250_Davidson-Mary_McLennan-Geneology.mp3

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18.04.2023

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Speaker 1 0:00
Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. Is Mr. President, and all these people who have worked hard to get this thing set up, especially to Frank Newman, who has spent hours almost as many hours as I have. Today, I'm going to tell you about my adventures in genealogy and about the family history of my McLennan family. My very first adventure in genealogy was a herd of cattle. It in during the war, my dad had to sign up as a farmer, because he felt very guilty about being told to go to war. So he signed up as a farmer and worked on a purebred Jersey farm for the duration of the war, while the owner was off on a destroyer someplace. And all of those animals bovines had, they were in a great big book. Each one had its own page, its own genealogy, or pedigree, you might call it. And I was about 12 years old at the time, and absolutely fascinated with this genealogy. It never left. I've just carried on forever about being fascinated. And about 50 years ago, I started working on my own family tree. It seemed very, very important to discover something about these ancestors. I heard family talking about them. And I wondered about them. And so why don't you hear when I was teaching school in Surrey. in Surrey, you had to teach Surrey for the first month, a child brought a book to school. And I thought, a several of the names in that book happened to be names that I remembered my grandmother mentioning. So I wrote to the archives and Victoria, and receipt back three pages, they not only sent me information about the particular names I sent, but everybody else who had been born and raised in the area, which consisted of quite a number of my family. So that that was the beginning. One started, it's like a virus, you just cannot quit. If you're going to do family history. Just be careful. Because once you start, it'll take up pretty well your whole life, you will travel to all the places your ancestors came from. And you'll just be thrilled to death to find every little item about I was sitting one day in the the steakhouse, the Mormon center over in Victoria, and I came across the marriage of my great, great grandparents. And oh, there it is. Well, everybody around me just couldn't believe this. I mean, they all looked and they all while I guess they all have the same feeling. You know, when you find something really, really important. It's pretty, pretty exciting. When my dad didn't want me to do this, he said that he didn't want me to delve into the family history. They're all a bunch of cattle themes. Of course, he was talking about the highlanders in Scotland, as they were, it was part of the fun. You, you gather together and ran over to your neighbor's clan area and stole his capital. And if you found anybody there, you probably killed him. And then maybe another month or so later, that person would gather his clam together and come and steal all your cattle and get his capital back and kill some of you your crowd to in this. This is the way they behave that my dad said, This is why he didn't think I should do family history. But my mother said, No, that's not the reason he doesn't care about that. He doesn't want you to do family history. He doesn't want you turning up any skeletons in the closet. Well, that's all I needed. skeletons were pretty important people in my day. So anyway, I'm going to start showing you a couple of Highlanders. And that's just to entertain you while I talk. That's one of the things about cattle rustling, or whatever you want to call it is these, these are the riders, they, as you can see, they are taking somebody's cattle. And these would be lowland people, they were called thrivers. The ones up in the highlands were my family, this particular family line, they were called lifters, they they lifted calf. And these ones were the riders. And they also have this bunch also has the name the steel helmets, and their favorite place. I mean, I have ancestors in this crowd too. And their favorite thing was to go across the border and steal the capital from the English. And of course, the English, retaliated and came across in store back there.

