Jean-Holmes-32.mp3
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24.04.2023
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We had a wonderful time, you were so generous to let us
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enter the diary. And we certainly enjoyed
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a
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wonderful time here.
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I'm gonna give that to you, because you know how that all works, right? So I'm returning to you now.
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So what we can,
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very carefully Chico, these diaries,
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this is the album that I bought from you in this summer.
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And I can't believe it's taken this long, but it
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doesn't matter
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at all in order.
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And what we did Susan and Barbara and I also
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saw the diary, a dreadful time.
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It was so interesting, we really appreciate it, because you shared a bit of
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what you were up to. And it was great. So we sat down, and we thought, well,
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what would be a good question to ask you. And so we wrote up some, so I'm going to do the actual questioning unless someone else wants to jump in.
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And tell you my memory is poor. That's okay.
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Whenever you can remember, you know, there's no pressure on this, you know, it doesn't matter.
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What we'll hope to do.
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But what we will do after we're done with this, whatever we put together, if I told you, you would get a copy of that mp3 And Frank was.
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Returning these now, because I originally gave you a receipt for the books that I took away, right. And so I'm not sure what will happen from this point, whether we'll have to talk to you about that after the interview, what you want to did we are
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definitely.
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I think maybe I have another quick look.
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I think so.
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I don't think
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that would be great. I mean, sometimes
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it's a good did.
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They could go to the archives and access them if they wanted them. Yes. I think the archives is for it. All right.
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There are documents in here, like your service record, and so on and so forth.
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Yep. So
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we can certainly I think that's, that's wonderfully generous.
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Okay. All right. So we're gonna start now.
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That's everybody's email address, so that I made sure we were all in the right place at the right.
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Time.
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Jean, thank you for agreeing to talk with us today. We really appreciate the opportunity to go through the books, and some of your diaries and so on. And because they are such recent diaries, we got very curious. They wondered whether you could tell us a little bit about your childhood in your family, where you grew up, what your community was like when you were growing up.
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I grew up in Manitoba, little village call center.
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And my mother was when
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I had a brother who was older.
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And mother started up a correspondence with Mr. Alec P, who came from Ontario and he was visiting his relatives.
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And he and mother
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eventually decided to get married. So we took the train up to Edmonton first visit my hand and then down to Perth,
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and mother, Mary, Mr. Alexander McKay,
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who was older
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and widower
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and he had three children of my mother's age.
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After mother told me she was marrying
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me so
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you're going into first American I said, You're marrying an old man.
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However, he and I became very good friends.
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He was wonderful. He lived until he was in his 90s
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When
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I went to school,
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there was no high school. So I went three years and ladder contar Island, two years in person.
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Then I went to Ottawa Civic Hospital and 37.
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Graduated
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graduate nurse
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not quite.
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So that was 1940. And of course, you were in the service.
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At first, they weren't accepting nurses at that young age, they would prefer them to be 25. So we had to wait around a few years and I worked hither and thither and
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places like that. And then I went overseas. I joined the service in February of 44.
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And went overseas shortly after
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I came back and 46
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And where were you stationed overseas? I was at Colchester, England.
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And hooray England
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already. And then I went to Oldenburg, Germany for occupation.
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Hospital they're saying hospital.
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That's very interesting.
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And so you came back to Canada in 46. When How and where did you meet your husband Marcus? Well, Marcus was a widower. And I rejoined the service. I was over a little while and I rejoined and had posting still photo tours. Kingston,
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Calgary, and Churchill. And Mark was windward with his two boys 16 and 18.
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So after I left, we were going around together. I was posted to Petawawa. I was the matron of federal
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and he says we got married because the telephone bills got too big.
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So we felt
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that we were married and moved to Edmonton. That was his last posting and he was artillery.
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Very the older the boys was on his own.
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Don came and looked us in Edmonton and went to university there.
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And the two boys do they Well, I guess they're not boys anymore. Their grandfather's
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one
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on lakes road on this side of Duncan.
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And then the other ones in Ontario. Uh huh. So they I see them all. I'm wearing his wife out for for three weeks this summer, and they're coming out again in March.
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And I see Baron Dawn over there.
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That's really
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good and estimated.
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So can you tell us about your nursing career?
