. Yeah, well, those were their brothers. Obviously Nick and John Cook and they lived up towards the north end. I didn't mix up. Nick cook. I think lives were theorize Joe. Uncle Cliff were just the road just south of where Fred Stevens places I forget the name of that road into there Anderson is the one that road used to be the road went to the cable be original cable be not the nurse cable
Unknown Speaker 20:23
oh no going away
Unknown Speaker 20:24
No no no no it's further up than that. I think
Unknown Speaker 20:31
so this is like 60s Maybe
Unknown Speaker 20:42
I'm not sure
Unknown Speaker 20:45
so Nick and John and Archie
Speaker 2 20:55
it's funny I never I never met my chief but I always hear about Uncle Archie
Unknown Speaker 21:16
free the
Unknown Speaker 21:18
behind it looking down towards the past
Speaker 1 21:21
you know the barn our barn is now right there almost down in the 60s 6262 Yeah I don't know
Unknown Speaker 21:42
they just have sheep
Speaker 1 21:46
so I remember my grandfather had cows and stuff at the other place they don't remove any cows being done on our present place anything about that nothing just the picture that I have
Unknown Speaker 22:15
is probably steaming into George's and basil
Unknown Speaker 22:22
picnic on the beach
Speaker 1 22:26
I'm sure my grandparents are there but if you blow it up identify somebody but I can't tell from that
Speaker 1 22:40
oh my gosh I can't tell it all sellin it looks a bit like my grandfather but no I don't have anybody else's
Unknown Speaker 22:58
no
Unknown Speaker 23:00
no Donald bigger forehead it used to be I don't mean heavy but big boned and he said film is too narrow and too narrow.
Unknown Speaker 23:17
Okay, so Morgan
Speaker 1 23:22
Yeah, I would expect in other pictures of my grandparents and they're on the beach with dressed in their Sunday Go To Meeting and table all the victims like that. It's great difference.
Speaker 2 23:39
3040 new
Speaker 1 24:00
what is my agency my grandfather told me that's my grandfather. My grandmother that's my aunt down there. Nope. Yep, yes. I just don't know anybody else's. And Archie didn't either when I showed it to
Speaker 1 24:42
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Archie helped put those up. Oh really? There Jackie, Archie. According to Jackie said he put them up on the lifted board by my board and fit them in I
Unknown Speaker 25:05
wouldn't be able to do that today so this is an attorney who took this picture
Unknown Speaker 25:15
there was similar billboards put up in the early 60s And they were advertising the suspension bridge and capital I know they were cut down though. They never stayed up very long
Unknown Speaker 25:47
so the skiff and the kicker
Speaker 1 25:48
Well that's our boat. That's that's it that's the Turner built drop keel sailboat. Still got it got the master. There's the master. And it had Achillea dropped in. Medan they sell their own circumnavigate a gallon when that took us a day. Why during the night we kept up at night because it's pretty slow as you can see. Still by a fella called Turner rufinus boatbuilder Vancouver to turn Clintonville
Unknown Speaker 26:31
I really don't know you It almost looks like it's on that little island in willerby but it can't be because of that there.
Unknown Speaker 26:44
You know what it looks like to
Speaker 2 26:47
think silence. You go out of Montague. There's Charles out here. And then Sphinx is Parker and then that'd be Saltspring over there then there's that little island there and then that's why that
Unknown Speaker 27:04
could be a little Yeah, I just don't know
Unknown Speaker 27:09
in these waters Yeah,
Speaker 1 27:11
that makes more sense than mine because it would you wouldn't be an island he from winters I wouldn't think no.
Unknown Speaker 27:20
It looks a lot like that.
Speaker 1 27:22
Could be and it would be sometime in the in the 50s is an outboard engine and that looks to me like it was a bad idea because it's a British Seagull up some idea that's a pretty SIBO so that would be probably in the late 50s but could very easily
Unknown Speaker 28:02
okay
Speaker 2 28:04
soldiers or do you know anything about the soldiers as the Home Guard? Yeah
Speaker 1 28:10
was comprised of Galliano in May now and I think
Unknown Speaker 28:20
for my time
Unknown Speaker 28:23
Okay, the next one is going to seem soldiers
Speaker 2 28:32
Okay, the next one is Stanley Page
Unknown Speaker 28:37
Yeah, don't know what that was about. How we'll have no idea
Unknown Speaker 28:50
nothing
Unknown Speaker 29:01
steamer from the blood. Yeah,
Speaker 1 29:03
and I just don't know much about that. It's just a picture that we have
Unknown Speaker 29:07
the Donald new photograph could be kind of like one of these could be
Speaker 2 29:28
here's a steamship of studies. That's definitely another I think that's the Princess Mary.
Unknown Speaker 29:39
Yeah, looks a bit like
Unknown Speaker 29:42
off cross reference that with new photographs. Different people have the same pictures in their collections.
Speaker 1 29:51
Well, you just sort of keep things for posterity.
Unknown Speaker 29:59
You realize I'm formative
Speaker 1 30:01
Oh sure. That's right. I don't know where that is no idea. Neither does Jackie is Jackie Abba. No No he doesn't know where that is
Speaker 1 30:28
yeah yeah, that's a famous quote read the book of stories. Yeah, it was and it can be going on for I guess a refit of some sort I think sky Georgia send me the sales and let me see
Unknown Speaker 30:56
the bottom of it is the dugout canoe
Speaker 1 31:08
down here who did what? Leave it to my lousy memory? Thank you so much. must have left it to my memory but anyway Jack Georgeson I think I may be entered one of them did the SPAR one of the the sales and one of them didn't put bigger house on it or something that was taken at Shaw's lending mirror the other one we saw was shells landing it was looking last time I think this was here
Speaker 2 31:48
Oh that was a child's learning we didn't know where that shows learning so the one before it called it Bristol Bay or something right.
Unknown Speaker 32:01
And he thinks it was festival day.
Speaker 2 32:02
So this Bristol Bay boat and Bristol Bay tea that's actually Charles landing
Unknown Speaker 32:08
he thinks that might have been Scotty gerson's
Speaker 1 32:28
Oh there you go great uncle George built a deck in the mouse. Scotty me the sales for the telecom
Unknown Speaker 32:45
next one says Tilikum at anchor
Unknown Speaker 33:00
telecomm sailing
Unknown Speaker 33:10
I know
Unknown Speaker 33:29
Do you know when it was at the
Unknown Speaker 33:32
turn of the century sometime? I don't know when
Unknown Speaker 33:46
okay. Hey, Tommy.
Speaker 1 33:49
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, remember him? What do you remember? That
Unknown Speaker 33:53
was a neat guy.
Unknown Speaker 33:55
Oh, cowboy.
Unknown Speaker 33:56
That's right cowboy. Isn't that he was a very friendly person. Nice man. I was a young boy but remember
Speaker 2 34:12
in the 70s Oh, yes. seedpods right, which
Speaker 1 34:15
and he lived up? He lived up what? Bluff road
Unknown Speaker 34:21
to walk with his goats up there. With Tommy, old cowboy story. Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 34:26
I gave him the caribou
Speaker 2 34:31
must be at his house which was up on Bluff road with no idea.
Unknown Speaker 34:53
Archie and Irving Sinclair Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 34:55
I don't know who took the picture. But Archie is obviously a young man. And
Unknown Speaker 35:02
when you see the picture that we call Archie in the base last year I think it might be on the same day
Unknown Speaker 35:24
in the car
Speaker 1 35:53
Oh, isn't that nice? I actually have seen it and I know who that was to. Oh, I forgotten Oh I was told who was I wonder she was with Irving Sinclair I wonder I don't know what I was told who was
Speaker 2 36:12
wondering he looks just he looks quite happy to be the chauffeur
Speaker 1 36:21
Yeah, I'm sure if I had a copy of that Jackie. Jackie would probably know
Unknown Speaker 36:25
okay, I haven't been copy that
Unknown Speaker 36:32
cuz that to me looks like that was two days.