Speaker 1 6:30
Now after I started doing this, I let all family know about it. And they just became very enthusiastic. They didn't want to help at all. But they just love to hand over pictures, and information and all kinds of clues that I could carry on. So these are four of the pictures that came to me after I started the genealogy. I don't know, three of them, I don't know. And I've tried very hard one of the my adventures was to go to Inverness, and try to find out from the photographer, who these people are. The second one is the Alexander Clemens brother in law. And he also was Alexander McLemore. And I believe the first one is a McCray, but the other two wild looking Scots, like no idea who they are. This lady is Helen McCray. She is my great great grandmother. And it's through her that I really got keen on finding out about the Highlanders. She was the one who opened up the whole spectrum of the Jacobites. They were the ones who were supporting Bonnie Prince Charming. But he was sort of later they supported his father as well. They would gather together and fight the way Highlanders fought, which was without too much discipline. And many, many died in their battles against the English. But they were very determined to put Bonnie Prince Charlie on the throne. And they worked hard on it. And through Helen, my great great grandmother, Helen McCray. That's my grandfather's grandmother. I discovered a huge amount about these people. And the McRae's This is Flanders fields which is very appropriate for today. And I'm sorry that I haven't got my pot Poppy on because I've lost three or four of them since they've been selling them this year. Flanders Fields was written by John McCrae he was actually a major as a surgeon in world war one this is a McCrea. little write up I found on the internet that I thought was quite attractive. You can see them a great part. And the after I got this working on these Jacobites and learning about Helen McRae I found claim histories in the National Library in Edinburgh. I found all kinds of claim histories and books about them. participants in the final war between the English and the clowns. This picture has the middle missing owner but but you can see the clowns. Totally undisciplined, they roared in they they killed people as fast as they could. But the English lines were totally disciplined. They had fabulous equipment and they wiped out the clouds there's a clan, McCrea history in which nearly everyone mentioned in the book is either a direct line ancestor, a relation to my ancestors, or therefore, and therefore to me. Because the Highland clans are all interrelated, I found ancestors in all the other clan histories as well. Once they were named in the clan histories, and other general history books, the research became relatively easy and the tree grew by leaps and bounds. Right back to 1000 ad, where I found several someone who was born about 1000 and died about 1056. He was the progenitor of Clan Donald, at the lords of the isles of direct line ancestors. As time went on, heavy ones DNA tested became very popular, so I thought I would try it. In order to qualify for DNA. Info, I used my brother's cheeks swab to send in for analysis, because the cheapest and initial analysis is the paternal or Y line. I was always curious to know if the infant born to the 15 year old mother, married by arrangement to an 80 year or 90 year old Baron or URL was really hills. And I incorrectly thought that DNA would give me an answer. Of course it couldn't unless somebody dug up the bones. What DNA did tell me however, is that I'm probably not in McLennan at all. Number Craig. There has not been one DNA McLennan match. But literally hundreds of McCray close matches. I have traced them a cleanse back with the information proven to the early 1700s. So before that either was adopted by Muslim or a pregnant widow or girlfriend of a McCrea was married to him. Or McCray, somewhere in the 1600s. And McCray changed his name. Two clowns live side by side. So anything is possible. Since how my great grandmother great grandmother was a McCray and the feed back into the mists of time that doesn't much matter what happens in the 73 century, as the ancestors are the same. Another item of interest that the DNA proves is that my ancestors were already Scots or Picts, categorized as our one b one a two, you get categorized with you sending your cheek swab to be to have the DNA analysis. The pics were the aboriginals of Scotland. The same blue hordes. Now, I don't know why these ones. Oh, they turned blue. Oh, good. How did you do that? Right? They were red before anyway, the same blue boards that were able to hold back the Romans, who had hidden behind Hadrian's Wall and finally gave up trying to conquer the pigs. It wasn't until the first priests such as Columba began to infiltrate Pictish lands that the northern parts of Scotland became Christianized. Now these are the ancestors of my clan

Unknown Speaker 14:38
talking about the requirements

Speaker 1 14:50
there's Columbo had forgotten to put him up, sorry. Now for a history of Saltspring McLennan family. Alexander McLennan. was born in the parish of Glen shield in the area called kintail. Coffee for Ross Shire in the Northwest highlands of Scotland, where his forebears had lived for countless generations. forbearers of his grandmother Helen McRae, were watched the constables of the London in Castle.