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You've told us a bit about before you before you married mark. Did you continue to nurse after you married mark? No, no, I
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I got too busy on Saltspring. But no, I didn't renew her stepdaughter. So what? Public Health? Are she actually in the army camp? Pedal?
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Pedal what Churchill? Medical? No, no, I wasn't married. And everything. No, I didn't do any nursing. Okay. All right. And what year was that when you married Mark 1959.
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That's very interesting, because we've moved to Salt 62 Right. Actually, we know that you first because of the wonderful albums. We know you first saw your property on Isabella Point Road in March of 1962. You probably know more about it than
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that, you know, knock on it two days later. So what drew you to Salt Spring? Well, I was from the East
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African homes. Get homes was a friend of Mark. So
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he always had thought he'd liked to live in Vancouver Island when he retired. So we had
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we after we left everything we came to Vancouver and stayed with his mother who was not well realistic, bring her out of hospital.
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And then we went over and had an interview with him.
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stuck for us back.
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And he said to mark, have you ever showed Gina salt the Gulf Islands? And I said we're harbor Gulf Islands and divergence. So he had this property it was hands a bunch of state.
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And so we looked at Ober caravan and back made an offer.
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When you first came in, how did you spend your
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property to you? And what did you do?
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Remember, I think we were back and forth to Vancouver a bit because Mark's mother was just so so
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we lost our house on the property. Yeah, we we put it Oh, last week we did we got a paddle boat crash. Oh.
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The
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one of the time the Chinese said was not, but Dick Toynbee and Mark Windover and collected the panel garage I think
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in Vancouver or Victoria, I can't remember where and then
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then a builder put it up. And he's now dead, mister.
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And you well.
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Anyway, he put up the patent board and that was our first home for three years.
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And now it's being used by the fraidy foreigner property. And their son is in the garage which no longer looks like a grown up tremendously. And he has turned our orchard into an organic apple orchard. Oh, so he he has a peach trees are finished their limited needs 20 years. Took all the peach trees everything
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has all the apples that we had
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peach trees already on the property. They're gone.
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When you took over the property, or whenever we put them all and you put them all? Yes.
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Oh, yeah. You kind of found 100 fruit tree? Yeah. 200. On your fruit? Yes.
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So we had a lot of peaches. But if you wanted to sell them more on the farmers market,
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right on the island or at home, after the game, a lot of people came to the house for oil. We at first thought that we might have to go off Saltspring to sell teachers.
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We didn't have to.
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They came to us or we went to the market.
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One of the beginners of the farmers
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what to use?
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I guess early 6060.
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We had the Saturdays anyway.
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How long would it take for a peach tree to bear the fruit? Do you remember that? Within five or six years, those trees live? I would say
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they're all started artificial, you know not?
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itself. If by any chance at top of the tree dies, you and you have a goal from the bottom it wouldn't be a good piece. Right? Because it's on different stocks. Right? It's all grafted. Right.
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And where there's particular
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did you select the type of peach tree to suit our climate? Were there specific earrings that you were in close contact with the Agricultural Department?
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You know, Jack
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and his vet James, when they were here. He was into agriculture. And his wife
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was her name she lovely person 30 Dorothy, Mark Felt so dorky, no new more than Jack. But they used to come down a lot and advise us and Agriculture Department kid.
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We had a lot of good friends and
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for strangers for strangers, but they didn't seem to make the eye know at that time. There was no library on Saltspring. So this year the that you could have had a list of books and you could
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have them from Victoria free.
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So we were getting books on how to do it.
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Sorry, glad to get the books from Victoria. That was a wonderful program. Was it people in rural areas? That was no other way? No, we couldn't have gone along with. That's right now that's wonderful. Yeah. And so when you were in the south end, and
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what was the community like?
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Well, our neighbors were all very quick, close.
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They weren't close to us, but we were all in the summertime. We're Americans that had the place that they starburns Oh, yes.
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They were good neighbors, but they're only there for the summer months.
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Mr. Mr. At the end of roll on the road, Mr. And Mrs.
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Token I forget to name it was at their face relaxer car when we first went over to look at the property.
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And we were good neighbors. They
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lasted us. Maybe not the last years. No, but we used the last few years.
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Used to get online. Holly Christmas and Senator all my friends.
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Mrs. S.
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Yeah, what was the name of the people and they were quite an elderly couple.