Speaker 1 36:36
In close apparently. Tip Sinclair. Painted Archie. Yeah, it's apparently I think it's in the state somewhere. Jackie says spectacular painting of Archie. Was this one was this I think he left in the late 50s Maybe before
Speaker 2 37:07
he was here. I know. He was actually a lot when the rocks and have a lodge that would come
Unknown Speaker 37:18
Yeah, but he used to have a place somewhere. Right. Oh no. Chi Minh between gossip and Kellyanne? Yeah, I was there somewhere in the house here. I remember.
Speaker 1 37:45
You know, he's related to the wind. Okay, I think it's still with me today. No, no, no, no, they're, well, they're the ones that are in with us today. In Murchison folder. Oh, yeah. Okay, well. Yep, that's right. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's right. That's this Mary Jane. And I think so. The twins I think are Paulson and the islands are Wilsons, but their winter mutes air on their father bought the place.
Unknown Speaker 38:26
And I think he's an uncle or something. I gave them a picture that actually because I knew that they were really they're really happy.
Speaker 1 39:10
Okay, this is probably gonna be, right. Yeah, that's right. 1939 Mary Backlund and Jackie Hart, and that's the queen and king going through active paths according to the 1939. Raising the Flag, raising the flag, and that's probably up place. It's called tollens. But it was called Captain Anderson's. And he was noted for raising the flags. Whenever warships came through, he would always raise the flag. And so that that's what it looks like. It's
Unknown Speaker 39:43
taken from right and Jackie says
Speaker 2 40:04
Okay wedding oh yeah this is I'm gonna talk for this is Albert Hall
Unknown Speaker 40:15
English and this is done in Georgia Sunday
Speaker 1 40:19
I don't know where it is I don't think so somehow I think it's more like over where the big house was
Unknown Speaker 40:39
20 Sometime I guess
Unknown Speaker 40:56
yeah
Speaker 1 41:01
yeah Jackie thinks that this was probably Parker island because he says he remembers his uncle saying that we built it have a beach they build a place to drag the wheels up when they were waiting for the southern I think the southern tip of the southern tip but one of the beaches on Park in southern beaches and parked
Speaker 2 41:26
on the big part of Parker cone there where they now have the hydro I wonder
Unknown Speaker 41:34
I don't know that's what Jackie
Unknown Speaker 41:45
wow did you say when
Speaker 1 41:48
I was a kid he doesn't remember just remembers his uncle pocket No, I think it's probably bleen well but I'm not sure
Unknown Speaker 42:06
are they a creature
Unknown Speaker 42:29
the White House
Unknown Speaker 42:35
just no assaults but that's done.
Speaker 2 42:39
So we don't know when but we do know that when did the White House come down?
Speaker 1 42:46
Probably 4045
Speaker 2 42:50
So when your your parents bought the property, grandparents bought property and then they took down the house and built their cabin.
Speaker 1 43:00
That was just sort of going to be you know, sort of counting when they built the big house service place up the farm and move into that build a big house and know we got all the lumber over there. And that would be good summer 49 And then I think he says summer 49 Summer 50 and he died in January. And but all the lumber was there ready to be built and of course you can see where it's all as created the big hole it's in there. That was that was all excavated for that and then there had been a garage built a double garage there. The fire department burns that down for practicing with my permission
Unknown Speaker 44:02
the White House 46
Unknown Speaker 44:05
more important six.
Unknown Speaker 44:06
Oh yeah. Earlier
Speaker 1 44:15
that's in the early early 20s Maybe teams
Unknown Speaker 44:28
a bunch of people sitting down in front of it wasn't
Unknown Speaker 44:39
she there in the corner. They're gonna blow that up
Unknown Speaker 44:48
or am I just seeing things
Unknown Speaker 44:55
in the bushes Okay.
Unknown Speaker 45:07
The White House from the hill
Speaker 1 45:12
that's probably in the 30s 30s or early 40s
Speaker 2 45:26
Do you think your grandfather could take pictures about the property
Unknown Speaker 45:30
could have yeah my
Unknown Speaker 45:31
grandfather my grandmother
Speaker 1 45:41
how's the ship going through tech has been taken by Ellen Hawthorne to this one yeah she did apparently according to Jackie she's select but she always took it when there was something happening like some boat was going through that was an important feature
Speaker 2 46:13
to some interesting in this one there are no a lot of bushes in front end earlier
Unknown Speaker 46:45
Yeah, that's right
Unknown Speaker 46:47
so that's it that's all the pictures I have
Unknown Speaker 46:51
this one here let's take a snow guy and I don't think
Unknown Speaker 46:56
I remember we looked at that
Speaker 1 46:59
and showed it to Jackie but you see what's interesting in here and he didn't remember that she was like really trying obviously comes it's fairly steep so he had no idea he didn't have any idea whose voters were
Speaker 1 47:22
once a cardboard and all of the other one is the other one looks like it might be a pleasure was that a lot of Kevin after this one here has a workspace but then when there isn't that much workspace doesn't have any polls you know there's no folder for the godliest to put them in the hall. But somewhere I guess he doesn't do
Unknown Speaker 47:51
anything else will have any story you want to tell her?
Speaker 1 47:53
I can't think of anything right now. I got lots of stuff hurry, but you can't. Seventh think about the farewell. Thanks. You're welcome.
Part Two
Unknown Speaker 0:00
here maybe that's Archie, Archie. There's no question about as much value
Unknown Speaker 0:09
and this was you know what visitation
Speaker 1 0:17
I don't I think it's Archie's birthday and probably the Venus birthday you know, one of your pictures is not really one of mine. It's one that Jackie Hawthorne gave to me. Jackie Hawthorne had a bunch of pictures and he gave them to me so that we could protect them make sure that they went into the appropriate
Speaker 1 0:53
what I can do with this is Jackie author still comes and has coffee with me in town. Oh, boy. Yeah. And frequently, like once or twice, every second month or so. So if there's something in there, I'll take them and he'll be able to identify, we can't maybe not do it in time for the Fiesta. But you can get because you'll know that
Speaker 2 1:16
this is Archie's bill, this is this like maybe the back of a photograph?
Speaker 1 1:25
I can't read it. So I can't tell. Oh, grinding bow. Oh, yes, I know what that's about. I think that was my grandfather who repairing an engine for Archie. Who was your grandfather, Cyril Morgan. And he came over here. I don't know exactly what time but sometime before 1913 When my dad was born here. So what seems to me that that was explained to me by Jackie Hawthorne as being a bill for some grinding of some valves for an engine and my grandfather who was a Marine pilot also was very handy with seasoned machinist and stuff like that so that's what that looks like to me.
Unknown Speaker 2:16
You know about what year that was
Speaker 1 2:22
the bottom there says 1929 or 27 Jimmy
Unknown Speaker 2:36
Do you know who may know something about that as well? Is
Unknown Speaker 2:45
okay
Unknown Speaker 2:48
so this one says bellhouse 25
Speaker 1 2:59
I don't know anything about that as a loved one we can see that but I don't know anything when it occurred and when it's
Unknown Speaker 3:11
40 no people in my time
Unknown Speaker 3:14
okay
Speaker 1 3:18
if you go back to this elephant some of the people that I may read sometimes you can recognize the faces of people zoom right into that maybe right there
Speaker 1 3:32
it looks like my hand it looks like my looks like my grandmother in the morgue and she was born here on the island as a pitcher down in there is a big deal. Oh yeah. That one right there and right behind yours magical day. No other one right there
Speaker 1 4:03
let's focus on that but that looks just like the facial features there. It looks like
Speaker 1 4:19
and it was just looks like my grandfather does not cry enough to make the faces. So I can't tell for sure. But you know isn't that interesting? I've never seen that. You know, I think that was one of the pictures that I have. But I've never been able to zoom enough to see that without you know, in the smaller part. I couldn't tell. But I never looked like them.