Speaker 1 15:28
At the time a stronghold of Clan Mackenzie, the McRae's as well as the cleanse were small clans and therefore retainers of Clan Mackenzie, and for the most part fought for them and with them in clan feuds. This is a picture of the kind of village that they lived in. And believe it or not, it wasn't much different. The first time I went to Scotland, the thatch was gone. But the house was pretty well the same. Not much bigger either. And I don't know how they all got in there because all their servants slept in there to outsiders father, Ewan McLennan, planter and merchant out of Jamaica had died when he was only five years old. The well educated there were no viable prospects for an educated young man but gentle birth. He could have joined the army as an officer but Alec was not interested in being a soldier. There were no trades for which he was qualified or showed any inclination or potential. Halak was a studious, well read intellectual type of person. If the family had been wealthy, he could have furthered his education or become a taxman spelled T AC K. TaxMan, which is the Highland equivalent of a gentleman farmer. But they weren't very well off after Alec's father died. So at the age of 17, Alex set off to join two of his uncles who are already settled in Canada, in Ontario with families and good positions. After working with both of the uncles intern Robert McLennan and Williams towns in Geary County, Ontario who was a teacher and Alexander McLennan in Forney Ville, Ontario, a postmaster and grocer and obtaining some further education joined a cousin Broderick McLennan as a secretary and surveyor for the building of the CPR through the Rockies and to the west coast. This picture is my grandfather Alexander at age about 17. When he arrived in Canada, the picture was taken in Montreal. And while this is a picture of of galaxy and I don't know if he he's in the picture or if he even got there, but he did work through the Rockies with his cousin Robert and Robert kleinen. was in in gene barman's book. And he was the men that worked for him were classified as Roger McLennan acts as a Annex II s because they chop the way through. And apparently my grandfather was the surveyor on that crew. During a furlough in what is now downtown Vancouver, Alec purchase a large lot for $100. He sold that 10 years later for $5,550. And for that time, that was quite good money. Of course, by then he was here on the island. When the CPR work was completed, Alec settled in Victoria and Victoria is the bottom part of this picture that's up here. Then Coover is the top part and victorious part. He settled in Victoria, where he worked in a man's clothing store, through mutual friends he met his bride to be and there's a bit so that's the preliminary on Alec now we'll go on to Elizabeth Elizabeth was born in a block house or a lock house in Kingston Mills, Ontario. Her grandfather John Sargent was a retired minor in the sappers and miners regiment of the Royal Engineers under Colonel Bob Brought to Canada to build the Rideau Canal. When the reader canal was completed, John took the option of remaining in Canada and was given a preemption of land on which to build the homestead. John was employed at Bullock near his preemption. He married Elizabeth Murray, an illiterate Irish immigrant, and they had nine children. The eldest, Jane Sargent was Elizabeth's mother and was also born in Kingston mills. That's one picture of the of the lock house or block house and that's a painting of the Rideau Canal. You can see the what do they call the locks of the side of the hill there and that's a picture of Elizabeth's mother Jane as the blockhouse that my grandmother was probably born in the family tradition said she was born in blockhouse but I think this is a law close. So I'm not just sure if that is where she was born. But on the 8051 census, the family were living in the basement, have a walk house, and that's probably where they were living in the lower part of that building. Elizabeth's father James Dunn, who was also a Scot, or near Mark Rose was an engineer who have decided that Ontario did not offer enough incentives for an enterprising man. So we packed up his family when the St. Lawrence River as the great lakes were frozen over. In the sleigh, they crossed over the ice to the Americans slide and proceeded to Boston, where they boarded a ship to Panama. From the dock dock in Panama, they took a train across the isthmus and barked on the other side and sailed up the coast to San Mateo where James drilled artesian wells, probably for the water supply for the city of San Francisco. James didn't care for the Republican outlook and miss the Union Jack. At the time there was a lot of controversy about water supply for San Francisco, a lot of very nasty fighting, and it probably was just a bit too much for him. So he moved his family to Parsons bridge in the sky malt, where they directly ski cast classified him as a farmer. Jane died July first 1875. That's great flower school were Elizabeth's attended and I presume the rest of the family attended. At that time that she died or just before she died. She was the oldest person the oldest living person who has attended Craig flower school is still there. So Jane died July the first 1875 and is buried in ROSS Bay cemetery. Agnes and another cousin and I went and found the grave. We didn't have to search very long because the Presbyterian section is right near the road and right near Sir James Douglass Cenotaph. So the gravestone inscription includes a newborn baby, which is probably the reason for her death, and a little boy who died of chickenpox and he died a year or so before she did. Besides her husband James and daughter, Elizabeth Jane Bev, mother, daughter, Martha and three sons, Edward, Robert and Alexander. Alexander, mom's sorry. Alec met at the home of friends and remarried by a Presbyterian minister in 1879. They appeared on the 1881 census in James Bay Victoria, along with their first two children Robert Kuhn and Alexandre Edward go back to them. This probably is the picture that was taken. They each had their picture taken, I believe, at the time of their marriage.

Speaker 1 25:11
And those are the two children, you and Alexander. One day Henry Rocco came into the men's clothing store where Alec worked. Henry and Alec had become friends by Henry buying his clothing there, and Henry asked Alec to preempt property on Saltspring island that had recently become available. When the original presenter had died. Henry Rocco did this sort of thing he, he gathered settlers for Saltspring and grandpa was one of them.

