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History of the Cranberry Area

Interviews with Ted Brown, 1987-88

Tape One

Accession Number Interviewer
Date September 13, 1987 Location SSA
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Tape Two

Accession Number Interviewer
Date October 8, 1988 Location SSA
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294_Ted-Brown_Cranberry-Area_1.mp3

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This is the first interview with Mr. Ted Brown.

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When did you come to cranberry Valley?

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I came in 1910 Actually my father came here no

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I think it would be August of 1960 took up the property

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Did you follow later?

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Yes. It came back in 9990 10 Christmas

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got you and your brothers and sisters with just two

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brothers and my mother

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and your mother. Now what was your father's name?

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John Brown

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and your mother's name

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Wilson What's

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your brother's name? Okay, that's Chuck check this make sure we're working okay, perfect. We're

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working now so let's get down to

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when you came up then Valley what year would that be 19

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returned to this January

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where were you found your

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we've stayed in Victoria until the summer and then brother had a job they moved up then we moved up here the house wasn't quite finished. So we had to live in the old shot until I suppose it was nearly Christmas I think we moved in Christmas into the house

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and the old shack still on the property

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Yeah. Calling darling I've neglected it

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oh well it's getting on isn't it pretty hard then

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I get to work most of the time at home and then I suppose to depart from the cabinet maker the the later years 1912 I think it was worked in the mortar store. Oh we put in those windows Oh for goodness is going to send to Georgia to get a specialist on the project as well as nobody can do it within more than those when this new rubber scene renders in the role of race. So he made those by hand

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so he built your house out. He built your house

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I think he went to the mall. Oh, where was that? No. Fred may be just up on the hill. Just to vote. Seabreeze Oh,

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okay.

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Just across the road.

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By this time, I guess you're going to school. Did you go into preschool

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primary school? Yes. Actually, it was the old log cabin right near I don't entirely

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know. Is it still passionate there? No. No chill. Dunaway also kind of on that corner there was

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this woman a corner there's an apple tree there. John has well did that I did tell you destroy the building. And it was used as the church to Sunday.

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Was there a lot of children there are a lot of others. 1010 10 or more

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At the mall when the cranberry school was built in 1912

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was

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right down the road the Reds road road to Mexico

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that's what it was the first school that you're talking about yes. So there was two credit two family schools

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that was actually done away with the old job and it was done private property belongs to John

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John The steps

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are yet to be on this piece to

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Richmond originally this was owned by Rambo and a couple of Switzer. They had a nursery here but I'd forget the date when they took it up. They sold to earn these houses based on the island

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Bernie Bernie to decide the color man's name was

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Miss Thomas

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so with the Meijer and the name, Bremmer and Meyer have homesteaded this Yes, they were the first opposite

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I think so. There isn't there's no record beyond that before that, although I do know that somebody started to take up this whole piece and I just they had money to start in to pay their deposit recorded later has it recorded recorded in the lender?

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So we don't know what the name is. Okay, I

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can find out

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okay if you do that swift

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swift

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Yes. I think it's practices and maxilla

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good. Yeah, good. Grammar and Meyer Ernie has to build a building

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somewhere near where the barn is over there was only building the sold out to a man No Wait wait

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wait, do I spell the weights AI WTI

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back okay. He finally sold this western half to

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Eastern half rent to a land company or a soldier settlement for something like

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Well, that's why it was

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split up and that would be the MOCs now. Was the East

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Western the Western

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Okay, good. Okay, and who was next

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so those actually the our towers and he lived here for a few years.

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He was the one who built this house originally. Yes, yeah. And then the hieroglyphs here.

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Howard's lived here for a few years and heavy snows and in charge for the children to get out to school. The roads washed and power was flown. So they exchanged it together more poorly than not

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only did Gavin

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is really still

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Right. Okay

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so they move their Delos one bus I think was the next

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one wasn't he at LeMans house

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that was the other one

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and what was this one's name?