Speaker 2 4:50
It this could be your and then you're gonna castling me And then what about what year do you think that would be?
Speaker 1 5:25
38 9040 I would think somewhere around there just guessing because I think my aunt was selling the honor to think she left the island till after more Boy Does that ever look like them and you know in terms of the fact that came from me I must have picked it up in some other family for any idea
Unknown Speaker 6:08
who that is that's our that's our photograph
Speaker 1 6:17
I still have it I've got the pin and everything because it's part of the curio collection that we have
Unknown Speaker 6:25
so this is actually a pin
Unknown Speaker 6:28
that's in there I have the actual pin oh
Speaker 1 6:36
I can check with my mother about that she may know she may know her better
Unknown Speaker 7:02
here is a boy and dog
Speaker 1 7:10
no idea and I don't know where that is. I can't tell it so dark
Unknown Speaker 7:19
was really on the backside of that
Speaker 2 7:21
I don't know this is just all right
Unknown Speaker 7:31
Robins can
Unknown Speaker 7:37
tell us up a bit yeah okay
Unknown Speaker 7:47
no I don't know who that is
Unknown Speaker 7:55
Bristol Bay
Unknown Speaker 8:10
looks to me like it might be wailers day but
Unknown Speaker 8:18
I'm not sure excuse me I'm not so sure that that's a Bristol Bay vote either
Speaker 1 8:38
Can you picture the person there definitely
Speaker 1 9:01
is a pitcher longer than that see some part of the shoreline
Unknown Speaker 9:05
no
Unknown Speaker 9:07
okay
Speaker 1 9:13
oh no, there's no price really and Jason de where the water comes
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from Bristol Bay to live more short.
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didn't know
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that I can ask
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Edward isn't that is
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that I don't think it is
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but I can find that
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I can also ask that young cat
Speaker 1 11:24
talk to her about the Georgia Tech Show Yeah. Yeah. I'm not so sure I remember that when some of these routes Joan was asking me about some of these things if I knew who they were, but I know who wouldn't it was Archie will know for sure. And Archie Gerson another Jimmy's Jackie Hawthorne for sure you mean any still around 72 and healing for sure
Speaker 1 12:08
lot of courses Georgian Bay and that's just over password McDonald's is in other words the Georgia students would be down in here and there used to be that float over there why was a float not a doc that's right but it was it wasn't a dock it was an on pilings. The dock you saw earlier was over here on pilings. I want that photograph I don't know if you have that or not. But there's a lot of that one with pilings over here which was a doc which yield Siemens I think used to come as toll I mean that was around at that time
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before the big house was built
Speaker 1 12:55
which been house i don't know i don't think so. But I don't I don't know for sure because the Germans are over here this is that problem further comes up like this in a row.
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You have any sense of what year was
Speaker 1 13:10
a bulldozer there? So it's probably in the 50s late 40s early 50s It's my guess Can you move that up
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just the way he carries himself it looks like a movie of John John Jim
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gets back with a cat
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well I think he was a CAT scan
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to just that same Georgia system
Speaker 1 14:01
and look like it looks too steep it looks too steep there's nothing in the background identify itself but it looks too steep because it could be a little tight but it was it seems to me it was a much broader float. And see how narrow and long that is? There's was it was much it might I mean it was a much
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yeah
Speaker 1 14:55
I think it was something that we had and that I have a car So my grandmother or somebody probably kept it but I think I have them
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that Aleister Ross is dying to get
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some security now
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bit Cornish
Speaker 1 15:23
no I don't know the name but I know it's one of George's as wives I think
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areas very recognizable for that think that's probably one of the lies
Unknown Speaker 15:42
I think so you say it was Cornish in the I don't know who's identified as a car as
Speaker 2 15:57
I'm assuming that so he may have had someone helping him determine another one
Speaker 1 16:14
because that's Jackie Lachlan. Okay was that properly? Okay that's Jackie Hawthorne looks like Mrs. Stella bras so
Speaker 1 16:32
and she became Mrs. telegraphs. Okay. And that's Jackie's mother. I'm sure that that's definitely Jackie Hoffman.
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Okay, do you think that's not Elizabeth cornice but
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I think those own popcorn I do
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who is Elizabeth Cornish? I don't think so. That I'm going to put that there but that almost looks like Jackie and Ellen. Hop behind their old house. In Georgian Bay, there's a house where were murdered Griffis knows that it was further back. And then above them was a place that was on but I'm not sure I can't remember where this GA February L is deliver us. Helen Hosmer moved there. And Stella grass used to live on
Speaker 1 17:44
Portlock point is free will use to come and visit and then measure that Mary they live and so and then you see Jackie owned a bunch of land up in the back there as well. But I'm almost sure that this is celebrate and I'll double check this because your mind plays tricks on you
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English Bay is 30
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good for me English Bay
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I don't know how that was determined.
Speaker 1 18:45
Whereas English Bay, I mean, Vancouver fall it could be I don't know. Why would it be in this collection?
Speaker 2 18:55
Maybe well, you know what it could be it's just a Georgia sailed into English Bay all the time. Or they would sail into English day and then maybe they would be in you know, thrillers near out there with a landscaper just spent time because you can ask from the boat
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I'm glad we have that in the question.
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What I say recognize the most in the eyes.
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Okay, here's Georgeson bay
Speaker 1 20:20
that's your Georgia isn't home there that's where that we're looking at those bulldozers beyond that back there now that's of course before my time before my time
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even a sense of when it might have been
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20s I think mid to late 20s
Speaker 1 20:46
If you noticed there wasn't either a float or darkness it's pretty early
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2530
Speaker 2 21:08
That looks like before it was clear
Speaker 1 21:12
it was clear that there was still lots the maple trees weren't just up as high Okay, They've really grown as as anyone can see no but this is all clear through here as a barn up there the houses on the opposite side of where it is now
Unknown Speaker 21:46
ah, this is over farmer Griffin. Yeah,
Speaker 1 21:48
that's the same, same same sort of photograph just from a different angle. Actually, is it from the Griffis? No, I guess it is to from where the Griffis house is now but not where the Georgian house was or it could be a little further back actually more like we're missing as far as places
Unknown Speaker 22:25
I think it's my grandfather no it's not my grandfather I think that fellow is
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please don't use enough sample
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things in the aisles. He is he actually filled her fireplace and signed it and I think his father died over here but what I would say that's about 1945 They are here somewhere on 1845 4546 be in there
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okay
Speaker 1 23:40
let's first taken on the rocks in front of our place that was probably my grandfather's boat and the looks of things we still have that load actually drop kill cell Tourville classic
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have are
Speaker 1 24:13
interesting on that bank on another picture, not a house up there.
Unknown Speaker 24:17
Yeah, and it's pretty
Unknown Speaker 24:20
given the fact that there's no five houses there. So it's just one it's just another shot.
