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Early SSI Schools, 1860-1951

Usha Rautenbach, 2007

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Date 2007
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    Early Saltspring island schools.
  • Speaker discusses early schools on Saltspring Island from 1860 to 1951, including one-room schools that ended in 1951.
  • Speaker shares clues for creating a map of island schoolhouse sites through a slideshow.
    The history of schools in a small island community.
  • In 1860, the first school in the Sidious Bay area was established, called the Central School.
  • In 1896, a new school building was constructed in the Burgoyne Valley, called the Burgoyne B School.
  • Speaker 1 discusses the history of schools in the North End of Vancouver Island, including the North Vesuvius School and the Ganges Harbour School.
  • The speaker highlights the divide between the North End and Central districts, and how the school buildings were used for community events and fundraising.
  • Speaker 1 shares stories about the closure of one-room schoolhouses on Saltspring Island, including the persistence of local communities in maintaining their schools for 10 years despite the consolidation movement.
  • The speaker highlights the importance of the one-room schoolhouses in fostering a sense of community among students and teachers, and notes that the longest continuously operating school in Canada is on Saltspring Island, established in 1885.
    The history of schools and ethnic diversity on Saltspring Island.
  • In 1951, Saltspring Island schools consolidated into a single school, leading to improved transportation between areas.
  • Saltspring Island's early settlers were diverse, including black, European, Japanese, Chinese, and indigenous peoples.
    Education and school history in a small town.
  • Speaker 1 discusses a photograph of different ethnic groups in a school, while Speaker 6 shares a personal story about growing up in a diverse community.
  • John Craven Jones, a teacher born into slavery, passed on his passion for education to his children and grandchildren, who became educators and continued his legacy.
  • John Craven Jones taught children at Central School, including black families who arrived with children first.
  • The black settlement area was located near Central School, with farms settled along the area.
    The history of Saltspring Island, BC, Canada.
  • Henry William Robinson, a Black man born in Bermuda, arrived on Saltspring Island with his family in 1850, despite local resistance due to his race.
  • Community rallies around Burgoyne Bay school, challenges North Enders with new building.
  • Speaker 1 shares stories about the history of the area, including the building of a church and the arrival of a bell from Fountain Valley.
  • Speaker 2 mentions the relocation of the church and the installation of doors and windows in a new location.
    Local history and community development.
  • Speaker discusses influential women in their life, including Emily Veredus and Maria Malloy.
  • Speaker 1 shares stories of the community in Beaver Point, including the history of the primary school and the impact of various events on the community.
  • Speaker 1 highlights the changes in the community over time, including the arrival of new families and the challenges they face in farming and gardening.
    Early Saltspring Island life and family photos.
  • Speaker 1 describes a group of people in a rural area, including children and teachers, and mentions the lack of modern amenities such as running water and electricity.
  • Speaker reflects on their childhood in a large family on Salt Spring Island, BC.
  • Speaker 1 discusses family photos, mentions specific individuals and their ages.
    Education and family history.
  • John Craven was a passionate teacher who believed in giving equal education to both men and women, despite the societal norms of his time.
  • He was criticized for teaching Latin grammar to one of his students, but he continued to inspire his students with his idealism and love for learning.
  • John Craven Jones taught his daughter Emma to read and write, and she became a renowned teacher on Saltspring Island.
  • Emma's older sister became the first fully qualified and practicing black female physician in the United States, while another sister pursued politics.
  • Speaker 1 discusses their childhood experiences in a women's school and how they learned about history through oral traditions.
  • Speaker 1 shares their collection of writing instruments from different time periods, including quills and dip pens.
    Historical food and school memories.
  • Speaker 1 discusses using composition books and slate pencils for writing, sharing personal experiences and advocating for their continued use.
  • Speaker 1 recounts memories of school days, including chasing a lizard around the classroom and gathering food from the apple trees.
    Education, work, and family in the early 20th century.
  • Former slave teaches mother how to read in Canada, persisting through hardship.
  • Children in the 1930s had chores at school, including chopping wood and fetching water.
  • Elizabeth Sampson Hutchinson tells the story of how she and her sister came to live on Mount Maxwell, where they found a remote cabin to raise their two small children after the husband's accidental suicide.
  • Elizabeth prepares for the long winter months by chopping and fencing off land to plant vegetables, while keeping the pig fenced in to prevent it from getting taxed.
    Teaching children geography using maps and landmarks.
  • Elizabeth and Chester discuss their family's history and traditions.
  • Speaker 1 reflects on their experience teaching young children, mentioning their initial hesitation but eventual excitement in seeing the children learn and grow.
  • Speaker 1 shares their observation that children are more likely to retain information when they are actively involved in the learning process, such as through creative activities like making an app.
  • Speaker 1 explains how to find specific locations on a map, using colored pencils and string to mark important features.
  • Speaker 1 offers to help students find the locations without using pins and string, simply drawing them on the map instead.
    Using a website for educational resources.
  • Speaker 1 discusses using pictures from a school project for a scavenger hunt.
  • Teachers discuss using a website for lesson plans and sharing resources.
    Education, schools, and history.
  • Speaker 1 discusses teaching methods and criticisms from an inspector.
  • Father-in-law and grandfather discuss property deeds and mortgages on Saltspring Island.
  • Unknown speaker discusses school district and Chromebooks with Speaker 1.
    Property lines and school population.
  • Steve and Unknown Speaker discuss property lines and cadastral files.
  • Unknown Speaker discusses high school memories and population growth.
    Private schools, racism, and education.
  • Unknown speaker reflects on past experiences and conversations, mentioning a father carrying water and a secret wedding.
  • Merkel's former school in Berlin now a private school, with blueprints in archives.
  • Leonard Tolson's school for boys in Pakistan has become a success story, with backing from the local community and the ability to include girls in the schools he's built.
  • Speaker 1 discusses racism and private schools, while Speaker 2 shares a personal story about a young Indigenous boy.
    Workload and organization.
  • Speaker 10 and Unknown Speaker discuss organizing a meeting, with Speaker 10 mentioning the importance of having a clear agenda and taking notes.