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del del del Mar

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del Mar van

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fester man Buster two words

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Tobias Connery NO ME

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THAT WAS LeMans

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yes what was

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it over whether he ever made anything on it I don't know however the next person was

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at the master here

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was that building that little house there then no no

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there was part of it

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wasn't built that way Wait Oh when we go wait turn down the southern belongs to how do you also have the smallest focus

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wait apparently borrowed money on that Western on that you abandoned I suppose more

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than you'd have shown the reaction to John Ross

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that are watching out

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for that are Rogers Rogers father

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the next one here over and over and over don't move into junk

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I did hear that it was empty for a long while that jail

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would be

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the dream house

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remember the

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barn who built our barn

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This is good. Okay, that's up to date here then the sandals obviously sold to Woody Fisher and then we bought it then that was rather loose then they bought that we bought all that

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there was somebody I think by the name was Stuart that own that eastern

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most measures paid up for the last did that belong to the soldier settlement for some company anyway.

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And then what was the name of the man who bought it?

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Stuart Dewar was the name. In the meantime, Harold Van Buskirk, rented it lived there for a time until it was apparently sold that he had to move the western end has already been described to them then what is it then it lives on the house for his son in law by the name of

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it did

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have a name was I don't know

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benefits of

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this Wiseman was Hazel

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so this property which was default was divided went right to the row right. And how that

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was done here is the

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turn where was that? That was the old lab house

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down in the hollows

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okay and then that was there

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another one then MAGEC up on the right let's just rise to government growth

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so how which time we would have posted

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a why did they desert that

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when they came back from overseas in the first world war they decided there wasn't enough land so they bought the place from Charlie now that is no rules they bought that

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so did not with that Howard's right up to roll ridges

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no that was another brother oh where's the Howard sorry was holy place was Charlie

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read notes don't miss

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Oh, okay. And there's an old lab house there. Is that that the friend had quite a bit

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also down the fella named Maurice Jackson. Fred island I think it was just Fred Yeah

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All right. Here we go again.

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When I came here

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throats match

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around the glasses are further than that.

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Yes. They are. On the left side of the road, both downwards was Smith's powerful place originally was a man named Matt is a member of parliament Victoria and he sold that may have been someone in between. But Joe Smith had the place next. He accidentally shot to death. It didn't die. According to one story 22 went up and shot him in the liver is young cells that tripped over a shoelace.

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We had some of the data was only two weeks old when that happened. Her mother came down to the neighbor's for help. They get old and he put him on the kitchen table will now operate the dog just said gangrene they've already set in. So he couldn't do anything just so did you only look to the about 19 things I'm not quite sure of the date that's the time of Robin

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so did their family leave then

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essentially the neighbors love the island gathers up some money Doug Smith with to make the payment via tau

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I suppose she made the payment that she sent the money to England to get her sister mothers they say My sister went to school with

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your daughter she's now

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did they stay on the island

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fellas by the name of you took up a lot of

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place for a while. They originally owned the black place that was one of them. Married widowed Mrs. Smith he had some money I don't know how much he helped him squander it they separated for many years. He gradually died and she eventually married a man named the outlived him

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he must have been good luck and

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she went to South they moved into a piece of property they are on the road I guess they sold that out a few years back when prices began to go up eventually they sold the property up here to a promise don't buy a company now

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right that's where we get right wrote

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it wasn't done not natural. Right next place the.

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Ground up in the First World War. II turned that over to the soldier settlement and moved back into Ontario. He married a girl from the island by the name of her Purvis is one of the early storekeepers.

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They lived in Sainte Marie Ontario for quite a number of years. Raised rays they can buy 20 years ago or more but they didn't stay there. Then they both did.