Speaker 1 24:48
Two it's interesting is I've put you've taken on the front of the fire hose. And I'm sure it was my my grandfather my grandmother until You blew it up on the screen I couldn't identify that but that's that's active tasks again you know it's hard to tell where that picture is taken from us it's got juries and day and I think I have the original that fixtures and old or pitcher and if you look closely you'll see that dark I talked about coming out there right and the jury says should be right in here with me and this looks like it's almost over we're what we call sandy beaches almost look so it's a shot taken from there as you know the picture long you'll see this is where the Georgia suns places here and then to see that document follow me it's hard to say isn't it
Speaker 1 25:54
but there's the old Georgia and White House which is on our place and she does not have the vehicles up here now. So they'll give you an idea. I think this this was taken I think for the 1897 or something like that. I can't see it here but I think on the picture this is one of ours and I think on the picture, I can look at it again I've got it but I think it's just about at 97 But what's interesting here is remember when you're looking at those other pictures you'd see here the big the maples had grown up considerably by then and over here and over there and just didn't look as prominent as it does now because the trees I don't think there's a barn up here either at that time and been built there really early and I think the both house had been built there
Speaker 1 26:46
looks like yeah it looks like it but I can't tell you the sun's blunting the afternoon
Unknown Speaker 27:26
this isn't so your house No No
Unknown Speaker 27:27
No No No sir the original house and with no our cottage is made from the wish
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Do you know when they build
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your brother's hand me down from
Speaker 1 28:10
you have an article in newspaper about White House that movie give me some idea when it was built
Unknown Speaker 28:21
that's I have that full the original photograph
Speaker 2 28:27
yeah it's pretty neat. So is this the house that Scotty built for his family?
Speaker 1 28:34
I believe so. It was also the house that was used by boats to get there and they came around lined up with that to go through the past and they go down so far and then they turn out but they would aim for that way house he says that I was told
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before before
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a glass of water with a
Speaker 2 29:21
reverse such as gonna be the flip the flip side of it. And then we have it again. I'll just move on
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Yeah. So that's just it. Yeah, and I don't know what year that was taken. But you can see
Speaker 1 29:48
the barn is here now. That sort of as a sheep pen was there. Yeah. And this house knows over here, away from it. And you can see that draw through there. That's the creek that comes down through. So we had another outbuilding over there. But that was never there in my time. This was there's two there's three big maple trees. This number was out there. Did you ever see that? So there's no three maple trees here
Speaker 1 30:26
and of course his barn blew down in hurricane freedom. She and I have now replaced the virus, you know that by myself? by fluke built at the same places at
Unknown Speaker 30:41
the freedom. Isn't that recent?
Speaker 1 30:43
Yeah, it would be about 1962 I think so we want to have one hurricane in my time. And I think that was it. I'm not sure if it was 62 or 63. That
Speaker 2 30:56
became a later one. This is one that my parents first got here in 1671 There was one
Speaker 1 31:05
other hurricane maybe a big blow this is this was a legitimate hurricane. It knocked down for trees. We had massive, like 150 foot surgeries and replace come down like it blew them over. No, it was a real I think it was the first hurricane that was recorded as the only one.
Speaker 2 31:26
We have another picture of the news collection of parkways huge oak trees falling a little bit because he said it was a windstorm that maybe
Speaker 1 31:41
depends what year it was but there was it was called hurricane freedom. And I mean, we couldn't get into our property and then bacup these histories and the remnants of that are still there in other words, just a couple of old stumps that are rotting by the side. And there's we've got that big trees it still urges to canes but other trees growing out of it now. But that was definitely hurricane Freda was the only hurricane that I ever know. So in my time it's the only hurricane we've had lots of big blows like we had a lot of four years ago it has been blowing heads and trees blowing down in my property at the back but it was not like Earth anyone who has recorded enabled the hurricane or said anyone the hurricane No
Speaker 2 32:29
I just I only heard about the big winds you know and flew down oh no
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it was it was it was named hurricane freedom
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just let me know
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okay Georgia Gosh all I can get everyone to their names. I don't know if you've got to get everyone to their names for you. I think that's pretty head yeah, right there. And that looks like this is Georgeson and that looks like Archie
Speaker 1 33:32
No, no no no no Rosemary isn't from here roasteries from
Unknown Speaker 33:41
No, no no no. No because Georgie wasn't born with this or if he was you know God made me God Danny I don't think so doesn't look like them but God you This is quite a long time ago it looks like one of these guys now now looks like Tuffy looks like Tuffy now that's George's father. He was known as
Unknown Speaker 34:18
a Paki was tepees son.
Speaker 1 34:23
Okay, so you know the like he just died. Archie was funky. No, no, no. Georgie was funky the guy that just died this year. That was punky as what he was nicknamed as punky toughie, this is that
Speaker 2 34:39
you know that I hear other names that sometimes I don't quite know
Speaker 1 34:44
No, sorry. Yeah. Looks like you know, that looks like toffee
Unknown Speaker 34:55
Debbie Bella Nene these. Most of
Speaker 2 34:57
you don't Carolyn Hasina. She may have named quite a few but apparently Alistair Ross was in here this morning he says he has them all written down somewhere
Unknown Speaker 35:09
yeah, well I'm going to double check with that.
Unknown Speaker 35:13
I'm sure I can get it you know
Speaker 1 35:15
well know what Jackie what the only thing I'm concerned about is that it gets accurate because there's some inaccuracies in terms of recording of stuff even boosters forecasts and stuff in it that isn't my recollection exactly up to scratch okay. So I want to try and make sure that done
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try to get the name of
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Gil Knepper.
Speaker 1 35:56
That looks like Jackie hawthorns your letter? It would be either Archie's or Jackie hos was getting better I think could be Darrell George's and who lived in Salt Spring and came over and visited from time to time but it looks more like it actually looks like Jackie's will
Speaker 1 36:26
blow that picture up please. Well, that's true as Archie looks just like Archie can tell by the hat and just the way just the winds just the way he's his his sitting there. So that looks like Archie now that could be on Jackie's boat he did but he had a different but when I knew he had a bigger bowl wasn't a gillnet or why it hadn't been converted to a kilometer it could have been Archie's mini gives it to Jack you're later but okay, that's that's got to be Archie. What is yours? No no no idea
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from the air
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that's it and even from a head fotografie I could never have
Speaker 2 37:59
been a stranger before someone's nose being squished up against this thing
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okay
Speaker 1 38:30
see there's a shed I was talking about the Georgia Sun house. There's the old boathouse and you see there's no Maples up here yet. There's very few maples and even not even over there as a board vote more dare I don't know if there's a float if you can see if there's a if there's a float there you'll be able to pinpoint that because government records it was a government dock looks like a boat moored look like a float to me you see and Jackie and Jackie and Archie used them where their boats out there and they had the senior post to moron so the house on the hill looks like Mrs. Fisher's house which was later became furred Stewart's house yeah
Unknown Speaker 39:25
that water yeah
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what do you think this one is?
Unknown Speaker 39:38
Does maple trees grow fairly quickly so I don't know. But I would say in the 30 sometimes C into fat Maple Leafs beside the house 30 years to get as big of a deal. We got pretty big so it's fairly quick. So most maple trees they're been around now. Hey guys. I don't know
Speaker 2 40:20
Yeah, yeah, around the same time look slow the maple trees
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pretty high.
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This could have been maybe in the 50s
Speaker 1 40:30
Nope. Before because that holster 1946 Our house was built in 1946 So that would be down in the house of the over there 46
Unknown Speaker 40:43
Who built your
Speaker 1 40:45
grandfather? Cottage, you know, and I think my grandfather and I think will loosen up built a chimney. So they may have helped each other build it together. So, and that was 46 and it was just built to be a cottage he was going to build a bigger house up there, but he died before that occur. So that would have to be pre 46
Unknown Speaker 41:09
How much before 4600 is a? Oh yeah yeah, they have but they're still fairly low here. Now you could never see that rock from our place from Oak trees would cover and there's no trees there anymore
Speaker 2 41:43
Do you know anything about Indians from an island
Speaker 1 41:50
got some great pitchers. Felix jack and jack there's Felix and Emma. That's my picture. You took it from our family. That's Felix that's mo
Unknown Speaker 42:08
these two have a cherry orchard.