Unknown Speaker 0:00
All right

Unknown Speaker 1:03
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Unknown Speaker 1:15
answers at least we're not gonna give you

Speaker 1 1:41
time please write right on the button. Oh well done everybody who's present and correct. And I haven't stood outside the door and checked your fingernails to see if they're cleaner and sent you to the hygiene post at the back of the room to redo the Washington Park. Today, I'm going to not teach you anything I'm going to involve you in what I have found out about the early schools and Saltspring island. So

Speaker 1 2:18
I won't need one more. I'm only reading what I have to remind myself what I'm supposed to do. I promised you that I would do a class on the school days of the earliest pioneer children introducing the early school to Saltspring island from 1860 to 1951. They probably put a two by mistake. But the one room schools of Saltspring Island ended in 1951. And including a slideshow here it comes of an overview of the eight one room schoolhouses, their locations and the community each served. There was a ninth that was technically speaking a one room schoolhouse, but it had a blanket in between the two rooms and two teachers. And each participant will be provided with the materials to create their own poster map of island schoolhouse sites. Also, if we have time, participants will learn from 1/3 scale models of pioneer children's clothing, learning tools, lunch kits, and the chores done before and after school. So you're all going to have to concentrate very hard through a slideshow, because it's got all the clues to help you to make your map that you take home with you. And I've got glue and colored pencils and scissors and you can decide to have a lot of fun that way. Or you can just ask me lots of questions and studying be meant entirely in your head mentor instead. But I have got enough supplies for you to take something like that. So you can remember forever after by looking at it every day, checking on which community is that and what were they made or made up of which kind of ethnic backgrounds and Which year did they arrive in or just relatively speaking, before this lateral before that Latin which ones came last and things like that. And you're going to put you're going to find all these parts I don't know if you can see from the distance you're at, but I have put the schoolhouse locations in yellow and the ones that you get have no yellow they have no color and but they do have all the names of the roads and everything. And I will give you lots and lots of pictures to choose between. And it's watching this slideshow that will help you to know which picture belongs where you But you don't need to panic. I'll give you a gold star. Put you in the corner with the dancers cap, strap that that's your option if you'd like to. Okay, roll, slashing. So here assaults in 1860. It had one school, that was one school district at that school. That's where Central is now. And it is called the Sidious Bay. That point then became called the CBS. Okay, that's the old one. It was called the Subarus, the subarea space school. Because the settlers first came by, well actually first came by books, individual books that came out this way. But when they were really happening, then the steamship would go through here, from Victoria to Nanaimo. And so its ports of call river Green Bay, and then later a bourbon Bay schoolhouse, and the CVS they would actually use their CVs here. That's where the port of call was, that's where the post could come in. That's where supplies would come in. And so that's this whole community is called the decision space community. And so that was that the first school was in 1860. The second school has enjoyed one day, they called it Bell going be Berkeley value, so the value that goes between the Green Bay and both the harbor is called the Burgoyne Valley and it just became called the Valley and now it tends to be called the full set that was a school this was a picture down here. Tiny little work and then can be the point schoolhouse which is still there at Beaver point next beaver point home. And we have three school districts, each school district with three school trustees in a fourth school district that was which is up at the divide, and it was mysteriously called Ganges. Just to confuse all later historians. And I live on the property where that divide school. That's easy 96 divided school property divide school district came into being. And they're going pay at 1896. We need to pause and talk because so much happened from if we can can. Log school has here was replaced with a friend building. The log school house here was then replaced with an even spiffier frame building. And I recognized immediately are yes, the North End and the South End, they've each got to better the other. So this is the new Burgoyne B School mounting 100 This one is there. Somewhere around 1896. Central Hall came along at 96. At the same time as the divine school. We had a lot of community building a frame houses then the point carried on as it was because it was made this a frame building in 1885 Right from the start. Okay. Oh answer sorry, the Northland internet, the little lager shack became a frame building and it later becomes a spiffier frame. So it had three buildings up at the North needed in 1905, it's about a point community needed to have a school and I have forgotten to say why resolve conflicts because a settlement of communities coming in, but I'll talk about that later. This this one here is certainly what it was called North Vesuvius then it was called the North End school. But they're talking about it further north and central that's central district they're just not here. You come to the island like this is the central but it's the divide because this is a range of mountains across right across and don't permit people from the South to go up to the north in the very early days except by boat or a very dangerous sort of cattle track over very steep okay, we've got to 19 and five and then we split this middle one up to have the crime rate district suddenly had lots of people living up in it, tiny little log cabin, and you'll see that the top that has across most of those school buildings surface of church as well. This is where the visiting ministers would come and give services and and it was also their community hall that was where they had dances where they get together where they can fundraising what kinds of things wasn't just the school. So now we're getting on to that. That was the last one was for cranberry now we've split this further into Ganges harvest school and this is still being called the boundary school because it's really the divide in Victoria it was called the Ganges School on the island it was called the divide

Unknown Speaker 10:37
where is that divide to

Speaker 1 10:39
where I am it's opposite the Blackburn Meadows golf course. And that's the big hill up behind this the divide goes up behind Cushing make up to build showing an auto skin ultra deep down okay. So in this will recognize that buildings because that building is now the Roman Catholic Church, and Mandrake road. That was the Ganges harbour school and this was a chicken house. This is not a separate school district. This is when that last the children of this island got to high school. So this is the chicken house Hi. Lots of great stories, but I am not going to take make this lasts a long time by telling all stories. It was used as a chicken house during the fourth barracks in the summertime. So when they came back to school again, there will always be cleaned up. Seen that they didn't really get rid of them completely innocent children of the janitors anyway. Okay, but a beautiful chicken house, don't you think? It was, it was where was between where mom Hall is now and where salt topspin Elementary is now on that same ground. Same with the agricultural grounds where the for fair school is held when they were up north. The four fairs were held at that Burgoyne Bay School, when they were done selves up at Central and they were up far north. I should record this in County. Okay, so that's the high school now we've got all the school districts. And in 1940, all this one room schoolhouses was supposed to close down and they were all going to come in to the consolidated school, which is Saltspring elementary school will recognize it's the middle of Saltspring elementary building right now. And that was sort of like K through 12. But it was probably one through to less than 12. Back then. You know, in 14, these two communities said no way and put their feet down actually all the other communities did too. But they didn't have the same stamina. This is another point. And focus chosen this picture to show you how what a hard life it was time to get up that snow to go all the way up to the consolidated school and Isabel point all the way down here. So they persisted with their one room schoolhouses for 10 years. And then they had to just succumb to the movement of the times. And it was a huge loss to the communities because they didn't have that community building middle center right where they were. But it was probably a huge gain to Salt Spring Island, because the children growing up then had an idea of themselves being one community of salts. This is the this is when we've appointed had to give up. So here you have some of the old teachers, the ex teachers, and some of the ex students are there when they close down the school, but it's still going. So it's aimed across the rest of Canada. And I have not learned off by heart, which its category is but it's something like the longest school it's still in use, as it started in 1885. And it's still being used today wasn't used all the time. So it's the word continuous use would not be appropriate. But there's some other clever word that they can throw that in the past to be proud. So then, from 1951 onwards, all the children who were educated on Saltspring Island went to the aptly named consolidated school where they consolidated all the finances, all the teachers, all the facilities or and they have buses and all sorts of buses, developing transportation between all the areas of Saltspring and as I've got On through it, I keep recognizing, oh, look, there's another road that's come in because of a school. So the schools brought in transportation between different areas. I should imagine this one really neat made the vehicle traffic kinds of roads, the more developed better. We've that was a century shift. They're wonderful. So those are the schools that we have today. These are the I have not mentioned any of the private schools because there are just as many private schools as they were one room schoolhouses with Justice rich stories to tell recently, not private schools on Fox. And Fernwood could adopt the Northeast school. That's an elementary could adopt Central School and gangs have a school and high school could adopt the chicken house. And while middle school and high school would have to adopt the chicken house, so they fall for them, and she would adopt it and adopt all three. It could adopt these appointments at any point as well as the vote on May School serves as their previous catchment areas at the very least. So one island for 80 years, eight school districts and so many ethnic origins, which I haven't touched on as we went through, but here you are, on this evening, can you all see that their faces well enough to see the variety of ethnic origins, it does tell you that that amongst the very first settlers service, black families that came, they first teacher on the island was black, then they were also European people, not just all from England, Scotland and Wales. So not British and Ireland. So not British, but European, there was Portuguese, there were Scandinavian. And then there were the kidnappers from down south from Hawaii. And those those European ones settled down. And as governor Douglas, advise them to do settle down and take an Indian woman for your wife, because that way you'd actually survive and so would you children, but she'd know what to do, to harvest loot, and get through the, through the different seasons, so that they came from mixed origins. And he also had lots of Japanese children. A lot of a big Japanese community of people growing and there were Japanese laborers, I think throughout there were just like cheap labor who worked really hard for less pay. But there were also business business kind of Japanese who set up the big greenhouses and were very much a part of the agricultural production of Saltspring Island. And so you'll see one of those and then I know there was also and his children who had Chinese they're the only Chinese children that I know of, but he did have five what this is that's on the inside aren't there yet. So if there are any Chinese children there, then that's news to me and I have to go hunting. The laborers, lots of Chinese laborers, cooks for logging camps and bass and fishing camps, things like that. Of course, they're coming just across the Pacific to get here. But that's a lovely photograph of the different varieties or getting on together. And this Gale story that she told me someone she wants to tell it yourself Gail