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Across from the lake Next to match to lake there on the property south of natural lake

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is that where the two people still live

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I don't know if the genuine there now we're not

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there's two houses there and those

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two houses are owned by Mr. Lyon a real estate magnate Victoria and his sons inherited it and now his

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granddaughter we met her at the party the

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other day that's right some years ago

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yeah

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so would that be close to these other people when I interact with you

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they know

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a watershed just told me this presented building whoever owns the

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A there was

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I think there's an injunction or whatever out there now

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the idea for the water

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then of course the main property next

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to the north from the lake

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north side of the lake took up three unfunded drugs and extended right down to the seat Samsung oh those September limits set in that property and I think it was lifted for free throw rugs throughout the series of some of the oldest stuff to give an example serious free free up the net the snow that fears a job right I think free up to the nugget that went right down to the sea

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I think he moved to the previous rich know the sun that demand was taken up he was a color I don't know whether you need your God many years legend T apparently abandoned the main

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index John Rogers was this piece of Charlie garden

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he eventually sold some soul he died in the sun so to attend for customers I don't know whether they see

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that property right there that we can see its maximum blow and they're selling it now. So this was ourselves and the gods that on the other side of this side

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Shepherd hills.

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Okay, so who was the gossip? homesteaders to the gossip to the fat.

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John, that was John both night What's in

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store and how did they get when they actually did it? Is they get it from the government

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for a nominal fee

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I don't know the exact date when they tend to go but one of the first in here with the colored man named Robert slate he got his crown grant in 1890 I don't know that a couple of days has the property that now is Howard they will probably get rich although there's no red car

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so it was kind of before they recorded

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then grandpa now the three brothers it took the dog David

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okay you were saying that you you worked as a surveying

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surveyor for 17 years oh one notes one sample

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size I think it was they were surveying for this power line across the island under Hill and under Vancouver were the engineers controlling it came to need help

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I tell the change sell all the way through decreased who in the way of his life

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under the Carolinas cleared all of

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this clear death lovers live wages to raise the rate of project the post along this right away I think it was 166 feet wide the right of way think they call it more of an easement than a right of way

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and it went it started where we're coming from Galliano.

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With rowing a boat from the shipper was staying at Harbor we go in somebody's boat would take us over to Galliano the day and then come back again at night

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and then when you got to the island how does the line get across

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the submarine cable of course slowly replaced by a cable ship

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and then did you pick it up when it hits

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the fan? Well we have nothing to do with that chili cook in the lineup all we did was do the survey Robert lucked out on the various properties and I suppose the people that property cross they get paid for the timber as well as for the easement across the profit

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they get much for that

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I don't think so.

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I suppose it was hydro then. Previous to hybrid with DC electric about remember that what year is that? We're talking like I don't know just what year they took over. What year did you do this? Besides I think it was

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so what was the power before that on the island.

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It came to Rainbow Road from Something came up rainbow roads getting dumped and wanted more power more power so they had to switch lanes baseline so what refers to the state somewhere up north so what

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are the valleys when did we get lit up

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originally I think

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I know the early stages anyway

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yeah I think fender had a generator

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yes he had because came up in here that it didn't come up in here till 1960 I guess it was floored this quarter this

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it's amazing to me I was born in Vancouver and we've had power being so close to the city and electricity only came in in 2027 years ago

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it is really amazing that you and I can sit here and talk about a place that was virtually a few years before you came here

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not sure when the first power came to the power plant are privately owned

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somewhere in the Valley

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line is not tough because your lines are tested on Rainbow Road recently that just has to come from Dunkin by way of Rainbow Road and I think they put two cables across

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oh I see so this power lines that we have here are really more for Vancouver

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led to the power station no room done to Verizon

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don't do us any good oh well that's an interesting facet

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Do you remember anything about animals around? We don't have Naza remember the Cougar

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to come across here of course they were hunted down there think there was a bounty

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in recent years that was done away gets no compensation if the cougar is still considered and are protected. There's a season for them.

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Or they don't get compensated for

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that Oh yeah. It's always

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more difficult now than it used to be.