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For requesters read through some more of your diary. Figure out those names, because I'm sure they're in there. Yeah. But you did. We noticed in the albums that there were lots of dinners that you would have dinner with friends and a lot of friends. And we also noticed that you were very instrumental in starting the nature the trail in nature cloud as we both were because you were very interested in
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first meetings
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that would be in the 70s 70 to
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70.
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Roby
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also the person who lived so she was 100. Married.
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Very
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Yes, it was quite an overt there. And so they were trails. Did you take that River Trails already on the south end? Or did you help develop some or where is it that you took your? Well, of course she knew very well.
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She was very instrumental in
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thinking of trails. Also. Doris Anderson who lives on
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over that.
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Doors. No, I didn't know he was a British nursing sister.
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And she knew pretty well and lastly dogs was good. Right if she could leave her sheep
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because
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she had been balanced
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and she said if there any father just kill one
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young
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young woman I would hope so.
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When you first seen there were a couple of things that we picked up and one was that in 1962, you came in March in October hurricane freedom.
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Do you remember
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the cottage and Windows couple of glasses coming in?
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And marking that onto me how severe it was? Because I said Well, we have these very often.
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Pretty good candidates. We did six the car and different things up on the road and nothing but
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a lot of trees a lot of damage on Saltspring as well as in other places. At that point mark has just gotten his chainsaw. I wasn't too sure what he could use it both bands are not
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at the Harris's English people.
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Americans people were in starburns property.
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They weren't helped them get out because they were going out with a certain
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kind of an atmosphere on the saw.
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You have to learn some.
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So this was really a new life style proposal. What did Marcus do? Can you tell us a little about his professional life before you came to Salt Springs.
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He was educated in Vancouver, in Vancouver
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he got into newspaper work
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trying to remember
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now I think newspaper work right from the start.
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He married fairly young
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and they had the boys about 14 years apart
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14 months apart
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They think he was in the newspaper business until, until he was called up.
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He
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entered the army.
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What do you call when you weren't the army?
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enlisted in the service?
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Oops, sorry.
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I noticed that when
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you were here on the island, he got quite and perhaps you did too. And that's what we're interested in, in political life as a truss islands trustee, and he or he, yeah, he was
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he,
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when they were trying to form a community planets when they got involved,
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I can't remember what's your that would be in
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this 37.
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And they asked him to run in and read some districts.
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And he was in that for four years.
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And then for two years as the vice chairman of Dallas Fest in two years as the Chairman.
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And I think that ended the realm
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right, we actually saw some cancel materials are in your Wisconsin campaign materials. And that's how we knew.
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And did you enjoy that? Were you sad as well? Yes.
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I was pretty involved back here, too. So I was spending half my time on the Victorian marketing department there. And I wanted to clean it up once in a while.
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And we,
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of course, had animals we had a cat and a dog.
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It could take the cat leaves the cat at home with a dog we put in the camera.
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So it was kind of a
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vagabond a little bit here and there during those years.
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Oh, he's
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right.
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We could tell from your albums that your travel, you traveled extensively, and that included a number of international trips, or we were wondering with your special
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course Don and his wife and the two children were in the ran.
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I could tell you the years and this to them. And while we were there Donald rainforests to grow up freight train to the southern part of Russia.
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That very much came back.
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And
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another trip we we took a
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one way ticket to Hong Kong
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there and back.
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And while we were there
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while we were in Hong Kong, and we arranged a trip, very fortunately, to China in the early days. Oh, that would be I could give it the years you can eat.
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They're all English and every nationality is the pink on this trip. And we went to China and
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Shanghai and Tokyo.
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Anyway, the three main cities, Shanghai, Beijing.
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I don't know why they were called
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West Westlake Westlake ruins
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I have booklets on the trips but I could tell you the dates if you need to know them. I don't leave for right now. We will take your time
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right there
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friend brought me some cheesy
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one.
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One thing I was really interested in agricultural
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the one that Gibson said I had given her the recipe but she keeps me supplied
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This is 1977 A trip to the Middle East
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went to Long Island
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that was
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7777 London
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to a man
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she ran
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yerba ban
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Odessa
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and then back to
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true true
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that would have been before the revolution Yeah, was there a cosmopolitan
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city ran into Iran especially
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then on our way back picked up the hill that was their dog and boots is purring, mightily.
