Salt Spring Island Archives
303_DeBurgh-Family_Ruth-Sandwell_2015.mp3
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9.02.2024
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groceries and meal from
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until what rent started loving and that's where we started going to encase
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so why what did that have to do with the logging? is
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well you can get a lot more Ganges you can eat it you're loving it
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so they logged here as well in 1945 Starting in 1945 Obviously a bit later during
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the night there wasn't much that goes on rallies property
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Do you know who loved it? Keith Johnson was he with a big company or was he I think
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it is his company. They really started with this and he used to go down there and watch them and he said that's how I learned to love by watching them that's one thing they did they fell the tree on there was
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not a good move. So do you remember the sister? Do you remember what you thought when you first came to Provo you came from? From Victoria couch and
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it was funny.
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How did you get here in the depths and
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we'll go it was about at least to our trip. When I first got here I had cola which wasn't too strange to me because during the depression that for a while as a greeter
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at home not true
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you finished you went to high school in Duncan and you worked Did you work in a bank before you came here?
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Yes. Okay.
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And then didn't you
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get a tutor when the demand for children and when I worked in a bank during 1941
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So right before you got married I guess so you heard how did you hear about looking after
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I used to look after your children high school principal and back to the children there and then I had them some children funeral for other people or was usually Mr. Hudson this recommendation please join me in as he did suggested that I come over here
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and so he would ask somebody to come over here but with Christine's lessons I
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know what you're getting into
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Yeah, that's did it was there anything in particular that struck you about about it? Did it seem really isolated or
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not too long? Because I haven't grown up in five minutes and that sort of rocks and trees and things?
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Yeah. Did it Did it bother you or did you notice it being on an island
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not really been brought up?
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How many people were living here then? There was another lady and my daughter Hubert.
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herself and Mrs. Watson
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Were there any other people watching here?
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Whenever a person
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how long did you stay during the tutoring?
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As soon as because that went over document. Got some work over there. She was working on I went back to Adobe. Sometimes we used to come over the previous day in August
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to do did her daughter Christine, did she Had she been getting an education up to that point and was falling behind? Or? Or had she? No.
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She was doing it just because he or she wanted somebody.
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So they were running a phone Huber turned and embedded diberi have a lot to do with the running of things. So
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not too much other person didn't have as many elements.
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What did you have to remember in 1939, but never
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had any. But cows and sheep was used to discount sheep and goats, which wouldn't really get any attention, except once in a while they would have a roundup and try to shoo them away and I had thought that we could sell them here in the states were replaced, but there was a heavy duty of logistics.
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So did you did you sell it at all? Like locally or not too
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much? When there wasn't much
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did you mark it the other farm projects?
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Where do you know where you sold it to?
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Over the
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summer my labs went to death and I know that he ever do and Mr. Foster used to accent and probably worse. And I know what she used to take deep and also took deep to COVID store which her dominant women used to be tender and shaming. So before we used
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to, like it's later on the ship to the waiter.
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So did you ship the animals live? Or did you do your own slaughtering of the end?
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I guess mostly they weren't the master.
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And the wolf probably always went to the wolf brothers cooperative
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through where it was in Ontario.
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Gordon Walker used to come over sometimes and get you around. Then sometimes needs to take them over there to this place. We're giving everybody more of a bigger font or loading.
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So what happened during the war here, that sort of 39 to 45 to things carry on as usual? Or did they
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do some hair on day to see my husband was actually firing? Because if you're a farmer, you're exempt from unfortunately, in the spring of the year that
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was that's good. Yeah. Hang on. Let me do that. So what other so I've just been a couple a little bit. So you got you went back to Duncan. And then did you decide to get married after that? I mean, did you really get married after four years in this?
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Home experience we had to live together. Not long after we got married, we had to go get some groceries. Gadget so we went to Ganges and after about four days of storms, we finally got there and then we got over there. We couldn't get back because it was too. So where to go. And this is a big series and this is Baker in Georgia.
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She's very beautiful. She's She's a marriage. However, how I think it was Helen. I think she was still going to high school. She vouched for us
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so then you moved right over here. Did
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you assess you didn't have availability because it was just a tiny blackout. We suddenly had a blackout. And we were in Victoria one night, but we were walking down the streets. We didn't because we've seen these leaded cigarettes coming towards you. So it wasn't really fancy. Just came back
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and was very still living there.