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The Department of Agriculture you still handled adult compensation a few years back. Say 15 years ago they changed the core that you didn't have. Tell them how cheap robots are killed. About 14 years ago Oh 1973 I had 39 one night and I only had four less the next day oh dog I didn't see the dog so the way you said it's probably dead with somebody else and they got away they don't know who they were they wanted to know the age of these sheets that will kill someone I said some years old five and seven others were young they wanted to know what I sent in the report. How many of those were between five and seven years old and the results were the rate increase my god I only got about $17 and $30 for you and $16 for allow

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that you ever got

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back into shape again?

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No. You have four left. And I finally decided to sell them get the land the rest to money both tapeworms, hookworms and so on liberal rubbing the head they claim this exists for longer than 11 months without a home so I thought I'd get the land and not have too much trouble in winter sending them tromping through your snow I went to cheat them every morning I didn't raise any more I never waste any more live stuff I had to test that

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how much land did you have there? We got the same amount of land

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nine to nine acres a half was a last known as 198 divided by description that was run through between the North and South oh the house no oh no it belongs to a man named drummers is one time to get

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across the road

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I don't know who owns it now. I had to sew and that's when the dividers on the gumball exactly

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Blackburn Rovers I was

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your crush mountain ridge the road crosses the mountain ridge between Ganges valley the head of the divide valley the highest point this was down to Cushing lane. That's the Detroit valley right through pushing Late. Late

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So did your property include Robert

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not quite. On the property of Robert completely surrounded by the love that only causes here that was a half mile square. The other six quarters mile by a mile long some of them a little more than others. That was 106 days offers and 60 139 125 and so on the way they originally designed it

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so what did you do with your land

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about three and a half acres we can actually farm to roughly

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oh you still have a

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little over 7898 99 the 90s the whole round in 1963 I guess it was

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fella named Bob Hoffman and he turned it over to a legend

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then the real estate man bought it and he sold it to somebody and they sold it to somebody else and then they surveyors they bought it and then I think they sold it to somebody else and I don't know

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it's not the only

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no but the less diverse the price was for an eighth grade than what I got for the whole

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the whole nine

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yes

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however, I reserved nine acres on the road to the middle take a little over an acre and a half and then run it was right back here to come out my corner post and I got it happened highway engineer was here at the time when I got asked to vote taken out this corner so they expropriated a peace of mind.

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Robert Frost is right along as the smile Jr it took a little less than a quarter for Nathan

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to raise $5,000 in acres the property was 7200 an acre

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so a little over seven acres

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just about right for you

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well it's actually too much the slides two and a half years I haven't been able to use the word content that's

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pretty painful stuff I get myself now Okay, can you remember any kind of funny stories I know when when houses got a funny one about a goat that's going to get somewhere but if you get any funny stories you can remember

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well, purism the old timers because they gain regulations here. They used to go out at night when they wanted

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to write this Method Man hunting one day and he said before anybody was settled up here. Robert slightly shot nine deer he went close to death. Right. Right. Job to work. Those days you can sell them in the market. Yes.

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So I don't know just when that was

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before there was anybody here at all

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the people of color. People were very Minoan and some of the other people on the north end of the island. But this was in the 1900s. Although, Robert the old colors man he got his brown grant in 1890 but he sold Again, but I don't know who's never investigated that. And then there's a fella named Nate Corolla, which here is what he eventually sold to a man named Toffler. There was a dude definitely killed in an

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hour versus

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another man with the right riding horses to bring to the ranch. Something happened, nobody could get to know that he and this other man was coming back at night and they ran into a bunch of wild horses as the car went out

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the door and he fell apart

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that was in 1944 His son was here at the time but

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they had quite a number of years. And then they sold to adapt the Kurgan of Vancouver and he came out here twice. Finally, something happened he had trouble with the twice. Either We've run out with another woman or she went there. Anyway, he said Howard was the one that was I think he threw a temper loves

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to say so.