Speaker 1 42:12
I don't know. I was never on their their land. My dad was all the time. But I never was sort of didn't go on their land this year invited. My dad was very good friends of theirs. And as you're kidding, like kids running around and stuff. But they would come across and we came over in the summers. They would come across we put a flag up and they would come across the next day. And well, I can show you I can show you exactly where they live. And he made lots of dugout canoes. Oh yes. He was a tremendous dugout canoes, cedar curbs. Incredible. As a matter of fact, Dallas has one of his canoes in his yard Oh yeah, I've got it. She means we've got I still got get them. Yeah, they're unbelievable. And also Felix made that dugout. So my mom's maiden baler would use to build water either canoes to me that for us and we've got I think it's probably we've got some of the baskets is perfect. I have a picture than hanging up in the cabin where I mean they were very special people. Very proud people. His son drowned. He had his son and daughter madrone getting clams. They consumed very well and they would go to the beach and had I guess it all dug up into that they told me around behind you get to the double and fishbowl like we saw Jackie's flipped over in the drone they left three children and the three children are brought by Felix who rode them every day from I'll show you where it was to me now and to school to keep round came along and took the daughter history doesn't put the government very good
Unknown Speaker 44:25
but I'll show you where they live you can see it from blocks you know that there's a little bay
Speaker 1 44:34
park and it's not on the point itself but in that little bay
Unknown Speaker 44:42
right there. If you can zoom it up, I can show you Yeah, right there. Remember this right there? That's where they live right there.
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Do you sit across in a little? Yeah,
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right in there and everyone in the back there. And
Speaker 1 45:08
and I've got some of his anchors that he used for his canoe that he made on a rock or got maybe were handed down and the rocks like that with holes drilled in both sides and or punch lines you know that's that's not the relative I know I don't know who that is. Oh, no. Well we have seen that we will do that. That's not Yeah, we don't know. No. No
Unknown Speaker 45:47
me that will be Felix Nam again. Same picture
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Jackie Hawthorne in red Howard.
Speaker 1 46:09
And you know something? You remember that picture we saw earlier with the Georgeson? That looks like it was really hard when he was younger. Oh, sending him back. Just look at it now. I thought it was somebody else but it looks like it was it was it was read hard. That was with George's son when he was a younger man. But anyway else we'll find out but that's definitely Jackie. How would you think Jackie looks pretty young. 20s No, he wouldn't be 30 I don't think No, I don't think so.
Speaker 2 46:51
John Carroll attorney let's look at his hands. That he was a really big Bare Knuckle fighter. What they used to do that his hands are all broken. gnarled from fighting
Unknown Speaker 47:10
so if you're 20 What about what year?
Speaker 1 47:13
Are you 72 I think no. Okay, so at least 40 That would be back when 40 is 52 Now it would be what for you I'm just thinking
Speaker 1 47:35
I can ask him he's still alive he's great. He remembers a lot of things I mean he can tell you history about the island I mean he's I love to talk to he he you know he remembers it he hasn't forgotten things I mean he's really quick right
Unknown Speaker 48:08
watching actors pass and that's
Speaker 1 48:12
sort of on our on our rocks and that can you blow that up their place
Unknown Speaker 48:27
smashing Yeah, I don't know. Which and that might be birdie. As opposed to jerseys and it might be
Unknown Speaker 48:45
yes, okay. Fine I
Unknown Speaker 48:54
think was Archie's not positive but I'll find out when
Unknown Speaker 49:12
we saw this one well,
Speaker 1 49:14
we saw a version of exactly that one that we saw version of that SS that can be only garnish works well, I always log off a month going in the early 50s. And he brought them down here and he brought them down on our beach to prison right aways to the beach
Unknown Speaker 49:51
people just don't block me.
Speaker 1 49:55
There's still a big iron ring into our rocket the type of boost I
Unknown Speaker 50:00
think I remember Ollie
Unknown Speaker 50:25
not really, my stays over here, just
Unknown Speaker 50:33
so you think this is
Unknown Speaker 50:37
the end? 20s? Yeah, maybe in the late 20s. Early 30s
Speaker 1 50:50
Yeah, Jackie gave them to me, because we have the place and he knows that I'm really interested in sort of preserving things. So he gave me the pitchers interested in coming over? Oh, he comes over from time to time, it usually comes over once or twice a year. And I've told them I've been telling him in and telling him that they're trying to document the pictures. So, you know, I'll give him a call when I get back in tomorrow. And I'll talk to him and I say look, you better come off and witnesses and we'll go and see kitten you can you can spend an afternoon filling in some of these pictures. Because he's your I mean, he's been here longer than most people and he knows stories. He does his bills guns too.
Speaker 2 51:46
Yeah, he does. I really I love him a wonderful voice. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1 51:50
a really good storyteller. And he's got the mirror to me.
Unknown Speaker 51:57
Yeah, which seems pretty
Speaker 1 52:02
cool. Presuming I guess I'm gonna do one or two more pictures. I can meet with you again next week. And
Speaker 2 52:09
actually, you know what happened to that lucky from water to the next one
Speaker 1 52:21
here same thing, two different versions this was
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what it was like
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Morgan
Speaker 1 52:44
Yeah. Well, I think that's a bill Campbell's property
Speaker 1 52:56
well, there was a camp up there. My dad had a political thing and musical thing there was people have some pretty There's a famous musician from New York that came over to John Goss over that very famous British musician. He came over here
Speaker 1 53:20
I assume that was my my dad. Well, those days you had more delegate No. More. What was that?
Unknown Speaker 53:33
What was your didn't cancel about?
Speaker 1 53:37
I tell you, I'm not exactly sure. But I'll ask my mom. Because she'll know. I have some idea that this is a place where there's a retreat for political and musical. Yeah. Plot the overthrow of the world. Well, they were it was a pretty radical group. And, and that's, that's my recollection. We'll also check with my mom. No, it's beyond my different writing. I remember going there but it was very small. I just remember going there. even heard of that. Yeah. Well, no. But it was you see, I think it was just we're Bill Campbell's places now we're just in or other young families and I'm trying to think Did you just decide to retreat go? It's about maybe a mile or two south of the tree in that area down in their property? My grandfather did. My recollection.
Speaker 1 54:53
tell you if you couldn't delete your logo that was been I know. Everyone's saying, Oh, she did talk to Betty. Betty knew all about that. She knew John boss too. Oh really? Oh, yes, she was she always used to ask me well, John Ross because they were good friends of ours. And that's the original Morgan homestead. That's up at the end of Morgan road. Yeah, and it was very, very young but where are the psychiatrists and others and they just don't know his name like it's your child? Yes, it was before him it was a hazard by that for my grandmother has resold it to the pilot Marine pilot
Speaker 1 55:43
then he sold it to hazard but that was their original homestead. I don't know what your interesting figure at least it had to be. Well, yeah, of course. Of course. Probably. Pretty built up
Unknown Speaker 56:09
just after housing
Speaker 1 56:18
since you're 5150, my grandmother shoulder 6060 to 60. Somewhere. In the middle 60s, maybe. Along housing was in there. I'll tell you who can tell you that as Lucy. Phyllis, his wife is a daughter of a has to ride horses. All right. Well, she could probably tell you when that burned up, because her dad lost everything. Because I remember your mom saying oh yeah, there's still stuff up in the attic. They didn't realize my grandmother was pretty shaken up when my grandfather died. So she just left down and basically maybe over the summers but never
Speaker 1 57:12
did much other than it used to be the road of course the money you were used to go right up the side there and this is before the road came up. I know what year that was but in the only way he went to money he was around through Morgan Ehrlichman back now. It wasn't called Margaret and Roseanne it was probably called money he wrote I think that's what it was called Axia now thinking positive it seems to me that was Monday he wrote at the halfway you know the whole thing if for some reason I don't know why. Cut it off and then name the murderer for this because my grandpa was nice. My grandfather
Unknown Speaker 58:01
should you one more?