Speaker 2 19:02
does the teacher thing I've talked about growing up myself and when she got into grade 10 They started with a different ethnic people is looking at this picture book with black people want

Unknown Speaker 19:20
to be like to have some of them in a class. It wasn't till a few days later, she realized well, someone fell over there was black. Just haven't noticed

Speaker 1 19:37
didn't distinguish themselves with adjectives like that

Speaker 1 19:47
this is a lovely page from I think it's the 90 No two sort of brochure that would have come up from the chamber of commerce between people back then that's that time if that was what the morphin school like, that was what the Central School look like, that was what the design school look like. This is what could be the point look like that here's the spiffy new south end is going to be everybody else suddenly making money by producing this thing. And that's very excellent. And the others, I can see they have a sort of, there are plans in the BC archives for school houses. And you can see those they supplied sort of to windows and the door. They are actually all the different lengths and heights. I've counted all the boards and then vector. The basic idea was that it seems to me that they always chose to build them on a sloping site, but the divide is on the very slope and same thing with that one. And there's a very, actually, I don't think it's the very first schoolhouse that John Craven gents taught in but it was the very first proper schoolhouse they built. It was big enough to be their community hall. And it's far enough back that you can see that the transportations a wagon for fine ox. And that's Edward Hansen's wagon. And they look as if they come to school, and I haven't found anything to confirm that. But that's another whole I could give you a whole two hour lecture just on how children got to school with wonderful pictures. The work to that tonight than that John Craven Jones who I've also tried to refrain from talking about saying, Oh, my back, I can't read it whichever way I say without any pain for 10 years to say without any pay for 10 years to teach school one must be something or a full. Across your words with your performance is feeling. John C. Jones was neither he was a teacher. And that's after terminals tribute to all teachers or staff that they they work regardless of the pay as it were like John Craven Jones in particular. So he arrived with the first settlers already trained and already experienced with two years of teaching in an all black primary Elementary School. In the States, in a family that was born into slavery, his father bought them all out of slavery, sometimes by sofa, because the owner was not honest. And then he put them through, he put all five of his six sons through Oberlin College, Ohio, he was passionate about education was Alan Jones, stone paving Jones father. And I've spent ages just I've just loved it enough and get very romantic about what's possible. But the more and more that I'm finding out the more it's actually true that he obviously did pass on his passion for education to his children, they all became passionate about education passed on to their children, who did the same again. So there's, it's gone down through Oberlin College was wonderful in 1833, it set up business to educate the world, it was sort of like a hippie back to the basics, get some land back in the 1830s. And just sort of confused and thinking, Oh, but when I was young, I thought we were the first and the only ones who did things like that. They were very idealistic. And they, they had equality for women, and equality for black people, and equality for the poor in education. They made their university admit all those three, to be given an equal education and the poor and the ones who didn't have enough money work for four hours in the morning to build a university around them. They decided to start before they actually had the building. They had so much faith. And they discovered that that made the intellectual learning fact I'm now talking about John Craven Jones and it makes working for four hours first thing in the morning made the young people learn better the rest of the day than the ones who hadn't worked for four hours in the morning. So for many years after that, Oberlin College Ohio made working late hard labor stick in the morning mandatory because it helps the brain to take in information better now often pays a chance and Oberlin College Ohio. This is to help you to know where the schools are the location and what kind of people were there. This is Central Hall before it's got all of its additions. It's the same building, just the core of it. And that's jail. Here is the new school building. And for about two years, something like that in the middle was the log of building there. And they still let in that to the side to make this. And then while this was being made, they still met in the old school log house that children will go to school in that one. So the school was built before 1896. The Central School and they have a very mixed, that's where the black people had farms run that area of Central School. And John Craven, Jones taught children that roll black first because they were the only families who arrived with children. The others arrived as bachelors who took wives and then eventually had children come to John Pavan Jones of all stripes. And that Central School app I can't remember which takes up on that, but it's worth getting passed around about. And here is showing you where the black farms were settled. So there's winds down here, as well as up there. But mostly the rest of it all along here. And in fact, these ones here, drift over to the side more in the middle. So that was black settlement area there. No, sir. No, they came and went too much in between their 10 year apart. Census things. There were there were certainly 21 Black families all married with one of them married to a white woman. Henry Henry William Robinson was not was born in Bermuda. He was freed before everybody asks a British free their slaves in 1830, something rather beautiful. And he was when he arrived on Saltspring island he arrived with to hit the first of his many more children. And his wife who was 11 years older than him an Irish Catholic while he remained a Methodist. And yeah, she's a white. So I'm fascinated. And we know that because one of the local visiting preachers or ministers noted that just remarked on that he wasn't particularly racist at all didn't notice particularly. Otherwise. It he wrote about it, because Mrs. Linacre said she couldn't possibly go and sit in the same room with those kinds of people. And she wouldn't send her two children to school, those kinds of people either, but they didn't last longer than two years on Saltspring. That family that did arrive as they came from Australia, and they were British, with two children, small children, and they left before 1862. So who knows why his daughter in law says it was because he was not a fairly handyman that she had problems with her stepfather. So I don't really know, begs thought he was wonderful. And banks could have known, I don't know. Anyway. So now you're going to go through some slides and I can be quiet other than telling you the children. Before they came to school in the morning, they did chores for their families. That was all normal. When they were at school, they did chores in school, they were the janitors on their way home, they did things like fishing and collecting food, berries, all of that stuff. And then they did some more chores. So we've gone through the archives to find children doing their chores, and they don't overwork this is all we've got to prove what a terrible awful arduous love fit was the child and what's been happening somewhere else. That said, No, the black community off the hook isn't wonderful characters. On softly. That's an authentic school with Katie Furness, the teacher up there. Mixture of races they're taking school on Burgoyne Bay, and her family farmed in Burgoyne Valley. And that's an author in school. They're having a terrible hard time there too.