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Happy to see you on
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your travel sounds like it was really fascinating. Yeah. And of course, you always came back to Salt Springs.
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And I was thinking about the agriculture and I was wondering, in terms of your peach trees and so on, are your gardening books are wonderful by the way they're inspirational.
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An annual cycle of events. Can you describe what the kinds of things that you would do? Related to the peach trees? Was there a certain time of year eat pruned and do you remember all of that
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didn't long blast
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marking artillery even had some
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holes for all of these trees?
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Because it was a fair it's a fair amount of stones
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and made it easier.
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And
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we also had a lot of stumps those out. So we blasted those and burn them out.
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What do you think? Yeah, these are all friends. It's alright. Yes. And
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it was quite preparation, getting the bed ready for anything.
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The beds, all fruit trees.
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I remember Mark was coming back with a load of fruit trees. And he had to go into mirror Khamis or something. And yes, Mrs. Mirror Academy, she would like one. And she said yes. So every time we saw her after that we had going look at the Beach Street. She really looked after you.
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And
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it's funny. I can't just read all the work. Yeah, yeah.
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We also got to know a lot of people.
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It had open houses on New Year's Day.
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And I saw the list. Not so terrible. Uncle people we'd have 12 to two and
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three to five. And always have clam chowder, of course. And we'd have to give those, you know, as the tides are low in the wintertime, at midnight, you have to pick them and I think Rubio and I had a pretty good supply. So we used to go down there and Ruby would help me.
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We always had clam chowder. We had a cold salmon cooked and
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it was a pair of preparation. That was good ways to entertain.
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But when I saw that list of people who came
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to that was a way back. Some of them I couldn't remember who they were named familiar.
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I didn't really know. Did you have any irrigation system for the trees?
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We had
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a good spring
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shared it with most Dale who was next door and he was
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lived in Victoria and very, very nice people.
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And they didn't use very much and then we discovered another spring. And then when we
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put in a couple of rules,
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Fred, the fella had the cat. I can't remember Fred's last name you probably know
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he's an old timer. I think he's now gone.
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He was able to do a lot of stuff. So he had a great big hole. And we've got water there too.
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Pretty well looked after
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we have a resort for your property probably wasn't a southern exposure. Yes, it's
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just something we left
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a few trees between the orchard and the sea. We never advise to do that. So we didn't get the wind Yeah, cuz that Windows Yeah, that's right.
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Not very far. But just nothing we also I thought Mark was crazy. We didn't have a bathroom but we put it in a saltwater pool down on the beach at the cement truck come put Samantha Ron
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that was a great pool is still going strong
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that was right in front of the cottage. And then we heard the house build up on the hill a little bit
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it took a little planning for the
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first our first the first panels that arrived from dicastery was her
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architect had steps
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and so we sent medicine we want no steps at all.
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We intend to stay there till we die and I guess so he he start over again.
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But the people who bought it America her in them for any? Yes and it still did you mean that Isabella farm that was that was there and I walked down
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so they
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they had
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an Schuberth design and they increase the size of the house and I'd been in
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what was our living room is now their family room is much bigger
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for two people
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and the son uses a cottage
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and that was the parable that you forget right didn't dawn that's right
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you when you came on the island gene we were wondering it was hydro beer already was there electricity on the south end? Oh yes it was there was right to the end of rolling road. Okay.
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We it took us a couple of years to get
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Mark supplied the telephone poles.
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When we brought it in from Roland
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it was better to do that instead of coming away around on Isabel's point
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home throat
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so do you remember
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I don't know if the power went out as often worn as it does now. But did you have a routine down when the electricity went out? Yeah, I guess so.
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I don't remember I think I
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don't remember being out that much but didn't bother us very much. You're well prepared. I think so. Did you meet with worth them? Yes, we have a we have so we had fireplace or woodstove wood stove in the kitchen. Pretty well. He did a whole ocean on
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forgotten I mean, it was a good one.
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And did you cook on the wood stove?
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cook stove as well. Had they had the electric oven? Oven as well as other he was Paul's
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electrical
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Yeah, very comfortable. Yes.
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barcode is first vote of cancer.
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That's when we decided that we'd have to sell a face we couldn't keep it.
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And he had his esophagus removed and part of the stomach.