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We'd love

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to build that last half

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in 1917 but it's their house burned down I think it was the spring of 1916 or 16. I forget what it was Easter holidays anyway. Post house I saw

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that on that site.

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Then they built the smoke house. They operate in the summer of 1917 as a summer they the credits

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came back overseas first got into when he came back he did some improvements of the house that he built houses were moved to California San Diego was at when he sold out

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the soul so a cousin of Mrs. Morris by the name I think he was a German when the war broke out with United States of Germany he was in charge he was living in California. He was in the property finally was sold but did not maintain an airman was going to buy it but something happened he was transferred overseas and

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then sold it

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then it went to the house and then it went to

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the house. Yeah, that's When I guess three years something like that oh

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were there any big hero anybody got killed in any of the world

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less Lesley Carter when was the first yes to close was mostly Joe Mason they were two guys from the visible

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just the way the world was on the road from Joe Nightingale he was killed up from this row

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grabs the steroid and Mrs. Howard tells me she thinks he kills me that

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he was wrote for

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to come up with a crew without ready to work on the road it came out of a rap on the side of the road they were quite a size we're going to take the voiceless and in red they had to abandon the road they went into those domains they just they had

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they had soldiers and I just listened to and they had the power and he had to make 20 minutes from the plane and he said and when he came around this corner he hits this route with the 5g and it turned over into through him and he hits his head on the lug and broke his neck with a broken ribs

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very rapid he's had to leave

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we're still riding on the road when this happened

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because

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they couldn't find for quite a while that many turned up on the device with a broken rib is not the same as the I sent to 1915 or 16

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Why does when Howard still walking around when Howard thinks of Joe Nightingale

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tell me about the liquor pattern that bootlegging and so forth that

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went well there was then that I know of bootleg however

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let's go followers that own the property

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from the domain

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the heart

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of disaster the worst because his son was home on leave. He was home on leave at the time that happened. We started going up and down with the horse he must be in an awful hurry today. He doesn't stop the raid rather than running fast. And the doctor came up He checked over and he says it's too hard to pass this race attack through calculus by the law

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the depths of

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who was the first person born in the valley

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with the first baby

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and you remember that coffee

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suddenly not smooth for he had

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an array

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through yellow they came like that maybe that was that forever I think the next one would be born who would be Flora then are those and then I read Stella that

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I know I always was but I'm not sure about so I don't remember when those to withdraw, but a Namkeen

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she was the youngest. They had hard chosen

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Leslie was the eldest

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little interesting all around this interaction that was

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wrestling

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they told us that didn't want

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to stay here they didn't

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supposed to do this

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To be honest

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with Phil was that where he just doubled down in

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Florida

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John cold How did the marsh get drained just by putting this out so how much of the month was March all the bottom land was underwater

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governor of Florida

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possibly however

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government calls

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that drain

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weights we got to pay for

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my brother nice

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there was more as a boy

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the other floor

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wherever

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we live

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profit

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that's the

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standard a little bit

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how long did it take

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and then stop and then does its own thing after that straightened out

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cut was a little over by voice but actually halfway

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for so many years

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no doubt

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it's obviously the skill

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set I have some Gumball habits however and you could walk in the road

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oh

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I know I keep asking me off a little

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crazy stuff

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The only drawback we have

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down below

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that's nice well it wasn't thought

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of it that was an unusual

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although I have strong protection

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look at the classrooms are having a second

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started off know

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when we took up this property homesteaded property

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are amazing

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the key the only real estate man within a month

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so we were selling everything up

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who's a Molson they had a middle

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pretty well done

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makeup they are of course governed

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during the wars

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option but they didn't pick it up

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right now we've got that on the other side Leo

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let's run it the way they want it finally

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you ever believe when you first came up here even know probably

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we're gonna have to stop it

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bringing and who would sell it grateful for the island I was

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sense of Montreal was

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off phenom.