Speaker 1 29:49
Every time you see the North End school, you're likely to see the entire Samsung. They had 13 children first and then the eldest of their 13 had another 14 children. But even that the sexes because the first slot had 11 sons and two daughters, the next slot had 11 daughters the other way round first slot, and Lucy had 11 daughters and two sons and one of those sons had 11 sons and three daughters or something like that. So they made fences. There's lots of mention of the children making fences. This is a farm that still you can see all the logging need help with the lobby. Elizabeth Hutchinson logged four feet diameter trees at the age of 12. To meet Elizabeth Hutchinson, Elizabeth Sampson, mother of all those sons. wonderful person. Her tapes lovely. It could have been even more so but remarkable person. So this is the little Dublin Bay. The Queen Valley log schoolhouse. Those are the guys who put it together. This is the kind of community that the Burgoyne babies serving son. This is the crew that is going to do away with their dark, tiny little log house and beat North Enders hollow with your school building. And there it is. I think they won. It was also for the Fall fairs because the fall fairs were held there too. So what happened that building that building is still there, it doesn't look a bit like that. But it is sort of bits of it have gone on. They took 10 Take all of that verandas away. And here's your Hawaiian community. And it's the Roman Catholic Church down for food. And lots and lots of Hawaiians settled down Isabella point on on Portland Island, Russell island called island. They came in from as far away as Porton down because their children were rowing all the way across and Portland Island through those heavy seas and and would pull their boats up on on the beach down at the end of men Henyk road and then there wasn't then hit road. They're still they just hiked through tradies property till they got to the point school and then they did the whole thing again after school. At some point, their parents thought maybe that's a bit much. And they moved slightly closer to Russell Island. Didn't mean they stopped growing and pulling up on shore and hiking through the woods. But

Unknown Speaker 32:44
first, just enough to tell us when metro was brought in from Fountain Valley or wherever it was, the better.

Speaker 1 32:51
The Catholic Church the bell was brought in. We might remember when the bell was there. In 87. The church itself was really far back. It was first in 8582 8480 to 85 Oh, yes. Well, that was pretty early, I guess for the churches. 1885 Yes. model on the third camp on Vancouver Island.

Unknown Speaker 33:24
Cayman ports.

Unknown Speaker 33:26
Well loved her camp. I mean, I think the doors and windows came nobody church. But we saw the butter trip coming around in the 60s 90s is still

Unknown Speaker 33:39
here, what's the relationship that's all? Oh,

Unknown Speaker 33:42
it's moved away from the area where it was in function

Unknown Speaker 33:52
in Duncan,

Unknown Speaker 33:55
and stuff installed here it is still there. As far as I know. Mine is its doors and windows.

Speaker 1 34:03
And this I was going to tell you about the those Indian rights they took as a wife so that they could their children would survive. And so what they are these are some lovely movies here. She's known as granny drives down in the Burgoyne Valley. Susannah tribute. Lucy picks them up at the north end. So she's out of the trade. He's down in the point areas, and Lucy beats and ends up in Fernwood area, and I couldn't find the picture that time of Maria Malloy, but she's half Indian half Hawaiian woman. And they I could sort of give a mini lecture not a two hour lecture on the influence of those kinds of women. But I'd add Emily veredus to that I'd add Mrs. Griffith so some remarkable women around that I've enjoyed finding out about oh, there's Maria Maria. Like he'll

Unknown Speaker 35:06
just get stories told about mostly

Speaker 1 35:16
one of them Emily bed is lost her husband when he's just 14 had lots of children, and was a, she's a white woman. And she was very much a midwife, which they all were. But never married again. Whereas ones like me and my wife married again and again, went through quite a number of husbands and just a real variety. This is the the flight school. That's at the end of its first year of operation, trying to remember the basis on which I picked it, pictures. And this is the Hawaiian Isabella, point, Hawaiian plus, it's not that they were anywhere only one ethnic background, it's just that it was Isabella point that the Knapp is in, the majority chose first to be and then there was intermarriage and moving around the island. So it's, it's not like they were isolated in that way. And you can see that as lots of either intermarried or English and Scots and European things. These are the x teachers of beaver point, when the the point close, they came to the ceremonies there. And and here is the story of the primary school. And why school that had one community of people, that my community of children that would go to the schools that the schools kept closing, one would close, and almost children go to this school and the school district would open. And then that one would close, and it all come down here and I'm just interested in the schools, but I ended up having to find out what's happening. And it's that sort of thing was like that, there'd be a whole lot of development of farming things here and then the farming would go, it would be too difficult for them that they take that logging, but then that would also be too difficult for them or the war would come along. And then the whole community would just become old people without children. And here we'd be where the in lots of children and community building was happening. So they went back and forth. But they they were the same enrollment. I mean, the same families going to many same families going to so I'm very fond of that lot. Oh, yes, of course, I'm supposed to tell you all that. That's why I've got it there. They weren't that rougher element. That the the new comics who came in at 85 with the railroad that came all the way across Canada. So a lot of British people came at that point. And they they did not want their children to mix with the rosette element of the divided school. And when I look at some of the school photographs, and believe me, they're private school children look like the rapper element. And he's beautifully dressed, dressed up for the school photograph. It's quite funny to see them all packed on the steps in their pure white lace dresses are supposed to be the rougher element. All girls, all in lathes. And this is the cranberry district. This is the divide in the cranberry families having a picnic together. That's how many families with young children lived up there back then, when I was first here, that was would have been absolutely astonishing to me, because hardly anybody lived there except old fogies. Now there's a whole lot of young people moved up into that area who are trying to farm and garden and things like that. So it's quite interesting to see how it still still continues to be like that these waves in and out. But that's quite a sizable group of people for that rugged area. And this is that you may recognize that that's the front of the Roman Catholic Church on paper. And this is lesson two. So that's your, your Ganges. Crowd. People love seeing this sort of thing, photograph sweat, there's a lot of personality faces. And then I start to recognize someone and know them as older men. Young women with history so that's that picture. And I chosen that picture of course, because they all had outhouses. That is two boys, one for the boy. That's right. Thank you. So they had to up house. It's always so no running water No. Nothing like that. Christina and this is the chicken house. High School, your older crewing manual. Two teachers, yes, that shows how close they are between them. Thank you, thank you. And there is just one class of the consolidated school. And I don't need it. We don't seem to have in the archives a photograph of the entire enrollment of the consolidated school, there are too many for them to photograph all at once. They tend to be just the classes but they're pretty big classes. Now that they've consolidated. Often at Beaver point and the north end you'll see a class only about seven and a divide. So I can see why they felt why the government wanted to close them up. How do you get to school in the morning, this is the school bus. Sentence version anyway. And that's despite the inside of the log cabin school. Like that actually looks a lot lighter than the ones they describe on assault. That's not a salt not known to be a Salt Spring Island when I see children helping each other. They did have to look after the siblings see quite a lot of large families. Certainly the five and a family if not 14 and 13. Yeah, that the hope the Indian mothers tended to be able to take care of that many I suppose are just used to having that many children and so were the Hawaiians. So they had huge the huge families milking the cow who's is being very polite and not interrupting with how inappropriate some of my photographs but it worries me that we haven't got anybody else. Here. Oh, yes, that was for want of them rowing. It can move across any more rowboat anywhere. We could make that more impoverished and they had to row logs across from Portland Island or that they're just messing around and watching the chickens seems I grew up like this. This was my childhood. I come from a family of eight. I'm the eldest. I love my younger ones around. Is that is that? My that's one fun. Yeah. And then you've got your other. That's the bullet and the different kinds of school. It's not schooling he's training them for service. They're orphans and strays and this is the furnace family summer news. Katie furnace went on to be a really good teacher very much loved where she taught on Saltspring. Back to the central log, the first schoolhouse. Ah, Jim Anderson, lovely man. Now the whole one whole session on that of the splendid person Jim Hanson. We've got we've got a child in a rowboat and because that's a grins