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And they told him after that didn't expect them to live. He had no notion of
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I think that's part of it isn't.
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That would be
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Cayman 62 It was an ad
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To
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move to Mountain View Drive
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we were there for 20 years.
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Mark had
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two more operation for prostate cancer. And then his very last operation was there was a tumor on the wall this bladder
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orbita Saanich hospital
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and he was swinging on a Wednesday so we went in on a Wednesday now prayed that day and sent home Friday
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and he never recovered. He could have should have gone to the local hospital
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if he had to if it needed to.
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However he was in Greenwich after he was in a
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regular part of the hospital's Greenwood's
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he died 93
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And this memory statements rights of various how fortunate I think when people live to an elderly age if they can retain their memory
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there's not much point staying around if you have no memory understand
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what do you think oh well I don't really know
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without a memory or
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just one
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little pool
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that was full of water it was actually yes it would have
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contraption at the end which would open close like a sluice kind of thing or well
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around thing that you open and close I can remember what's called elders
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the farmers market
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you go ahead and talk
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to me.
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Leisure
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time did you hear winters castle? Windsor out the
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new castle. John. John De Castro. Yeah, it's right after he did, it was being built same time as the SRP.
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Builder what's his name? Oh, I don't know the builder Ernie. And
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anyway, they were very good friends of ours. He was going to our host but he's to evolve with the castle
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get the castle. I know that because one of my closest friends was his second wife. Always.
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He just died two years ago. Well
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we're very good friends who are
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old we had a Halloween last grade there. I thought this was nice to test
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your friends
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one of the pool
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Oh, there it is. Right. Perfect.
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Oh my goodness.
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Often did you use the pool where you
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had no bathroom?
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Stupid having a pool or no bathroom isn't.
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Yet we ran a lot.
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So the water infested harbor was quite clean at that time. And you're able to clam there with confidence and go crabbing and so on.
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I understand you were in
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nursing centers.
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Oh, yes, yes, we are
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I guess about
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20 years we've been getting to get every every
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before are
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we always good to go to Hastings house for lunch because their husbands ever took us so
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we went on.
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I take a picture
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every year
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we had some English girls, it reverses in the English army. And we had some dietician Betty ball. Here in the islands. She was a dietitian with the Air Force, post war. Some ringers is now nursing history.
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And you were with the Army. I was the army at Andrews Air Force and Navy.
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It's quite a different group.
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And we go up there and then during the festivities at lunch and we decide who is going to go on but the reason
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we do that that's great. Put a bit of money in for three
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that's wonderful. I'm kept going for
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an awful lot has left us
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so you had you had lunch together? Did you do other things? Yes we
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were all while we friends but that was one particular thing. We have one of the nursing Sisters is in hospital has been for two years.
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Mark
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anyway, what we did last year this year, we took a bottle of sherry had her moved into some room at the hospital had a drink with her
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what a great
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thought that she really
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appreciated
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what is so many nurses ended up consults. Yes. Combination you know, dieticians I don't think we have any home sisters here but anything that was in the service
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minded people
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are you part of the Legion
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was
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and and since I came here, you know by chance
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the jury's Madelyn and
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she died here and it's still here and we go over he and another girl and I say cribbage every every Tuesday night
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and
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so and I played quite a bit bridge fell in here and there keeps you busy
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what was the social life that did you go to many dances at full football?
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No, we didn't seem to do that. We were more involved I think with the North end in Bridge groups
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and then we moved up this way.
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Couldn't find anything so fan
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guessing at five we moved up here
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and Mark went into agreements I come in here and we did put a down payment on one that was being built for a two bedroom
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but unfortunately Mark died before that happened.
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A picture of him appear with his father
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that's when he is a kid. That was their sister
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What a good looking man. His father does look
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wonderful photograph
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it you see that one over there?
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Two years ago, I believe jack at the beach and
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you're actually on the south there for about 10
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Three years before you came here
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at the firm, that 23 years and then your anger another 20 and
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over 40 years on the island is when Mark crow Mark was in Greenwich. I had a scribbler that kept all are
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all fruit vegetables we had sold and how much it was as all this will cheer markups I took it over and read and it disappeared.