Unknown Speaker 58:18
Yes. Now, okay, so there's some pitches here, you don't have that you should have.
Speaker 1 58:32
Yeah, that's the same from a different angle shows the division between going to Montague and going to data where we are now. Oh, and it mean? It's all boy. Two tracks here. Two tracks here, but it's got to sign up. Oh, really? Yeah. And I have that picture.
Speaker 2 58:56
We have another one that is the same tracks dirt and it's like the corner there.
Speaker 1 59:05
The other one shows going out to pasture and I'm sure now as I think about it, you can have to blow it up. I haven't blown it up. I have to blow it up to them. Sure. It says muddy road. And they don't know what the other what the name of the other road was exactly what the heck the name of it was. But I've got that and there's a couple other ones in there that are really interesting too. Was a lot of them that I haven't seen here that I know. I don't know if you've taken them but you know that they're interesting about the place on the island, not just a million photographs nice
Speaker 2 59:44
to get into the really interesting ones but they're coming along
Unknown Speaker 59:52
don't mean
Unknown Speaker 59:58
Whoa, yeah, that's right. There's one
Speaker 1 1:00:06
more Yeah, that's it. Boy that must have been when they were just building
Speaker 1 1:00:20
remember that's the bridge over the creek that goes right down to two news. Yeah Murchison Creek you see all kinds of choden trout Yeah. Yeah
Speaker 2 1:00:43
creek that goes past that the same one that we used to have my sites when we moved down Georgia
Speaker 1 1:00:54
Murchison creek goes down through the builders face code into recent fields. There's still
Unknown Speaker 1:01:01
another time to reintroduce trout No,
Speaker 1 1:01:03
they're there. No one has to reintroduce them they're they're caught them all weekend I caught a bunch in a draft with five years ago no one believed that they're trying to nurse as a truck they're my whole life is short now that they're there and we went and got some I used to go I used to walk to the mail to the news because that's where the post office used to be. Where Nan and Donnell newer driver box head heads there and there's all kinds of children upon us to serve little red berries down by now and then we caught them there in a chapel five years ago a beautiful little catch up shortly. classic red slashes
Speaker 2 1:01:48
what they're trying to do is make their buildings get to the trap can actually swim up
Speaker 1 1:01:54
to their land loss and they used to come up with probably see going through the came up into emergency Bay and came up through there. Can't do it now because I looked at it about again about four years ago to see what the problem was of course the road had all caved in the culvert so there's no way we could get through there. But they were in there and there's even bigger trout in Garth CareFirst place so you don't they don't have to introduce the truck. They're there it is because there's a lot of people who believe that there has chosen this island. Right. And they're they're still going to come back and and I'll tell I'll try and talk to to Arca Jackie, if I don't get a chance to talk to Jackie. I'll make sure that he doesn't Okay, I'll see if I can but no, no, it was sneaky nature. Yeah, you know, I mean, and I've got some of the wander off of some of the slats off of your barn before it from race before it came down because I was doing woodshed and I wanted it because it's and I went over to Alan's and I was telling this as a new year old barn and he built you a tunnel he built it and I think he said some Haworth or somebody else built it page and those guys just there was handling lumber so they helped build the lumber that was built by so and so wasn't open and see and that's the problem that he you know, is missing certain things that occurred in it. Not entirely accurate. And that's why I'm sort of taking an interest in it because I know some of the things that I've heard it's not my recollection of what was happening where and how it's people who've come here in the 40s or something all of a sudden their history Yeah,
Unknown Speaker 1:04:00
not right. Okay. All right. Well, you were just too damn busy down there. You know have you been able to identify everyone in there? No,
Speaker 2 1:04:18
not yet. We have this good, buddy
Unknown Speaker 1:04:28
No.
Unknown Speaker 1:04:45
Yeah. So you want to make an appointment, or do you want to
Speaker 1 1:04:53
just give me a call because all of a sudden, like today almost a week Just gotta go and what can tend to do we just got everything going again because it's part of World of the house the other was the gravity thank you
Unknown Speaker 1:05:14
okay
Speaker 2 1:05:21
yeah, they're about two weeks away. Yeah, I knew that they are I think those are all tour to the lodge. So that's American was the boat that brought people into the wash. They're all we tenders or whatever.
Unknown Speaker 1:05:40
And I haven't seen that one up there but
Unknown Speaker 1:05:45
it is in the passenger seat
Speaker 1 1:05:50
because your nose and perhaps the old warehouse were down a year
Speaker 1 1:06:01
David burgers, you're down in New York.
Speaker 2 1:06:06
That's 2121 29
Unknown Speaker 1:06:14
who those people
Speaker 2 1:06:18
think those are all just Islanders, you know hitching a ride. They would drive up to the North End and people would all jump on
Speaker 1 1:06:30
the north end drive to the north end was like a two hour trip. Yeah. People don't believe that it was. We would go to the north end with my uncle. We came over here. We go up there. Twice a summer. We've grown up there and we tourism dollars back or maybe more. Now you live here
Part Three
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See
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did hurt when he kicked your toe
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elephant stepped on my
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toes ah that's a princess of Nanaimo. Oh Helen point
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did your dad take that
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doubt it
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type of thing of the year that would be
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I don't recognize the marker
Speaker 1 0:56
at the moment that's not suitable this year this this marker that's how I'm point
Unknown Speaker 1:08
Toland right here so can't be that 50 mid 50s America
Speaker 2 1:39
okay Jim's good whatever good should have a good memory
Unknown Speaker 1:44
oh we've seen this one before this yeah
Unknown Speaker 1:48
we've seen that yeah so it's just
Unknown Speaker 1:52
the same picture but different copy of it was yellow Netherlands black
Speaker 2 2:00
all those textures I don't want you Yeah
Speaker 3 2:05
was it a lot the other day okay this was a
Speaker 3 2:14
this is a ship at studies in color that's the one we just did and now ships of ships of the royal visit again
Unknown Speaker 2:20
not that one
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yeah
Speaker 2 2:25
yeah, say no on different place just about the same same idea day
Unknown Speaker 2:34
Yeah, same same
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place but this one is further around
Unknown Speaker 2:37
yeah sure
Speaker 1 2:46
about three minutes later got one up there right around the corner
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yeah
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okay
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Southwind drive
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thru daddy okay
Unknown Speaker 3:13
when was this most
Speaker 1 3:15
of the tree just fell away just have to come heading to your pizza just have to go past finished driveway.
Unknown Speaker 3:25
Trees look a lot bigger now. Did just someone in your family take this picture?
Unknown Speaker 3:33
Yes, Dad
Unknown Speaker 3:35
had about 1929 That part hasn't changed that much.
Unknown Speaker 3:48
Treat her go nuts
Unknown Speaker 3:58
Would you Would he have been going down to visit Stanley or someone?
Unknown Speaker 4:01
Yeah. Yeah, more than likely.
Unknown Speaker 4:10
This is St. Margaret's concentration.
Speaker 1 4:12
I don't know who the people are. But it was a prophet dedication St. Margaret.
Speaker 2 4:24
Oh, yes. Because I don't know who is all four ministers. There's so it must have been a special dedication person.
Unknown Speaker 4:37
I don't know who's who they are. Maybe they were 53 or 52 or 53.
Unknown Speaker 4:55
Did you go to it.