Speaker 1 25:59
Thought this was a good idea. So he went with Henry Rocco by train and roll to the reco farm at Beaver point. From there, the two men went to look at the available land. The next day, Alec was rolled back to Sydney and quickly returned to Victoria to legally preempt the 200 acres of land, which he named Glenn shield farm. There were tool log buildings on the land, which were incorporated into a log house. One of them became the kitchen and the other the dining room. Two bedrooms were added downstairs and two more upstairs. When the building was complete, Elizabeth and the two little boys were brought over and thus the family was established on Saltspring. at Beaver point on Saltspring HP Navy three a little girl joined the family. Ellen Jane was premature and under four pounds at birth. She spent her first weeks in a basket on the open door and innovative incubator that Stewart was born a couple of years later, and according to family tradition weighed in at 16. It is possible that Elizabeth suffered from gestational diabetes, just in case when the next baby was nearing term. Elizabeth went to Sydney to stay with Alex's cousin, Jessie McCray birth who was now This is Wesley presser and an experienced midwife. Jessie breath in McLennan name for Jessie breath or was the first European child born in Sydney. There were no complications whatsoever in Jesse's birth. Elizabeth am, I'm sorry, and Elizabeth, followed in 1893 and Margaret Christina in 1895. This picture shows Jessie and Annie she was called anybody family, but we call her and now because it it was something she liked. And Maggie is the one by herself and their picture. They actually these Frank took these out of our school picture, which was quite nice to have to have them separate the bone up like that so we can see them.

Speaker 1 28:46
Elizabeth no doubt thought their childbearing years were over. But and 19 to along came the caboose Robert Murray. As usual in large farm families, all the children were taught from their early years to be useful, contributing members of firstly, their family unit and the major in the community. The year before the birth of their last child, Robert Murray, Aleksandr and Elizabeth lost their eldest son, Robert few of you and have received a minor foot while working on the farm. As is the case with young men. He didn't complain about it until the cup until it was seriously infected. It is set him up on a stool beside the stove with his hand in hot water. The usual thing to do for blood poisoning in those days, but it was too late. When the doctor was called. There was nothing that could be done to save you and his grave is the first Just in the yard of the recently open for boys

Speaker 1 30:09
within a few years of his arrival on Saltspring Alekan Henry Rocco, along with some of the other early settlers at Beaver point, decided to build a school on land donated by Theodore tricky. Sam Bendis and his son Charles beaver point school which is still there today, much as it was when constructed in 1885. But now it's called Little Red and painted that color instead of school board gray around at the same time, and for many years thereafter, Alex was renovating and enlarging the McClendon house. Now if you will, you can see the log part of the house behind the family in front of it. You can see all the long parts there. And this was before the kitchen was built on that. To the left is a sealed kitchen. I think these two pictures were probably made about the same time because it's pretty well the same background.

Speaker 1 31:32
First, a new kitchen was built on the old long building moved off to become a storage ship. Over the years a large addition was built on the front of the house consisting of a living room and two bedrooms downstairs with two more bedrooms upstairs Oh

