Salt Spring Island Archives
240_Malcom-Bond.mp3
otter.ai
18.04.2023
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yeah
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yeah no hit borough horse in the neighbor
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the neighbor to plow it yeah no no wagon
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you hold these potatoes up from the 100 songs well he's
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talking about beating the depression he hadn't sold a bag of potatoes before Christmas with the full front of the door prize he wasn't
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40 was basically supply in the story
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it is
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self sufficient
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probably
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except out of seasons until 1965
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He was the only major vegetable producer
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he had four acres of vegetables and another five and
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the number of them to produce Potato
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Potato
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Lily Palmer
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was probably at the peak around 150 times
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in the wintertime
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a couple times that kind of person
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needs to know level of supply both the trading company and more
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generous until about the end of April
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and then
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by the 60s they were starting to bring stuff into California
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what changed it all was a what the economics of transport
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when you when you look at today
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the wholesale price for a lead us to the 1960s
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I don't think the wholesale price
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anymore the
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wages are 10 times or more
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everything
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you're looking at more than 10 times
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the product there's only five
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people on the island selling organic
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things that are well
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if you if society was flush enough for money nobody was able to charge
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everybody's got to
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pay $2 for a letter
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are saying the farmers in those days are doing better because they're they got a better they got a better
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they didn't have
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you could be today competing with a farmer in Chile
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or a farmer that wasn't possible
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transportation
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and I hope I didn't expect perfect oh perfect vegetables. Anybody wasn't 100 Wild I have been surprised for you they'll change their mind and yeah we won't get any oranges in
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yours unless you're unless you're free to juice
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you won't get anything
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all original canta during the winter
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my mother
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you had campaigns as a kid growing up
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me shipping
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Are you the elder
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on the farm she was in the
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she's ever been there she couldn't wait to get
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back here later. Okay
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Do you remember your earliest memory?
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Oh
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it's hard to say but I can remember
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my dad put the flag on the aerial of a car
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with the backbone was
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the other union job and
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it's an interesting thing, how certain things take their opinion on people and causes
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and having them through the First World War.
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And having said that, on Vinnie rich, looking out over
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To do playing in sci fi in the German army retreated back to Germany in 1980. And in perfect order.
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Jimmy Bradley over from 10 will be added again
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because they were in perfect order, they were in perfect order.
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There wasn't a sense of disarray that went offshore. He was
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he was absolutely
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Colin Cameron, the CCF member of parliament,
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in the House of Commons, and declaring the 1939 that we should not go to war with.
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German forever against the CCF community would never support
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those guys are guilty of criminal acts.
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We didn't know about the Holocaust,
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but he knew he knew
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it has to be done.
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How badly did they treat German farmers?
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In the Second World War, we never had any German farmers. In the second world we have the odd one but
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not definitely.
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Ontario they tell him
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Oh sure. You know a dairy farmer. They just quit picking up his mouth because
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I was talking about
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the Japanese
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the concern was
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total fame on the visit
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was in 1939.
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They came up with 1000 Total he was a major architect
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probably the biggest injustice was the conversation that
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was a very real
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they haven't showed up for Tojo.
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Probably nothing would happen
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if we came up
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with
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a better book on that.
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He was he was a major warlord.
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Had he been rattling the saber as early as 39? Or was he not really known to be
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an advocate of Japanese Imperialism after all he thinks
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Japanese war
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but would they have perceived in his visit in 1939 and
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not really
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affordable
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1941
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Obviously
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the question is what are you doing over here
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and of course the personal work
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here from Berlin
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I was amazed that in lady Smith there's a building with swastikas all over the top and that made it to the ward this one is a very very old
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town in northern Ontario called twice that name was in existence every second
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Milka my I gotta run but
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I have to get together with you with some films. Yep, good. Yeah. And can I leave that here for a minute so recorded?
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I can't I can't see all afternoon so
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a guy walks into a bar and he said I'll bet ya how many doors have you gotten the equipment to instead I'll bet you the three.
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Back Door the front door and the customer touch the door.