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not cows gonna teach you what to do. She looks like a yearling to me not Milka yet. Is practicing

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the puppies a large number of these photographs just come from two families did photograph their children. It's great fun. Growing up on Saltspring

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Oh, that's right. We'll win and Well I know that when family took photographs of their children but they didn't take photographs and working so I don't know whether we've got many blends in here they're probably mostly those photographs the Green family their surnames green, black family they were mostly more like teenagers that are in all the photographs more like 12 1314 And sometimes it's just the Samsung family there they are. Looks like a whole school outing

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I love that picture of taking care of my younger one because look at the state of the young she's been taking more care of her bear so yes, arduous pioneer school days. But they were these photographs that lie

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Oh, they just pulled their rowboat up onto the shore. This is my fantasies for you. But I could just tell you lies and say they just rode all the way across on the other side, which is nowhere near as far as Portland Island. And they are heading up to school looking after the younger ones. And your thing school bonus. Okay, so the next thing I'm going to do is either you get up wander around if you want to. And you can see how I teach with I've made class dolls and collected all the things that they needed to be in John Craven gender school so you can see every time to hold them up. This is this is my portraits of JT in guns before I actually got a photograph of him looks much more like some kind of Italian dancer than it is I wish the bad scenes. He hasn't met good introduction from himself, saying who he is, as the best teachers entrepreneur did have a top hat. And he taught for 11 years without being paid. Funds fans would they have helped him out. Hopefully fun things like that. And he was criticized by the install inspectors very badly. And I've been criticized by the students. Myself, my favorite quote was, there's too much reading. Children are all reading all the time. I didn't know what to do. But he got criticized for something that you might think was bad and that is that he was discovered to be teaching Latin grammar to one of his students. And student was a backwards barefoot, barefoot backwards child, child. And but the reason why he was teaching Latin grammar was he was probably also teaching Greek and all the old philosophers is probably teaching Euclid to the highest degree of mathematics known to man back then. Because Oberlin College Ohio did not believe in giving women an education that was below equal. And if you've not believed in giving the black community and education that was anything other than equal to the highest that could be found in the mother country back in England. And so it had to be the classics. So that's what he got taught. I know all the subject matters he went through for four years at Oberlin College. And, and as well as that, just the idealism of you go out there and teacher and fund become equal and give them an education they can go, they can do great things, they can go farther. Don't settle for anything less than in quantity. So I feel like he instilled that and he there's a fair bit of proof that I haven't got everything yet because every time I find one bit that we find a time of great spin doctor. But Emma stop the daughter of the app, the first child and understood her Sylvia Stark, who was born in slavery and taught herself to read in slavery, and was one of the first settlers here on Fox Spring Island and her descendants still live here and Indian sins you is one of them. Her eldest child and daughter, Emma went to school with John Peyton Jones. And as soon as she graduated from the highest grade they had back then she went over to Nanaimo, with her family. And she started teaching there in the first school at Cedar Hill to start saving. And it seems that all of the reports on her were of good education that she was given. So I'm going to credit John Craven Jones might well have been Soviets herself to read, which was a bit of both. And there's other things as well, that when I went through the census, and they have one little column where you tick whether they're literate or not, and the early census material, and I was really surprised at Saltspring islands ticks, so surprised that I thought that the person who was going round in numerating, everybody must just have been unable to follow a column straight. Because back in those days, I would not have expected the people on Saltspring Island or to be literate. But there's two reasons for it. One is that the black families that arrived tended to be most literate, the most highly educated settlers. And ultimately, there were white people who were highly educated as well. But many of them didn't need to be back in the States. Certainly not on when they're going to the Gold Rush, and then finding some real cheap land to settle that. So they had the parents who wanted the children to learn. You had John Craven, John's teaching them for 15 years. I feel like I can say, Hey, be proud of John Cleese. You've got it's a good story at the very least. Now there is at right at this moment, I'm in contact with people who are researching the Jen's family itself not changed on Cleveland Jones. He has a remarkable older brother with remarkable children that his older brother had had four daughters, three of them became renowned teachers, the fourth one became a renowned teacher, and then fourth one as well try and be a doctor. So she became first fully qualified and practicing black as female physician in the United States. And he was so proud of his daughter, maj did the same kind of thing became really into politics. And children. Going down from that he just had three children. And I only know about March at the moment, and her daughter, Margaret. And they're very much involved in elections and things with descendants now. So and that's elections to try and get eventually a black president in United States. So they've got idealism that stays through centuries. I feel like I can make up that jump at it too. But I am also actually historian and I do know where to, to confess that I'm spinning. So the children are sitting at various kinds of I've got this display to teaching ordinary elementary schools looking at children's schools. And I have the different kinds of desks that they had, they sat on the floor, and worked. But actually it's to tell about my childhood because I grew up in women's school. That this one is before reading. In cultures that don't have reading, they they read a box is a journal. This is her mother's memoirs. A beautiful object in here had a story with it. That's how oral history was passed down. And each one of these things is an incident in that mother's life that she learned a lesson from that she wants to pass on to the children. So she has her box instead of a book. And then very excited. One first time but some crazy Jones would have been using to teach the children how to read. It's all there. Hmm, thanks for stopping by. Check other one we've got this one. Here it is not that much. So he's an 1860s My life beyond that think you're all talking about come across these things that we're teaching you. And then I thought So I've got a whole collection in the song, my theme of warfare last year, I had a collection of writing instruments through the ages. So it's starting off with getting a quill to write with the pen maker. And then the kinds of things we have some dip meetings, they kind of dipped it into the inkwell, I've got an ink burning on the desk. And the things that you use to wipe your pen with, yes, they tend to dip into the input just like mine, no doubt knows to read through all of that simplicity. Absolutely. Yeah. That's great fun to find little ones should be starting. And of course, the way that the pencil boxes been before paper sleeves. So this, this is unfortunately a fix late in the middle, I did have your sleep, I actually grew up writing on sleeps, because we couldn't afford to pay just erase the slate.