Speaker 1 32:01
I thought that was one that was Oh, okay. Okay, this is a picture of the picnic at school picnic at Beaver point. My grandfather is the first person on the left. And that was the second. Mrs. Elford. reticle is the lady with her hand on her hip in the middle. The bat. Grandma is the one with the blackcap just behind Mrs. Runkle. All these people have been identified and this picture is on the internet. Besides being one of the founders of the school, Eric was a board member and long serving secretary. He was also responsible for a large part portion of the school population. You he was postmaster for beaver point and his short time was justice of the peace. Now, I didn't care for the latter position, as he didn't like being involved in the private affairs of his neighbors. One of the main jobs of the Jaypee in those times was arbitrator of property lines. As there was a tendency in those days to move survey posts in order to enhance one's property. Alex reputation Alex reputation was highly respected and when he was called as a witness. In Maria McCoy's struggle to inherit Russell island the property left to her by her father or foster father's cannot avail. Alex testimony he was instrumental in aiding her to win her case. This is the first of the second son. The first set, of course, died, the second son of Alexander Elizabeth, and he's Alexander Edward, a big bond fellow who left home to work as a guard in the Wilkinson row prison in Saanich. Vator he Ewan McLennan, a customer from Scotland had a sheep farm in channel, Oregon. And still later Alexander and his wife Maggie Todd Robertson, ran the hotel in shackle. They have three children and they retired to a pleasant rural acreage in Bend, Oregon. Alexandre Edward died of rheumatoid arthritis at age 89. Ellen Jane was a tiny person all her life at age two about 20. Ellen went to Oregon to housekeep for her brother and her cousin. She married her cousin Yun and they had three children. ever told me once about a time when she was about six years old, she saw the older children picking pitfall for tree trunks and chewing up. So she picked some pitch off the woodpile and enjoyed it you. Ellen enjoyed the tooth so much that pitch chewing became a habit. Soon, she was not feeling very well. So this took her over to Victoria, to visit Dr. Hill can their family doctor, she said she was terrified of the saw she saw hanging on the wall. The diagnosis was imbibing turpentine, so there was no more pitch chewing for Ellen. Ellen also remembered a very tall, good looking man from to visit the family. He turned out to be her mother's youngest brother, who was a Northwest motive policeman on a short leave to visit his sister. Ellen was always very, very helpful with the family genealogy. Her mind was clear and her memory Excellent. She died of natural causes in Portland, Oregon, age 89. That was Stuart was the one who stayed home and helped his father run the farm, which grew to over 600 acres as Alex Sr. continued to add to the property by preemptions. They had one son, she Stuart McClendon who served in the Canadian Navy in World War Two, and was an engineer on BC Ferries for many years. Colorista died while still quite young at Douglass Stewart live with Alex Elizabeth until Douglas married again six years later. After Alexandria died Douglas inherited two thirds of the original farm. He later sold the his portion of the farm, retired and moved to Victoria. He died in some Peninsula hospital out prostate cancer at age 89. Now that picture is my mother and father and Jessie and Douglas sitting in the wheelchair in front.

Speaker 1 37:28
Jesse took training and became a millionaire in Victoria where she met Alfred Williams Sonico longtime pioneer family in the squire mill Alfred became a teacher and taught his first year also spring Wow were they living on Saltspring elephant became I'm sorry, Alfred and a friend. The house where George and Fran laundry live now. Jesse and Alfred Williams married in Victoria, and they've most of their married life in Vancouver where they reached three raised three sons, Lawrence Williams, their eldest son, taught his first year on reed island, where all the pupils were the children of Joe Sylvie Jesse was just a couple of months off the age of 104 when she died in Vancouver, still as bright and alert as ever. And Elizabeth remained at home until she married William Stewart, son of John Stuart, who owns the John Stuart shoe store in Victoria after living in Victoria for a short time and then we'll move to Vancouver where they had three children the youngest side missed a whole bunch of these sorry about that not moving it quit moving

Speaker 1 39:15
Oh, I bet I did. Sorry. Thank you. For this picture in the car this is Jesse and L. Williams with two of their children. And this is an early Elizabeth Okay, the youngest being society lifetime member at Miss Cunningham, who's sitting in the front row view and died on Saltspring at age 91. Barbara Christina is better known to solve springers as Maggie Lee Maggie three remained at home until she married World War One veteran Hudson Valley. Maggie and Hudson lived in the original in the house behind Holly farm at across the road from burgling the church. They ran the very large farm have two sons, Arthur the elder, who was killed in Italy in World War Two, and allover, the younger son, who remained at home until he finished school, and was later employed for many years as a lineman for BC Hydro and BC. Electric BC electric BC Hydro. Maggie no widow, sold the farm in 1957 and moved to Victoria. The original farmhouse has been torn down, and it appears that some of the land has been subdivided off the original property. Maggie to live to be 93 years old and died after spending a short time in a James Bay nursing home. Robert Murray my dad, called Marie by his family and bought by his co workers and men friends. Murray finished grade eight at Beaver point School where he entered at age three. In those days, the little one room schools had to have a population of 10 in order for the Department of Education to provide a teacher so it was a fairly, it was fairly common in DC for children start school as soon as they were out of nappies. Murray took advantage of Tommy Isherwood, a favorite teacher who boarded with the McLennan family, Marie like to be able to, so he took correspondence courses and became certified in joinery and cabinet making. Because these courses contained a lot of higher mathematics, Murray was very grateful for Tommy's help. As soon as he was of age, Murray was off to Vancouver to work with his brother in law, Alfred Williams. Alfred continued to teach school while Murray worked on the house they had under construction. Then they both worked weekends and holidays, as carpenters, Alfred Marie are responsible for many of the homes still standing in Vancouver's west side. One way today when Marie was home because of the weather, Emily Patterson sent a message to invite him for a game of 500 sort of easy type of bridge, but a little more difficult and whist. She added that the new teacher had arrived and of course the new teacher bordered with the Pattersons down at right at the beaver point drop.