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Everybody's looking for it but it's wrong they probably thought being a scribbler could just cost
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I had one question about the farmers market because well being relative newcomer I don't know exactly where it would have been when it was held. Was it on a Saturday or Yeah, it was always on a Saturday no where was it located? It was at the at before let's say now that the harbor Hills Hotel
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was over
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before you get to more it's somewhere along or you know where you go down the stairs here
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Yeah, that's a place and what would you call that? When the Fisher's is
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here for the fish store was here and it was for a while and then we went over to the park
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I guess the girl was getting to
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be there for years
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don't
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bother going down it's so hard to get a parking spot
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for unfortunately, it's tricky.
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It was here
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very badly. We'll see them often the markets.
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Hairy that
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names familiar. Yes, it is.
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sounds very familiar.
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To us was starting
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to get he was selling his produce.
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There was a farmer then
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it was
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a lot of people will use in
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forgotten their names.
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This is written down
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that you've kept touch with a number of people.
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Even now I know. We were at lunch with sumo at the other day and she mentioned she'd been speaking with you.
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So Joan Harmon who died
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she she used to live here then she wanted a kitchen so she moved to break Haven is that what they call it?
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at all you know it's all built
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Sue was really really upset oh
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it was so unexpected
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I was at in woods Bureau Did you know Ian Woods who died
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Barbara was very I don't think journals nice but it was a nice funeral
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so I sent that information when I wrote to Australia
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you know
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I'll think of this thing isn't that awesome
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HEAR from Him all the time
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you didn't know and no I didn't say they lived in Reginald Hill
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Rosalie
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beach
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in waves so far oh help her family
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so at the market there you were on Saturdays did you go on Saturday are
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mainly peaches. Oh yes we are and other things as well. We have to weigh them out
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while I was there
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Yeah. We had we didn't we just use the car.
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trailer we bought a trailer shortly after we came.
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We always thought we should have had a station wagon but we didn't have just use the car in the trailer
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to keep them covered.
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Did you ever hire anyone to help you? Yes.
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Y'all
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I'm
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John Stamos, je A N.
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He came from France.
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And he and the flute player we're living
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Alyssa cool.
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I'm a newcomer. Oh, supposedly she plays she's a very good friend.
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We had a little bit of service after Mark died she she had played the flute on his 90th birthday. We had a birthday party at Harper house.
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He played at a funeral.
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Yes, we heard quite a few people. Yawn I remember so well.
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Who were some of the others?
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Some of the
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people came up. I had nice sweater from her came to rolling road. Just in the summer in the summertime. There's some use come over.
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So you needed quite a bit of help. And yes,
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peach trees has to be pruned every year.
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And that was crazy. We start reading February pruning.
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So what is it I always liked?
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Good reason to grow.
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Because they're not easy to grow. No, no, there are no
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girl and all the rest. And pruning every year was a big show. What did you do about repeats and Eve curl. We had a spray made up by the
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Agriculture Department and never able to get it manufactured.
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We gave it all to a lot of our friends to
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very successfully worked again had to be done twice a year.
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It's interesting
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that they had loved the flavor. The PSC every night.
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That speeches I ever saw. Were they all different varieties. Yes, we had Fairhaven ragavan. Reading even the room claimed to be the skin for top for Fairhaven were better. There were later versions later.
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Fair Haven was our favorite.
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Those are not Freestone peaches or red Haven. We're a bit resembles to be Fair Haven a red Haven but it's hard to get to the stone free beach.
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There is another prize tonight. I forgot the names but Fair Haven were the best
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but it was a lot of work. But when you're young you don't mind and
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so when you first married mark, his youngest son was still here when you first married Mark. He was youngest son was still living with
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Did he go to school he went school he went to the University of Alberta and has been with us for two years.
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And that was done and he finished on his own
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and that was done
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geologists
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Barry was more or less in his paperwork.
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Please you
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they're both retired.
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It's hard to believe
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that John over here
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he's on lakes road.
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And he has a big gardening is going great so he can make his own wine. So he brought me a bottle of wine on there over last week and it's very good.
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But this year is grapes. aren't as good. They won't be as good a wine because we didn't get enough sun Chinese. No, we didn't. It was too cool. Summer.