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And this one is a double sleeve. So that you can take your work home, and it won't get erased, as you just carry on with your arm. So the wrapping on the outside the big one, which is three times as big as this, you can still have all the work that you've been doing. And if you've put slate pencil inside it can lead to that like that. Sleep

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to convert these past kindergarten

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some of you might recognize your composition books, there's this one is turn of the century, but they last a long time I have composition books look just like that. I'm 59, by the way, with the context the kinds of things that worked hard for me was get a card. And I might be holding that one weeks, my visions and what to what the event is, then awards, beautiful rewards. And this is creating 50s 1860s I think probably all the way through to the 1900s. So use these kinds of things to Sir, to get children to work harder, that will warm this world order. And then when I publish a book, I make a little one, the best history of Performance Institute talking results when I look all about their history. And then once I have a lunch, actually, the children will mess these up completely. So this doesn't have the lunch from the First Nations mother in it at the moment, but they do have the lunch from First Nations mother. So there's things like fruit, leather, and seafood that's been dried and salted. Just with Brian. There's content this one happens to have a loaf of bread. Not very close. That's impossible. And then I have the Stanley eautiful Scandinavian wood, wood burning wood should work

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must have liked twigs and the other ones are sausages instead into a cloth. Cheese. Onion. Yes, that's a lump of old dried bread and sausage, some cheese and all that kind of food. In the black children, they really should have an overhead when they came in and did their chores firsthand. The school what they have to chase out with stuff like this. I've got those. There are frogs and lizards and bugs and spiders and everywhere in my school placing 60s Because they mentioned this about school days. Old days all these cool people being interviewed tend to remember the stories about the day that they chased the fog around the classroom lizard that got into something. So this character they've gotten themselves and their apple from the apple trees and I can conceive the most relevant It's, oh, there's pie, grapes. And some cookies, cause this particular child, that's one of the not yet literate of pen. I don't know if you know that slaves didn't talk. Right will be educated at all. It was to be feared education is so dependent on children, once who's escaped from slavery and came up to Canada, the mothers would depend on the children to get the education for them. So this is the story of one that taught her mother how to read by showing them how to form the letters after cookie dough. And her mother showed her that she had learned the most important word already because she said a little girl to school with kids don't ask me if it's a true story or not, but it's a story. It's a story that persists. So there is an L and a B and then II was put into her lunch kit to show her that she's been successful so there's a Scottish boy who's helping

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Scots in BC because they were having a really hard time back in Scotland being thrown off their own land being turned into sheep land. We came up here

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like that Scandinavian girl

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people throughout the Saban Center, the Oberlin College in Ohio so when they came to school they had chores to do they brought the wooden from the woodshed and they chopped it up and fit into their school stoves. Actually make them what they cost rather a lot of money $300 1/3 size not working stone that they've they've chopped the wood they call water and go to the well. What's the last Tony Bennett will tell you all about going to the well to fill up the pail the divide school where I have my properties and there's more traffic the bucket that was the washing your hands so this teaches inspectable fingernails and for drinks for washing the janitor work and the buckets and the depth of brush on the broom that I have lost to sweep and get rid of all those creatures have been spilled every day.

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The the interviewer washing hands

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with bowl and just

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pour them water and then on the way home from school, they had their jobs to go collect food it said they were fishing for a lottery location if you want to see it, and this date and all kinds of things. And I haven't found any new crabs and things like that yet, but then when they got home, you have to feed on the animals. And Elizabeth Sampson Hutchinson, which is a child tells the story of how she came from when she was 12 because her sister would come here and then settled with her husband and two small children. Were at the top of Mount Maxwell. And they had found a very isolated what's it like

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But that's where they were just

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a little bit sister, a sister's husband and two little children. They got word that the husband had shot himself accidentally in the dark.

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There she is isolated talking about that sort of two small children tasting toys in the X work team houses that it's to come out and help her so your mother When's little Elizabeth page 12 out here. And whoever could find the place that they're somewhat alarming and simply basically freaked up, and it's not really that much use to the family. And it just simply takes me she never says her mother's never says a bad word about from other neighbors too. But she just takes it on looking after two children and grandmother, so that her sister can work in Victoria, to get the money that they need for things like find your pig. So Elizabeth Yes, when the levers that you can't, if you don't have a shovel, why, if you can't handle heavy workload of shoveling, pushing, chopping trees down, and actually she doesn't do it by herself, she waits for her sister to come back and then the two of them are gonna cross cut so that she's chopping through that four foot diameter lock to keep them warm through each quarter. And they're slowly and four and a half feet deep for three months of the year. And then absolutely, so she has to prepare her mind and everything ahead of time. But then also she makes these fences around where she's chopping trees down, keeps the pig fenced in when the pig is routed up on Earth enough that she can plant some vegetables in it. She makes another fence attached to that puts the pig in there. Now she's got these needs it fenced off from the pig so it won't be taxed with it. And she did just fine that way. So I was carrying my head around in case the children end up missing. What's her surname Elizabeth This is a stamp similar to much like Chester Sampson and she had the 11 sons which all came up I'm not sure that they were all exactly the same height but their hair stylist is asking photographs together. There are nine men standing here Elizabeth and Chester sitting on chosen blank lines and all completely sort of vertical capsule cutters. This means the piano player there's nine there then there's two more boys here and then there's the two daughters asymmetrical and then you see them with all their children their children's children then the children children the sense family just stretches so wide and far assesses Chester What about all the sisters brother

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prevented from this the widow walking he said and she said the flow going to talk to the mountain really all we need to get

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the powerful and milk in the car in the morning butter and clean and horse if you are really rich and paying much much later metric 60 You've got your horse hosted right work working animals at the venue relaxing the labor so the wealthy and this will fence them they wandered they didn't have fields of pay so they just browse through somehow because look like something that a cow got to eat they seem to survive and then here's all the things that have gone on after the day went we'll take the gun and shoot birds collecting food and then there's king will collapse in oil making all the candles for winter time to beat the runway doesn't want to use lots of grasshoppers and things like that and it's

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essential chore the ice cream maker which this one actually makes ice cream

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and then I don't know how many of you remember this but boy did I ever spent a lot of money on this thing

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not that many families actually did this that Tony Stark definitely never was close to be had in. stores to go to this laptop now wants to

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know oh Excellent. Okay, so now six, I'm absolutely sure you need to move