Speaker 1 43:06
Well, Maria and his buddy Norman Rupal were sort of fed up with being with someone tried to set them up with the new teachers, of which there were many be report school, so they decided to decline the invitation. However, their curiosity got the better of them, so they did arrive very late, and the card game went on until the wee small hours. The next evening, Emily sister Mrs. Curley invited the new teacher for dinner and art Hepburn was invited as well. Maybe the ladies thought that a little bit of competition would move things along. That's a picture of the new teacher sitting in the middle there. My mom in 1929, Alexandre and Elizabeth McLennan celebrated their golden wedding anniversary with Saltspring islanders coming from all over the island. It was a big celebration as 50 years of marriage was a rare event in those days. In this picture, you can see quite a number of people in the crowd. Just to the left to the lady in black standing beside Elizabeth is Jesse Toynbee and two of the Toynbee boys. And on the far right is the father of Mrs. Colin Mowat. Yes, anyway, the whole crowd there that the family is close around, and the rest of those people are friends and neighbors and visitors

Speaker 1 45:17
Murray won out over our hamper and in the following October Marie McLennan and Dorothy Dewar were married in Victoria the home with the bride's parents. Marie and Dorothy lived in Vancouver and were very continued to work as a carpenter. They had a daughter Mary, born in 1930. Alexander died of prostate cancer in 1932, at age 87, and the left the stipulation in his will that Murray would inherit to under 200 acres of the original property. If he would come home and take care of his mother Elizabeth Douglas inherited the other 400 acres. So the little family packed up and returned to Salt Spring Murray Farm for the next few years. Their second daughter Jean was born in 1933. But it was depression time at the farm failed. Elizabeth went to live with Maggie, where she lived to be 82. And Marie and family moved to downtown where Marie was able to get a job. As long as Elizabeth was alive, the family visited Saltspring Awesome. That's the grave and it's in the Burgoyne churchyard. That's a picture of grandma's birthday. As long as Elizabeth was alive, the family visited Saltspring cloth and along with all the other brothers and sisters. The McLennan property was rented first to the Chester K family, longtime friends and neighbors and finally sold to strangers in 1944. The strangers just wanted it for the timber, so we didn't stay long. After several owners, Glen shiel farm is now owned by longtime friends. The Stephens family of beaver point. Murthy Moran, Dorothy's son Robert was born in Duncan in 1938. After a few years in Duncan, the family moved to Victoria in 1939, where Murray joined the militia and was an air raid warden. But to his way of thinking that wasn't enough for the war effort, so he gave up his job and signed up as a farmer. That family moved to sandwiched and the family moved to Saanich where Marie was the herdsmen on a large Jersey dairy farm while the owner was away serving on a destroyer. When the war was over, the family moved out to deep cove where we had our own little farm, Murray drove for the Saanich free and built houses in his spare time, many of which we lived in until finished and sold. We moved out a lot. Maria died of prostate cancer at the early age of 77. He smoked for many years. So we believe that is the reason he didn't have the long life enjoyed by his siblings during the late 1980s and early 1990s. The descendants of Alexander Stewart McLennan and Elizabeth held several reunions where relatives came from foreign one to celebrate our family

Unknown Speaker 48:45
thank you for your attention

Speaker 2 49:00
Thank you very much, Mary. That was really interesting and well see the family tree put together and Mary also has produced a small book of her family history and it's available in the back for $15 with all profits going to the archives if you're interested in having a look at it doesn't mention pictures. So you have any questions for Mary. Anybody wants to follow up in any big sunken

Unknown Speaker 49:24
capture some of you must know something

Unknown Speaker 49:30
interesting because my dad always said the heifers lived on the borders for cheap

Unknown Speaker 49:39
I was going to mention them. But we were mentioned me several times about this

Unknown Speaker 49:51
original family house still don't

Speaker 1 49:54
know if the students used it to build their houses. Okay, and This

Speaker 3 50:01
is my wedge a couple of times. And the the stone foundation has quite a few of the walls. But nothing. Thank you.