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Now she was in. She was wonderful. It was kind of I don't know if she had those jobs where she she looked after the sporting heroes under her name and she was cooking at some restaurant in Sydney. And she wasn't making daily she drinks over jobs like that. wish she thought she'd been to cooking school and then was cooking
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and her daughter was would go with her
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and go to school
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so you
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were born in
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245 So you had you done farming before beforehand so what was your What was your family background? What did your parents do
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my father was in the lending business
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was he like a merchant? Or
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even he was one of the partners in Hillcrest in about five miles and don't think there's no reward for being there operation
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so you weren't really used to farming No. So how did you find it
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when she told me her first experience here was I guess we were just before Christmas when the rounds would be coming maybe January and February and one of my first jobs was to hang on to the round so I would get materials cut off and get frustrated
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because of something that I counted on
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Did you did you grow any first of all any crops here at all
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grow hay or else Hey was yours growing sentence sometimes this is mostly mostly just so did you look up to the vegetable garden to help to use it
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what could you growth investors can do Jews
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ever seem to do very well very famous
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it's funny isn't it? Because there was
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no, that must have been a wonderful
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trip but must
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be something about the soil I mean as well as they've been farming for a long time too but so did you do a lot of did most of the vegetables that you ate come out of your own garden or did you buy a lot of produce so
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I don't think we got too much but we did provide some we didn't make a point of trying to do everything that we don't believe
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it was easy or convenient to
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Knossos we seem to have lots of apples nowadays the pros get
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so there was an orchard that was planted was there earlier or did did your fall
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in the middle of the valley or two
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three or four there
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if you're down here and was it mainly apples and pears and then
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you said there's a great talent out there honestly
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one time it was a great primary
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but you got grapes from it? Yes.
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We do have great great fun again now. Yeah, I guess there used to be some kind of very
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respirators on aspirin
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anything else that you grew up in your garden with vegetables and fruit from the orchard
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the net Three
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Rivers covered
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what kind of nuts were they were building
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from the bird's nest
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Did you do a lot of counting and preserving quite
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know before I had any children
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did you Have any help in so you started having your kids in the mid 40s Did you have any help with them?
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No they always turn was one of the girls in the Lagos the judges and so forth whatever it is for us to have governments around
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so just occasionally to help numbers
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we only kind of had a babysitter was when I went over to Duncan my mother
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he really didn't get any relief
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when I discovered one day that she had taken her dog down to be with someone that you've never played with
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to one did you guys go to pander to too long we have
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opportunity sets are you know sold?
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About 400 acres? So
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did you see the rallies about it? Okay, well and then you got you Well, you got it took it up from them.
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Okay, and then you sold the law exam? Did Did your husband do the logging? Or did you log into YouTube? So that's why you moved over there
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did you leave anybody here on the phone?
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Yes. Check in with us.
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Solvents
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so they were here for what three years?
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I don't know how long something like that.
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And then how did you find it? I've raised two children in a city with quite a bit of support. How did you find it? Raising children without a large larger community of people are drawn to
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me I was the eldest of eight children so I go over my mother's when you have to do something
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did you go off the island very often. In those years I'm thinking about sort of 40s and 50s When your kids were young
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maybe once every couple of months or so over to the dentist would you go to Dunkin for the dentist or nursing
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home it was too difficult to get over and back in the day
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first started going over there there was no
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sorry there was no visitors so how did you go to get across the attack because it was quite slow to return to college and I don't know
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where that must have been difficult. So you heard it was a motorboat but do do under anything else about the boat. Interested in boats. This
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is an open boat with a motor inside where you
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know there's a picture of it. This is an old postcard from Southend. And that's about there. It is pulled up the shore down there and trying to restore time.