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I didn't predict a wonderful crowd, they told me that the seventh. So I have the supplies of things like colored pencils, scissors and glue for seven. And you don't have to make them up. But if you'd like to try, I'll tell you why. I have found that when I join in with the children, I can see why I was trained as a high school teacher. I was trained to teach English to examination, that graduation examination standard. So when I taught six, seven and eight year olds, I had faintest idea how you begin at the beginning of the semester takes into account, like their own moon, read a book. I've never been trying to do anything like that. And they taught me. And I was stunned at small children, how much they love to learn. But when you do something like this, which is that I tell them a whole lot. I read from the book a whole lot, right? Answer their questions a whole lot. If they then went away, and did something like trying to make an app, which they could take home and put on their bedroom wall, which they would then look at. And so it would go in slowly over the weeks that went by after that. It's fascinating if you do it yourself, to find how many times you go over and over what you didn't take in during that lecture there. That's all show. Oh, well know which which one is that you put here? What was the name of that teacher, I really liked that story. But who was which, because I've given you way too much information. And if you actually just try even just to pile the pictures up together, like make a pack of north in school pictures, like a pack of one for each school area or something like that, or anything you've recognized as opposed to anything you don't recognize. Who can begin to see what you would like to learn a bit more about or what you want to ask me a question about. So if you'd like to cut, I'll show you what I have for you. I have the map without the school sites on it. That's the cheat sheet we have to do is come up here and find it. Or if I was teaching old fashioned method, I would say everybody pick up your yellow pencil enough so we've all got the yellow pencil. Now ready? We are going to start with find Fulford harbour now find both of Ganges rope put your finger on it. So obviously you've all got that. And we go through all at the same pace. I don't enjoy that very much because nobody's ever going the same pace. But I could tell you where they all were, it seems simpler to me if you just don't cheat. Don't look. Copy it. So, I have come in have you got? Oh yes, we've got enough for one inch. We wanted

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if you want to all you all that you would have to do if you were trying to do something, just to find all the school sites and put them in with a circle. On online, they're in yellow, and they are written around with a blue pen to make a circle. I have colored in, I've always had to color in when I'm dealing with the children and coloring the lakes with blue first, because otherwise they think it's a park or something. This strings are not on your map, but I put them on mine. Because I also teach children that there isn't a lake without an outlet. They're just mapmakers who don't put the and and it's frequent that the roads follow along on that. So this is not on that map. The stream that goes down here, but it to history, it's pretty crucial because that's the dividing line between one Indian group and another Indian groups harvesting right? And yet they're all settled along borderline and they don't fight and get to see okay. You could just roll around the map. I don't know how many of you already know the map of Saltspring like the back of your hand. If you will no such thing really well, not at all. You look worried to be fantastic. If you don't know enough, it's not. And you can choose what we want to do that, which is to find this one here. That one there. See, I haven't done my map enough to have put my bit of string from here to two there is it to there to show you which one it belongs with. But I have put them close by and I could just quickly go and get a pen and do it for you that I don't need to do it with pins and string all that I can just draw on it for you. But I can also tell you

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and you can also get up and down. Because I would because I haven't gotten enough supplies, you could put four desks together and then share the supplies because I've only got set for three sets of four as it were. But if there's lots of people who don't want to do it, then you could be someone who likes to hoard.

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And then I've also got this back here I printed while my printer is letting me so I can't promise you they're the same pictures that we used in the slides. Or hopefully

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Yes, yes, every photograph perception the inside of the lock cabinets

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I could just tell you that they're here there's three pages

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would be one person and then three pages the next person is club sets to help and help yourself to just three different looking pages and I'd have put on them before you chop them up. I've given them the clues because I've said which school they belong to before I put a line across but then you have to be very organized and stack them up together and not lose track probably but I'll recognize all the things people ask me more I can come around and give you a gold star in gold star if you don't know that you're still looking cheerful. Okay, so there's that many pictures to choose from. But you don't need to use all of them. You could decide you just want to do a picture just the schoolhouse preacher or just a community feature or you could just make a nice sort of mix lots of children and I have

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I thought blue pins for water red pins the road to share one between two so I could pass them to sue and Sue would take one and pass it back or you could or I could insist that you find partners or something like that and I did bring paintbrushes that I forgot to bring the paint starts you off with was

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where's the scissors? Oh, I got five scissors. too badly. Be interested in Yes.

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you want me to

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if you're a teacher, I'm quite happy to visit my daughter you have the appropriate

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And I'm quite happy to show you around the website there are lessons I've taught in sort of similar grade level for the last three or four years and I've known about the website because I know people that have done some Western passport early access to it yet okay, so I thought this year doing some of the historical things that I would kind of give myself a push to do that but I'm I'm thinking that I'm not sure what to write on anything right now put it up I don't want to go home and look at it and do a nice job

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or do something and I was timing I tried to tie myself well it took me more than two hours

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this laptop to speak

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like you could visit my house or

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place using the lesson plans and then some fish show you what was there when somebody who knows it already knows what to do

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with the ask if they weren't using the same name then they find these telephone numbers would like to get away I always have a few kids in the class whose family's

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restaurant right I didn't bring pencils for the race.

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good. Okay. First goal was simply sticks. Now if you did cut them out was my tip to children is that they would draw a circle where they belonged. They'd put a symbol there I put BB for Burgoyne and on the back each

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pointer device come through and

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there is there is on the website is my presentation. Let me start with society this school districts and I'm wondering which they can be spoken and there is a picture of them that you can look at. They can go and listen to me so number four I wrote it down actually, I've got here's my binder.

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And at the same time as as the same time. No. Well, he taught always John K rezones. To teach North Central. He would walk with Teach for three days at one and three days at the other and was deeply criticized by the inspector, but he's walking through their forest and Cougar infested that they wanted the children to do the

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terrorists have to go up to the north end. Today's lesson teaching Oh really? Oh, yes. You okay. He got quiet days. All

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right. Nice parents wanted him to have that's the Harrison never Oberland rock. I'm very interested.

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and west of the bottom

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years names on our title on our lungs.

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Yeah. And when we were shuttling we saw I guess it was grandfather promises I don't know whether it was a mortgage or something being paid off better has a furnace Harrison's father I guess it was John was one of the signer one of the witnesses because we were in pubs and it took us two and he pulled this stuff out from Saltspring Island. Wow, yeah. Amazing

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this binder goes through in the correct order that there's an awful lot of pages in between it's just my rough copy so it's

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just another education

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it's just the school it's no it's the schools itself all districts and that's where we're all these

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and then why were they separated then it begins that was the first ones number two to have the spot one that looks like it was number two two school districts. So that's burgling very

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windy three school district

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school district and Dubai King used to be talking sometime after a practice on the ground Victoria afternoon when they paid the teacher was previously they didn't make petitioners films I

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guess later on because when the timers were here standing timber divided area that was family

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every school on the island that has

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the Chromebooks for a couple of years came back down the trip that was because of the time though. The kids just slept in tents. They had that house and Ganges but lived in tents garnished

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you wanting to ask who founded Oberlin College? lightened group there were about three very young men with families trying to remember where they were they got taken over rather quickly. They've been dreaming it up for a long time. They have a religious affiliation with a religious affiliation of not going by the religious affiliation

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yeah

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Back to Basics was

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the chicken house I had a blanket up

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got nothing it might be that I'm thinking that it

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was that was an elementary school or

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so. So you are in one of these two consolidated?