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again in 1946. And as a federal project worked for the last six months for the guidance for the segment mark. What was his name? Richard. Oh, what's your brothers

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but I would take it over later

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when he retired and didn't get no

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permits

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to the liquor store

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consignment and bring it

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one day towards Christmas

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to for a bottle of whiskey I just forgot Anyway what's the liquor was anyways that was for

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me how to do it and write down what you want

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finally there was a fella come along he thought he'd like to buy it

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by Elijah

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brothers and sisters Just live on the island

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though I suppose on

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the top the Mountain

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were you a mechanic at that time qualified they were pretty simple

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now what are we talking about my work

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drive

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when it was rolled around jumping around from the upper side there's a lot

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but when it comes to power up

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about time I pulled them behind the Capitol

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I work

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with the mother because of the phone orders coming in we have

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gotten a lot more to go on with writing

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the lawn mower all you have to be really careful otherwise

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big into the blades flying up

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he wasn't the dozens that started on your little collection of cars you got a few cars over there

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just a little collection some of them

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one right good job like that.

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flywheel the flywheel

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is there and if you need some money you just go

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to class some of them are getting quite old and that

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was would rather

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leave the Robins is completely gone

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one was the 2829

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o'clock one night when I got home

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go up in the afternoon and walk down the road looking down my desk

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having said that going into the job by growth

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when I went into the job I was working on loving the cooking

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relax don't want to use the word

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with all the

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money was relatively to go together

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in a public place to be a mess. So

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I last night I went to work while I had walked to the mosque

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spread the word

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never knew when you're gonna be called Midnight

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three o'clock in the morning

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from the 1940s

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and as long as the wasn't the most

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an earthquake Cembalo

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smaller quake

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as a matter of fact

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the water was done

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and then we had to go

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sometimes where they both

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have yet to do is under the water

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but just want

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to say that I'm in the middle of taking a knife to a course about the geology of the atom or whatever yesterday's class was about earthquakes so you remember a battery life on the island

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bad wasn't

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on the President's while

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like a big heavy truck coming along the road

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that sound like that

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it was a Sunday morning and when I walked in with the most mothers

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elements in within God's blessing like this

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oh my goodness and there was another big one What year was that? Don't

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they unscheduled?

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represent me on Vancouver Island schools

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friend the epicenter

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of North Oh

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another big one when was the

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one was when I was a boy was I don't remember

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may have been earlier

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but I remember somebody calling

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you all right

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yes, that's what I read and I

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found that the train

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rumbled yet get ready

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I've been away from my office

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for a really big one to that

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California New York No.

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many years

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grumbling worldwide

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some of them are very small we don't know that

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she went back into her house yesterday and also covered doors are open and all the pictures were fabulous I didn't notice anything

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Okay anything else you

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want to talk about in your shop or your life

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you went to the primary schools and

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the high school here at that time

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high schools

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you are interested at

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when I was a boy my brother

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oh I guess

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there was a time

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what it certainly hasn't hurt your memory since that memory I've ever heard

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good one anyway. Oh

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remember going to

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the doctor didn't end up in the hospital

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talk to my mother I don't think

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my brother gone wrong

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when I say healthy

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with going to your

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school when you're traveling

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rent run over the past 10.

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years one that grows.

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a couple of private schools.

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the island at that time. You would know them all probably

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somewhere around 1000.

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today

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the children that went to high school when they are From the high school they have to walk

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the route from project

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down to sub one of the boys with Dr.