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What did you do for for the stuff that you couldn't you know that you didn't make yourself or grow yourself here on the island? Where did
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you know where to go and just show up
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without counting
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And how would you get that? Could it be delivered into Ganges and you pick it up or depending on
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what you're saying by mail the mail is much faster so I can remember sending to even severe pain was was only one or two items. But
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right now so where did you pick up your mail? Was it in? When did you start? When did people start going to tender
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for for mail
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probably wasn't very successful that week
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when we were on South Pender though of course, we got our nail down there. I thought was about 19 When we came back here from South Padre then we went again to his own time. So that was 1951
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And how long did it take you to get to Ganges
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or in our folk dancing we have a 50 minutes I guess. Not quite an hour
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so did you use to
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go yourself or did Hubert used to go usually
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when I got old enough they would go with me chose to do something
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when they were young
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but when Bernard Stalingrad was living and working here Bernie just to go and get the groceries
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you see? Oh,
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he was he lived here and worked on the farm from 1951 to 57. Anyway, he had his own boat too and he used to go and do his shopping and our shopping quite difficult but once a week
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following the senior for
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six or seven years six years
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did you usually have somebody to help with somebody else here to help her we
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usually have somebody
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I guess so after Bernard left we didn't have anybody steadily no we had intermittent health but not nobody living here
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so that through all that time the farming you continue to do the farming and a bit of logging and things like that. Did you say that you
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did log
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here on provoke
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a response of logging
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50s and 60s logging in here and then the I did log on me and was limited by the property on me
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thought it wasn't that we filmed the timber on name but he logged on the Indian reserve they didn't log that
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and then he sold it was sold about maintenance
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we sold the timber out there later and
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then sold the property later about I can 62 or 76 During the two
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was there any sorry we did love themselves
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being 200 bucks
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attorney
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attorney to So did you buy property or did you get sometimes or did you love other people's property?
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So standard we learned property material that was somebody else's because so the timber and Saltspring so the timber and
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Sedona
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we just got the timber
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so that was just your your husband did that or did you work with other
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parents improve
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this there was a good market for longer after the war
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heroes. Yes, until the war time. There wasn't a market for sort of timber that we have here. It was considered of no value so that was probably my grandfather and bring so much of it.
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really upset daddy grandfather who broke up several fortunes and timber.
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Yeah, that was the way then wasn't it? People just didn't you know it wasn't economical people didn't see it does seem funny now it doesn't like it So did it Did he Did your husband do anything else to make you know to sort of make ends meet and other bunch of other things people were doing on the Gulf Islands like commercial fishing some people didn't know just
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I guess the login was a lot more profitable
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Did you always live in this house
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most changed houses we added this tiny
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part was added on and what 1955 56 to seven
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and then there's another part of the video parts that they're going to
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do I want to ask a little bit more about about the the island itself and I wanted to ask you about the well, I call it flora and fauna Did you did you do like use the land with natural vegetation and the did you dig for clams and did you gather berries or any of that kind of thing?
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No No,
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we've never been in for those sorts of things really?
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Here when you got animals on the place so much of Education has even grown there isn't much here so
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I guess daddy used to go fishing been years and years ago but not in the last four years.
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Yeah, what about hunting
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we would like shoot a deer that was getting in the garden or something like that
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but not for not for meat
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Did you eat to eat good to eat the deer or not
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had heard some voice once in a while but
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it was mostly were ones that Bill shy somebody else there are a lot of gear here
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it's a great nuisance
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but we didn't but until fairly recently when we got a free Deep Freeze we didn't eat our own beef and lamb because we didn't have any money to keep it anyway Daddy never liked to eat his own meat. Teddy
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never put you around it really
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did mind butchering the beef as you shoot them they just couldn't didn't like to do the land so easily got somebody else to go because it was too upsetting. So we get to the freezer and whatnot keeping or add to the freezer. And then we started keeping our own meat eating it. Until then we never did very much once in a while we did have our own beef that we wanted we do keep it somewhere else
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so he had some in the locker in Duncan
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to get because we didn't have a car either you see
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those days? Yeah, it's too
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difficult for transport and stuff especially.
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But it was so much cheaper to get taxis in quotes in those days to up until I guess the 70s It wasn't too expensive and then a capitation got a lot more expensive.
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Did you have them? Did you always have from early indoor plumbing in this house since you moved here?
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Yes. We've never ever had a mentor knocks and says we're just your water come from. We have a screen that
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just goes by gravity skills down to the lowest point gravity
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and how is the water? Well, it's
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hard water going it's good.
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But you did use to pump water out when you first came first. And you carry a lot of water
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back and forth to pump it up into it
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