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My house somewhere

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with chickenpox was the last one.

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On name is Steve

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the last

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that or is it okay you're still on it was mark on the road it was Mrs Hammond top marks in

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the same

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class still answer

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also

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great warm

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up community feed because I got

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to ask

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mine was a steel town

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just before you turn right

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there is a shed

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passenger drive where they're going because they're going up hill stop to actually see where the property line could have been in in lots of bits construction

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cadastral files in the archive

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I know exactly where it is I know on the map a lot is on the property lines but it's hard to tell it keeps shifting the road

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yeah

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they just drift I'm gonna have to get these Laurie I appreciate that

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there were other rulings that we're using Oh

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yeah. High School before it got into the new measures which was a big

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approval at Borough Hall was

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just like four weeks before grapegrowers he was like

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the ball well that was

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set up was quite

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nice because I think to me

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over and over

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again on down she said brother Sharon is still there

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she said that upstairs

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partly Caesar families Mary Mark was there but then she moved here so last because school

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setting students is like better or

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not better than water so it's not there in a filthy so this is somebody who asked her to come up with it no longer for me So

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we tried to go down the stairs

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I guess you're ready to sit

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down there's about spraying the population it was impossible to have a poster

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and ask your mother

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because we're all stories there was quite a population there in different times it would have been closer to me it will be calculated properly if anyone wants your school would have been across tonight as well

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yeah

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for kids I mean I've got

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one in four years now 18 Just got

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secretary and he's the only vote he ever talks about going by film out for America

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so Betancourt

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it isn't very clear or wonder

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probably got some

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Mr. Wilson This

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to look for regularizing snapshots in situations and

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how you should go in saying that you're able to live up to the angle of your

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this repetition machine to help us

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out not

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too late

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has horses on their fields. So ours are not going

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to find out

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last quarter of a quarter afternoon, people that will work as far as well. They would turn it rather than organize

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anything that

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I've never read it as informed by story. Quarry and said I don't know why they would pick the data. For me By the last

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day we're still

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very early but my name is

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us newspaper clippings that happened yesterday and they were coming through your life and Ireland

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came along and took them away

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the father's carrying the water was about to carry on

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but he does is that they come from came in they voted for us although on another story Cory versus all anybody that was

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originally from the stone countries some of the reports you use not only been

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because I didn't know anybody that works

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yeah I don't know who was doing the actual blast and the

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reason is even the remnants of the Oreo right something shattered shattered I have not yet to go ahead and reopen the episode like you still see the star in the volume where

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there were has really no remember the secret wedges

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like curious I mean I'm just trying to see like without any but when you imagine like an Eric our kind of just some bands

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that may have been the latest car I

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think maybe connection What was that

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like some kind of exam for me is doing a Friday swim effective or maybe pretty Monday trying to revive a

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bird rescue it really

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helps tell you now shopping so first

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of all some water

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drowning we're ready to order now

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you ever been

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so

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what we want to do so just to be on the

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diet for inviting

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me that that was so good. Yeah, absolutely. I remember saying retrieved from the summer wish there

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was a lesson for for humanity Merkel.

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was a school at one time 100.

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Churches now, it was built as a school. In fact, we have our Blueprints in the archives

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that functioned as a school for quite a while.

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So from 25 to 40. From 1917 to 2014 Cisco firewall. The blueprints are in here they just added on to that again to the best of luck

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next time

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you want to go Sawsan. Oh yes. I mean it

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was just like close by here.

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Close by Monday between manhole and and

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that is gone. Yes. That

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wasn't really built to look so nice.

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They must have done a good job building. Yeah. taken very good care of it. Yes. Yeah

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then I think now we're into private schools telson. So many of them in my binder is definitely not up to date. I decided alright, I have to draw some line somewhere.

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It'd be a full time job keeping it up.

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I love Leonard Tolson, though, he started out by calling the school Ganges private school for boys. And it's half full of girls so that it just is sort of the Ganges private school I mentioned

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27 schools in the very remote

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like a Salt Spring Island or

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his family was from Minnesota, but his parents were missionaries where he grew up and then he was sort of transient for many years. But he just made a connection with the people there and got some backing and has just had remarkable success it's a very interesting story because he's being able to live with them dressed the same way and eat live with the families gotten tremendous from the Pakistani people themselves but and they all the schools that he's built all allow girls just been a tremendous Yeah, wasn't that many years ago here

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teaching he did it because that was his daughter's the littlest one she just wanted to hear your welcome three siblings went to Oberlin high schooler school I have to have I've been I've been in delightful contact with somebody who works in the archives. But I I'm I just love Oberlin now and it's very lattic At the moment it's been cutting edge education again. Always it was so did you go for the music or just an old school? My family was there for

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the free stuff. China

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that when my daughter was in school in Saskatoon and there was a little Indian boy across the alley nobody even looked at his fingernails grow always got great the crop oh this poor old

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because of him because of him so

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we've talked about racism yes you know it's a dirty fingernails

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the roots of this kind of bizarre

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private schools yes well first I have to do the other two courses that this one got scrapped from because thanks Can I have done more slides

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to like finish Phoenix that build our barn only they were before they were Phoenix was one of them. Roger, Eric DOM like

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oh right yes. And they took movies of the building and

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everyone out of bed

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this is how they show up to somebody school and there she is two things sent to them and then she's calling out to them from the bed what they should be doing much wise

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that's quite cool that homeschooling school

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our granddaughters Mrs. Hardy is going

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to a private school much more

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for students they're like the beyond

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the desk boys yes it's

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a very high level as well do not play hockey that's because that's the other story

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all right

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thank you first time Oh you're welcome

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Mark goes in the garbage

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because I have I haven't I haven't asked.

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I guess a restaurant when other people throw stuff out I'm sure they don't have to.

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start putting things in a special way especially except the first one

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myself about that

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and there's always more to take away then Matthew

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well Bucha you

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remember that I actually well it was

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we've done that before

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I didn't make the rounds the postings.

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with you so let's see if we

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can power grid

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and then another way over the other

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I'm Juan and consolidate

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does yeah all right roll up my map how did you do it

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go when I found out who everybody is I could send

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you a short

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yes

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big stars but very small students maybe you can call I think maybe that makes this approachable maybe oh

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oh thank you so much

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it's an unlucky person to get to sit up as well

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I can see Mary Davidson's name

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yes that's Mrs helps you with that

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so one

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that time so I

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came

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in on top of the potential to work

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really well yeah of course

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Oh can I remember this until tomorrow stop things in like the form of heavy doesn't evaluation oh it was bad find out when I get home email arrives and I can email everybody and ask them did you come to see

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love to get loaded

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up on the battle panel

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there's no limit to the week that it can take none with because as a truly heavy I think that that we should let them take advantage of

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this one

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might have to make chips on the other hand that looks good on your

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belly that that's that one more

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what can I do to have everything take my recorder Allah. Oh this is not your

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turn the recorder off now