Speaker 2 4:58
That survey Human are no before I'm pretty sure
Unknown Speaker 5:07
the church was here when you came
Unknown Speaker 5:08
oh yes
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so here is sticks out the same
Unknown Speaker 5:27
picture last week of me standing beside that one sticks down lesson taking the same day taking the lighthouse up to what was that again? What was the date? About 1130? Question I 3536 ended up picture of me. Yes. You should have been harassed we could have seen it
Unknown Speaker 6:07
I've seen it before. Okay.
Speaker 3 6:10
Anything else that sticks out? Listen. Any thing you remember about him?
Speaker 1 6:17
Only that I met him. I don't remember too much about him.
Unknown Speaker 6:22
Did you ever meet him? It used to be
Speaker 1 6:25
to go to the North End and Louis he used to be a whole day's affair. If you go as far as you keep COVID Have lunch and then grow up as far as we keep COVID Come back for supper anywhere beyond boutique COVID have to pack a lunch and make a whole day of it
Speaker 3 6:56
studies back in the 1930s 3847
Unknown Speaker 7:06
Or is it before cars like a little older
Unknown Speaker 7:09
I wouldn't know who any of those were a blow that went up but not because not
Unknown Speaker 7:34
could have been guests waiting to go please click it get rid of it
Speaker 3 7:49
okay, here's the sturdy stay post office again we've seen this one haven't we?
Unknown Speaker 7:54
Yeah, I was in the the island tight party you recall 40?
Speaker 1 8:15
What year was that guy corrected everybody on as to what year it was. You said you recognize a car from particular years or couldn't mean two years before that
Speaker 1 8:34
this is the gas station over there just devote just about where the very booth is now. At Ben big store down below it. The spot where the telephone booth is in the parking lot now. Was this the post office? How was the post office after being dragged up and down the bottom here? There's a picture I think last week of mom sitting in front of post office. That's where it was then. And
Speaker 2 9:01
then. So Clarkson's house was down at the bottom there.
Speaker 1 9:07
It is. was F o'clock since then, but no no one took action then.
Unknown Speaker 9:18
It was when I knew I would be there
Unknown Speaker 9:22
before I knew you
Unknown Speaker 9:32
maybe Ben makes your living there in no shape. I don't know
Unknown Speaker 9:37
anything more?
Unknown Speaker 9:48
Okay, here's the study's worth. When do you think this was?
Unknown Speaker 9:57
I have always been doubtful about that picture.
Unknown Speaker 10:05
I'm doubtful whether it was even
Unknown Speaker 10:06
here already but look, I think that says Galleon OBC anything that says Galliano etc. Definitely.
Unknown Speaker 10:21
Definitely says
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See, Think about a different wharf
Speaker 1 10:28
I didn't recognize the word shell for one thing I didn't recognize the when the book came into the wharf
Unknown Speaker 10:37
says yeah,
Speaker 1 10:39
it must be but I don't and then that that particular word or that watershed or
Speaker 2 10:44
maybe that before your turn it could be 1925
Unknown Speaker 10:48
Put it down that
Speaker 3 10:53
looks like the 20s from So, was your debt your dad was here in 25? Was he Oh yeah.
Unknown Speaker 11:03
It might have been before dad was postmaster I'd say maybe around 1925 or so
Unknown Speaker 11:19
okay,
Speaker 3 11:19
this is the corner we saw that one last time to anyway, but this is if you seen this one. This is new
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has changed a bit?
Unknown Speaker 11:36
Hasn't it? Yes.
Unknown Speaker 11:48
Yeah, sure has changed because the Georgia foreign refund they're now up to Georgia to refund the intersection. They're now
Unknown Speaker 11:57
running over it all the time. I don't know
Unknown Speaker 11:58
where it got the name of Georgia. sunreef.
Unknown Speaker 12:06
There we go. This north end? Oh, yeah. Sure has changed. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 12:18
Kathy may lead to that one.
Speaker 3 12:20
Okay. And your dad this one. I think I remember you saying last time
Unknown Speaker 12:23
I'd be 30 or 31? That picture
Speaker 3 12:40
okay, I think we've seen this one too. This one says the old and the new 1937. We saw this
Unknown Speaker 12:48
go is about the same time as or is it? Nothing to the sun? Yeah, that was probably the same day. All right.
Unknown Speaker 12:59
And when was that? This is you as little babies. Early 30s. Yes.
Speaker 1 13:06
3131 or 3237? Yeah, no, no way. How long before? 37?
Unknown Speaker 13:16
Okay, maybe 27.
Speaker 3 13:20
Not Well, that means there's there Steven. Yeah. The same day
Unknown Speaker 13:25
31.
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And he was this again. Oh, that.
Unknown Speaker 13:31
Tony Bell.
Speaker 2 13:34
You then today? No. With Tony Abell? Not your mother there in the white
Unknown Speaker 13:42
hat. Nice sitting
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in there. Maybe.
Speaker 1 13:49
That looks like John Robinson. I didn't think he was over here that far back. But it's definitely not 1937
Speaker 2 13:59
Okay, I don't know whether that looks like your mother in law. Maybe. What? Could it have been your grandmother in there? No.
Speaker 3 14:11
This was up by retreat Cove. This is up by retreat. Cove. Did you?
Speaker 1 14:19
Have you ever had a chance to talk to dimples Bell don't pose Stevens. She knows about that one. Have you tried to react?
Speaker 3 14:33
Well, I haven't asked her. I will though. But other people have asked her but she hasn't. She didn't really want to talk apparently. Well, I think she has a lot of photographs that she hasn't given up. Oh, yeah. Maybe. Maybe you could talk to her. No, you don't have to. Okay, so this is the valley. Where's this? This is
Speaker 1 14:59
about Her house up in the valley rebuilt her reach and there's a barn in about 1920s 2728 They when mum and dad got married they decided to change the brain over to become over this abandoned before I was
Unknown Speaker 15:24
1930
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Yeah
Unknown Speaker 15:31
I used to like the upstairs of the house and I had a lovely dress out over the valley that was the bedroom upstairs
Unknown Speaker 15:45
I can't think of anything
Unknown Speaker 15:48
okay, is that your dad right there?
Unknown Speaker 15:51
I have I don't know maybe okay
Unknown Speaker 16:03
goodness Rolemaster okay the valley house in color oh no that's different yep
Unknown Speaker 16:20
this looks like quite a lot later
Unknown Speaker 16:27
on all the trees have settled in
Speaker 2 16:31
us used to be quite a pretty it was really pretty there.
Unknown Speaker 16:34
It is still pretty.
Unknown Speaker 16:36
Well I know what is sad. That's worse
Unknown Speaker 16:45
that's real upside down. How sad
Speaker 3 16:51
Okay, let's try again. I'll try do try switch it again. Alright. When do you think this picture was taken?
Speaker 1 17:03
46 Maybe 46
Speaker 2 17:14
That was before the post office was put in there before the bad fat part was put into the post.
Unknown Speaker 17:22
No, I don't think so. If a flop one more time I could see better
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rotate right
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cross my fingers
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not
Speaker 1 18:13
attach the post office who put there after the process has added on because your total is added on here? Yeah. That'd be about 46. And then there was a picture of me standing on the bridge.
Unknown Speaker 18:33
Your dad's old garage.
Speaker 1 18:36
Right let's take a razor. Yeah, yeah, the picture of me up me and mum up on top that platform drapes that's kitty corner from here.
Speaker 2 18:45
Yeah. Thanks. It was very pretty it wasn't it? Oh, yes. It sure was
Unknown Speaker 18:53
and I guess you had a lot of visitors coming into the post office
Speaker 1 18:59
Well, I'm always glad that they let that hedge Laurel hedge go up along the road in front because you can see what it looks like now and I can always remember when it used to be
Unknown Speaker 19:10
lovely garden flower garden. Nice big lawn
Unknown Speaker 19:26
so is this a picture that your dad took?