Speaker 2 50:15
Any other covered within society. Right. Any other questions? Well, Mary's still a spot true and true. She's got her kilt on. So that's that's always interesting. Thank you for that. There's a question back there, I think I saw a hand Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 1 50:30
block or block houses were built the way they were? Well, that would be if it was a blocker proceed with the army. And that would be for the idea of being able to shoot down. They didn't pass the same way.

Speaker 4 50:55
Friends in the in cheerio, nary a mustard crate. And they used to over Scotland, to the to get in contact with some more or their relatives. So invited me you're around? Well,

Speaker 1 51:15
a couple clowns have clan associations, and they have clan gatherings. And there are a number of branches in Canada, for all the different places, almost every class has a branch in Canada. But in Scotland, it's you know, it's an adventure to go over there. And not only that, you go to the client Gavi, which is just really a long weekend, Friday, Saturday, Sunday type of thing. So then you've got time to do research. And you've got to go to Edinburgh, and then you go to the National Library or the register house. So Scotland is very, very good on records. I don't think there's another country in the world that does as well as Scotland, and then go to Scotland's people on the internet costs a little bit, but not a huge amount cheaper than going home and give all the records are there. Everything they way back home I can't remember how long ago was but they got all of the records out of the churches, and we're all in one place all the time.

Speaker 3 52:35
So if you're doing genealogy,

Speaker 1 52:39
because you're responding, it's not a very difficult thing to do.

Unknown Speaker 52:44
It's really

Unknown Speaker 52:47
it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 52:50
I understood that some of the records can be moved to Somerset House. In England. That's an England. Yeah. And I understood that some of the records are undesirable.

Unknown Speaker 53:09
Very

Unknown Speaker 53:12
any other comments, questions? Yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5 53:16
I was wondering if you could describe the people where the farm was on the record, because I know where it is. But some people say one day,

Unknown Speaker 53:25
okay, if you go along, and you're going to record

Speaker 1 53:29
if some you pass Give me three rolls, and you sort of go down Have a great day. And there's a house there which is the house that Douglas well actually the medicine is built for Douglas when he married purpose and that is the beginning of farm that is what it's called the planet draw now, but it's a new world for the

Speaker 3 53:58
payer for and then the farm

Speaker 1 54:04
that's what farm is. It's I don't know how I could describe. I don't know what what's the street that there's a road that goes up the hill now.

Speaker 3 54:16
It's a new album. Right across from the bar.

Unknown Speaker 54:24
Car Jeez.

Speaker 1 54:26
I don't know if any of you are aware that the planet is parked and the cloud is bound to call it was painted by

Unknown Speaker 54:41
No. Names leave me I'm very sorry to say

Unknown Speaker 54:51
here. Right now

Speaker 1 54:55
it's quite scary. So I have a bunch of prints made before was quite a family. And because Tommy had heard about this one, I think Karen Archer, one of my cousin's found the original over in commensal Yarrow gallery in Sydney. But by the time she went to buy it was gone and the owner will not sell it. So I got in touch with Carol and they made copies, prints for the family on order and so find a number of standing have prints of McLennan Valley is a very nice painting and quite really

Speaker 3 55:44
well with everlasting summer be part of the family's farm was one everlasting summer that yes, that was sort of the everlasting summer.

Speaker 1 55:57
Actually, the profits made the book when they bought rental car. And the McLaren family is in the book as well as persons because they were all in the kind of property, Russell park property above each other. And it was a kind of a crooked

Unknown Speaker 56:21
fence line. And when

Speaker 1 56:25
Rocco Park was purchased, that's one extreme so, so our family's

Unknown Speaker 56:33
record for the record part. But

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at least one copy is in.

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Any other comments, questions appear? Well,

Speaker 1 56:50
there's some wine and spirits stones property. But he lives in Sydney. I mean, what is it? 9980 9989.

Speaker 3 57:02
So I don't think he even comes over anymore.

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Well, last question, Don, go ahead. I

Speaker 6 57:11
remember working with Stuart on the theory of flow for engineer there and it was very few things Stuart Mill on engine and he could if it wasn't written on paper, he could figure it out.