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Walters study was

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know what

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are we talking about

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all right down the road

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all All right

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from the lake

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across the

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across the road downs because again again

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so tell me what

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rounded

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what's up

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this is metal

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plastic crap I don't

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get the right to get water out

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to the government

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they didn't supply enough

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for the whole song and then

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the more well

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wasn't enough while they still wasn't sufficient

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the worst

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combination of

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prison reform it wasn't too long before it's small

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along the

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way the hospital is now on the road no

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for an awful lot of growth because even our water supply we have a very good way to

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do that again that may be a cycle

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no one knows we run to the store so, we got to take over for the $100 a month

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November December January and February I believe

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one place not much snow

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on a float so we have over

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the telephone

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some Have you set up my water

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together

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about mid January

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digging into this

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solid ground

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once the snow was on it was

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smell love

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digging up the pipe and replacing it or just going to find it

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a small red sweater that way

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otherwise you have to put on

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some cloud

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and I got out

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sometimes I suppose

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a touch with the neighbors around

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you are very strong

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over

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your bosses

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over the Creamery and it wasn't profitable so

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we had to compete with people

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also get a little concerned about what was happening past

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the expected from around then, when Mackenzie took over Have

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you got the obstructive

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night I want from the powers that will have the following the level of regulation

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right I went to college when they were

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Mike

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Morris was messing

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with my flow free to follow through and more often

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without

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lawn mowing

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the lawn mower

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grandma's

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clothes

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knock out

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a subdivision we hope to get

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most of the

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most of the subdivisions some of them won't last for a while

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was smiling

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quite a while Oh

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that was just going ahead because when you're doing your you're crossing your lawn

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went back

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on Vancouver Island overnight

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from the highway

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that

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to do ever get loud get access

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to my photo

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the road well

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then I got in

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COVID

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all this

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all right

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we are going to come along we'll have the road right down there

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so you can walk

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right over that

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right down to the ocean

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as opposed to young coming up the second growth, growth growth

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the roads and most of them now we have found lots of them that we've been walking on all the sudden little saplings in the way that by and large

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you're running on

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your sitting down

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and writing along with you know when you wrap

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your head at one point there was a way of going across the road

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as long as

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somebody's going on

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go so

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last time we read It

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was a lab wall right

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long as you can get down off to the side that you scramble to get from the wall that's where the

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I don't know number who has

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to give out more or

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less all

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summer

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long roadside road

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stuff

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that was there before the

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salt water

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counterclockwise

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rows along

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with Oh

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my great way

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to get across

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some lumber before my time however when you have very strong the walls of the buildings on the inside of the house and you see that building from the inside was covered

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the Bank of Montreal

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really didn't have a lot of levels

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I don't think anybody has the use

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of rubber the Gulf States

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Government grant

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vote for them that

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was that was

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are wn WAC return rover wants to

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drive

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I want to morning

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about this case that she has

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around

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the to practice purple some trees and these trees

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will be planted

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right

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so she did most of the magic

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goes on some of them I don't remember

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help them with the

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lungs the lungs

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flied out to Howard

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over the course of suffering

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fellow along with

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people and

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nice to get along

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the right I didn't have much time to go

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but we have the boat

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oh

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don't do that boat

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so I found it once or twice Do you want to go on the road tomorrow

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well I don't like it

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I didn't go back to my house prices have gone down I was just $2 to have a closet a lot a lot easier

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way to

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go about

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knockabout easier work I won't go

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I got no follow

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up for eight hours

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I want to talk

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about karma

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for a lot of people

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I hope not my role is to look relaxed no

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doubt

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ready to get easier anyway

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you're ready to take it

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to do a little rest

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about when we came here was rock

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no

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I don't think we really don't remember

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we happier that was

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it declared

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s'mores

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some grandmasters what more

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we lost the

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original

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coming along

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this is between We're

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going right along

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close

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we mustn't dwell

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on although Friday

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what's going down on the mouse

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Hello

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family relapse dealing with this know the correct

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go wrong well

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bye bye

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that's what we

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want to do

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both as a mother

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on the other side

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recovering from

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a loss

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let's run along the property

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you have is a three acre piece and then there's a little chunk in the middle of it it's not even really a building lasts very long maybe

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I will release a video

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reference or something

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down inside

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fella named

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Jim for over

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an hour I guess I think we all

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are we all have