Speaker 1 19:34
There's one picture you're ahead of me sitting in the driver's seat of an old normal car. That will take mine in front of that house.
Speaker 1 19:49
Valley house in the winter? Yep. Any picture? right with that? indicator was sitting right in front of this front window right is where that picture me in the driver's seat of the truck will take that would be
Unknown Speaker 20:22
could have been any time just
Unknown Speaker 20:27
gonna say 35 because the post has hadn't been added on
Unknown Speaker 20:54
do you root out what was that? who seek out the root out of the Lowe's place dugout for keeping potatoes and not the root vegetables. And then when dad got a an engine to supply it, give himself electricity. He put it down and they're done the routers cut the sand down in the hose you couldn't even hear it.
Unknown Speaker 21:32
So you had a generator for
Speaker 1 21:33
239 Maybe both 39 Okay.
Unknown Speaker 21:45
Anything else about your house
Unknown Speaker 21:55
says the valley near nipped
Unknown Speaker 21:58
faith not behind Stephen entiende?
Speaker 3 22:14
The Neptunes place and your places over.
Speaker 1 22:20
Keep that thanks still. Right. Right there is a barn that used to be right across the house right across the road from our house, which is that that had little barns up behind our place behind our house. Which is that one up there? The big barn buildings. tall wooden building as Steve mentioned.
Unknown Speaker 22:50
Wow, it's a big place.
Speaker 1 22:53
This over here is the big barn that Russia took down not too long ago.
Unknown Speaker 22:58
That was a big house.
Unknown Speaker 23:02
Harris has left over that time. Did your dad be question mark 2930.
Unknown Speaker 23:21
And who lived here the Harris's
Unknown Speaker 23:23
Harris? Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 23:30
I think we've got some pictures with them in it
Unknown Speaker 23:41
so could you know who these people are? I
Speaker 1 23:43
don't know who they were. That was about 19 Diamond but
Unknown Speaker 23:52
maybe any free to measure
Speaker 2 23:53
looks like free to say. That's right. That's right to be definitely.
Unknown Speaker 24:03
And if we don't meet that 35 Pretty shake. Yeah. Sure. Daddy picture. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 24:17
You think he was a great photographer wasn't Yes. Beautiful.
Unknown Speaker 24:23
Camera wasn't worse. Of course.
Unknown Speaker 24:29
Yeah. That's what that means. So who do you think you don't know who these other people are? Do
Unknown Speaker 24:37
you know I don't
Speaker 1 24:38
remember Ben from mushroom rock by walk along the shore to get to the cave. This one please. Word steep and lock comes right down. And you have to reach around to get a grip on it to go around. Mama was used to call that place. The Queen extractor.
Unknown Speaker 25:01
Everybody can do it. I remember getting a struggle to get around there
Unknown Speaker 25:18
used to go and explore the cave. Oh,
Unknown Speaker 25:21
yes. Sure. At least once a year we used to go down to it.
Unknown Speaker 25:32
It looks much bigger, don't you think?
Unknown Speaker 25:33
Yes, it does.
Unknown Speaker 25:35
I think it's smaller now.
Unknown Speaker 25:36
Great, lightly worn down.
Unknown Speaker 25:41
Not that much. quarter the size of people in that picture
Speaker 3 25:53
here is Winky. Yeah. And who said that one of your children made
Unknown Speaker 25:58
you
Unknown Speaker 26:03
look so good, Dave.
Unknown Speaker 26:06
Thank you. I think you had a crush on your kiddos. Yeah.
Speaker 1 26:10
I don't know why. You're not taking that. I'll take her up in the corner. The front lawn of the pro shop. Yes.
Speaker 3 26:18
This is in front of the post office. Yeah. At your house. Yeah.
Speaker 2 26:24
Unless you had padding in here your shoulder. Maybe.
Speaker 3 26:32
So when she was your neighbor, right. She was right. She lived with her mother in the cottage behind. So this is about 1940
Unknown Speaker 26:41
That'd be
Unknown Speaker 26:44
during during the warrior warrior.
Unknown Speaker 26:46
241. Epson 41
Speaker 2 26:55
He was a refugee. She and her mother Weren't they? They were evacuated during the war.
Unknown Speaker 27:07
Trying to remember whether they were up there when Pearl Harbor or not. I'll see that we've got 1942 Do not buy dead. Not.
Unknown Speaker 27:21
Not good enough. That
Unknown Speaker 27:23
was overseas. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 27:27
And look, she's out of focus. Your dad wouldn't have anything else? Maybe her mom's okay
Unknown Speaker 27:43
here's a Christmas card from 1938
Unknown Speaker 27:45
Before the 30
Speaker 2 27:49
year old car that's your dad driving 38
Unknown Speaker 27:55
Question mark 38
Speaker 3 28:00
Thanks that's his old did he know he's in the picture but you think he did a timer thing? Was what do you think he used a timer to take that picture?
Speaker 2 28:16
Are those the head? I don't know. doubt they'd have timers once days. That had the camera had the I know but a timer on it. I don't think so. They didn't have timers in those days. Did they?
Unknown Speaker 28:35
Remember tea try fun timer. No, I don't think so.
Unknown Speaker 28:46
It's nice, isn't it? Yeah.
Speaker 1 28:49
Maybe mum took the picture after dad set it up. I don't know. Doesn't have to set it up
Unknown Speaker 29:04
that's the last one. That's it. Okay.
Unknown Speaker 29:13
That's quite a few.
Speaker 3 29:14
I know we've been through. I'd say about 130 It's a lot of pictures. Yeah.
Speaker 1 29:23
Either. rubato gasp today I was coming home at two but for the boat to get in there that I had to hand this down into a boot out the middle of the Passion row center bringing sin by boot. By gasp because the boot couldn't get into the work too rough.
Speaker 3 29:44
You were you were just been born. Where were you born? Were you born in Vancouver?
Unknown Speaker 29:55
Oh, when I first came over with you the boat didn't come up here to join after vote on May 9,
Speaker 1 30:05
we got on to Dallas. Georgia. Yes. All right. All right, middle of miners bay because the book couldn't get into the work over there.
Speaker 2 30:16
So Clarkson also had a vote. So it would be either one or the transport. About 10 of us will be here.
Speaker 1 30:30
I remember coming home 52 In your opinion, Facebook could get into Port Washington we had him on Buzzfeed go from Fort Washington when the last time they came home for Christmas
Speaker 1 30:53
on the other hand, one of the first day cyber traveler questions together
Speaker 2 31:05
on sutil Yes. there anymore, not pseudo. No, that's right. It's not
Speaker 1 31:11
like the high cut to film on point when you can get through there but there's no trail. Yeah. Yeah. To let go to the private you
Unknown Speaker 31:25
said you have to be on good journalism. Let us through
Unknown Speaker 31:36
all kinds of pairs used to be able to go Yeah.
Speaker 2 31:41
And then I used to like making a loop with the boys through up through over this style and yeah, there was a style up there. Time over. Sure. On the way through, the patient says yeah, Dorothy gladwyn lived there. John skins Yeah. That's where he lives now.
Unknown Speaker 32:15
I get to a lot about this place that used to be fun, and then we'd make a loop for well, the patient doesn't back down. Yeah. Pass along giant.
Unknown Speaker 32:34
Well down that way. Yeah.
Unknown Speaker 32:37
Sure. You've got pictures is an orange giant, I guess. The truth of a tree.
Speaker 1 32:47
Well, if you want to do a, an article, or an article for the gig. Okay, but might be a hostile witness.