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Think all the whiners are having the same problem? I'll bet
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I know it can over there. Not this year, the year before it goes to you're doing a demonstration on finding out something about beaches. So he was interested in
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so did you and Mark were your members of the farmers Institute. Did you get involved with that at all? Not much. Not
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too busy. Yeah. Did you ever enter anything into the fold? Oh, yes. Yeah.
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I guess
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I remember we got some prizes.
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Too late for pitches.
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For peaches, yes, it was not to incur peach jam. No, no, not
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the jam, I think was too late for peaches as I recall.
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Apples,
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plums.
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We had to we had troubles. Coons, of course always here
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to manage your fences all the time. And even the baby deer would crawl in underneath.
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I can't think of anything more delicious for a baby here. Nice
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as a cruise, as soon as they I remember
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the dock we had the problems, were just ready.
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Not quite ready, but all those views of during cruise would be in. So what we did, we took her l was our dog fan car and parked it right at the tree
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with her food and the door open so she can sleep there. And so that's the only way we save that tree.
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So did you track the raccoons at all or? No, but I had
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Val or maybe it was Lady that first dog had disrupted and chased a cocoon, who was nest at a nasty stop.
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And she
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took off and took a baby with her. But she left two babies behind. And so we checked the babies the next day and they're pretty cold miserable. So we brought them home.
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And we got a formula. It was somebody in aunties, who helped with animals, I forgot his name.
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And he gave me the formula to use so one died. And then we had the other one for a few more weeks and we had two little Victorian. We were planning the house we had to pick up the fixtures or something for VLA.
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And I took this baby Kuhn in the car
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nice didn't ask them up there. They get more on the ball rolling. So we did they warmed the ball they all the staff came down
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feeding this baby Kuhn
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however it died to justice. Well,
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we gave it the best week.
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Even the cat and dog behaved themselves
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Mark can you did you ever hunt?
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Really? Mind you Ruby was she was always wanting to
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eat you know Ruby? Certainly.
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Certainly know of her. Yeah, her knee. She was a good neighbor.
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She showed us all the things we should know. We bought there are flowers to pick and whatnot to pick what fish to fish for and took us out and shows us out. Did you know Ruby?
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And
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she knew all about hunting and
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she even the young burger houses? Yes. Yes. There was a stream of water ran through her basement. Right.
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And she had a coon not a coon
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not a
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son or daughter and daughter
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came in and she had to get rid of it.
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She was quite the girl.
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And of course her husband died after we came.
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He was a nice person.
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She still has a sister on the island.
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She's quite passionate about the island.
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A lot of money. Yes.
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kufrin dancer sister.
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I saw caffeine as something recently. Is Your Lunch maybe but she was saying that her brother
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who lives here and I've forgotten his first name. His memory is gone.
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All of a sudden, I can't remember his first name.
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His memory is terrible.
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Kathleen seems to go on forever.
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Still very active in the garden club. Yes, very edgy as always enter Historical Society meetings.
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Well,
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I think we've taken quite a bit here
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Trying to sell
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quite happy that we thank you very much for this
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love to hear in your head Did you have a crumble again she's
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very good stuff yourself so what do we do about
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Thank you very much
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well I guess it wouldn't be the wrong font
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don't don't
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don't
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don't
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now
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she was looking at this form that we have from the website and we could change it from loan agreement to donation agreement if you are willing and happy to have a take these away so I would like to maybe give them one of course maybe we should do is come back with the proper form and once you've had a chance to really look through and decide that this is really what you want to do I really do feel it's one that you can take yeah
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absolutely delighted
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maybe after the holiday All right
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thank you
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fun you should ensure that it's perfect holiday flowers
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where shall we put that for
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once I'm in the back of the table or was in the No No.
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Again I could put a
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piece of paper over there right over on the table and that's for
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that paper
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fascinating fear all
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around us important mark should be here
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well I think you've conveyed his hopes Absolutely. Yeah
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that's pretty
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for you
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at some
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yes that she could carry would you like us to rip this album and put it somewhere for you to want to leave it there
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I put I put our first names I should put her put maybe I should
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know your last name
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before we can
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separate over there
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mean it's just really You came job for you people. It was such a
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job
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records
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inspirational I really mean that. I am looking at my garden book and this woman has written down kind of Dainius she has in her garden. She has a diagram
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I gotta get to work
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appreciate this
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information
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15 years
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Oh my dear so you can
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see it hasn't been recording your whole trip home.