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You when You mentioned how many times your father's about how much are you producing now? Oh, potatoes.
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I think I did about two tonnes last year.
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isn't even what I said a few down to 50
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cents a grocer but it isn't even worth the effort.
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We produce
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well
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60,000 pounds
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corn this year is gonna have quite a queen crop. I look for somebody late but
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I don't know it'd be a couple of 1000 dozen.
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The other vegetables that don't produce probably about five times.
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I put in a pile of
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gravel with
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I think we use
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gave it for the most part because in the valley area can't get on that ground until the 24th of May, generally speaking, trust the rest plays a big problem on auditors.
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And
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I believe we never had a problem. And I think that's the major reason
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it doesn't like the latest season for some reason.
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Cabbage bag holders
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if I put if I put an acre cabbage and tonifies him down there like he has to put in, you'd have to do something or you
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have you lose a third of your pastimes just like that. Maybe maybe gone to the
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cabbage bank. I don't know where they come from because they must have another
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wild plant or something that they play this on because
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if they don't go cabbage for years
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they'll be there
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very solid and taught he do it. 20 odd years ago we had to place when
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my dad died he thought he got a bunch of cabbage
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I'm gonna put them down on those cabbages when you put them in the ground.
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Although I'm putting married
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I got married every time. And I went over there about a month after he put the cabbage in this is very fast the 30 year cabbage. What
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if he wasn't he wasn't a farmer.
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Third one is dead. Pull them up. There's all kinds of mega pop, the other ones are stunted.
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And others marigold ideas. They're gonna stop the cabbage mega
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epidemic.
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I have a suspicion
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experiment.
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I got a suspicion you could probably stop the assault.
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Because it smells very similar to dazzle. Okay, and
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you have to put it right around where the
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lady is on the path to learn throws down into the
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news with a granule when you put the granule
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root into the ground
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and it would stop.
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But I think you could do it if you find the right. Let's know.
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How can you make you know the
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produce that your father took off in the year? How did he do that?
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He had a mechanical digger behind the tractor and then usually Thanksgiving weekend or there abouts. He'd hire about 25 people. And they put him in
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bags.
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And he had the root cellar and he had a root cellar set up to get back the pickup truck to the loading dock and they just opened the top of the top
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and he's been with all five.
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So
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he'd have about 20 odd people picking him up in the field and a couple of people hauling
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they picked up the harvest. Well he did about 80 times
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and it takes about three days
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care you might think of becoming a little bit later and going to other fellows and probably for four to five tons of character
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it comes back to your point about cheap and expensive labor. Oh
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Well Bob has been through all that he grew up with George metaphor.
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And that was that was a laborious
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Yeah.
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Metaphors over his losses. Okay. They had 1000s of acres.
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data fields ready to fit off the ferry on the left hand side okay. 60 acres
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behind the pickup steel wire. Pickup baler Titan wire
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loves out everyday. My blisters had blisters and those blisters
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with the gloves with the gloves. Yeah.
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You know right behind that this air. Call this duck right behind the worst part of the desk. Well you know what
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he needs to smoke
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they used to go a lot of beans to green beans. Because I had a cousin, a two cousins, girls who came out one from California and the other from Saskatchewan and they worked instead of for Beanfield for
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a couple of weeks they convened those went to calories.
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They had one year they had a well that a couple
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From St. Catharines, Ontario and they couldn't speak English
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they could speak a little bit of English. Basically French
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did your father ever have a problem getting feed or anything like that? Or was it fairly easy to get?
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I don't, I can't remember the early assignment, a seed catalog came into the husband, because it was before my time. Thanks. Now.
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What happened was
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as a kid growing up, he would he'd have Stokes catalog with FTM t that McFadden, McFadden's he did an interview.
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If there was a seed catalog in Canada, he would have only a copy from
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most of the seeds he got from Stokes,
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and I still get most of my seeds for Stokes. The reason I got them from Stokes is not only are they in the forefront
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plenty, but you get a germination percentage on every seat.
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Heck, a lot different than Wescoe seeds
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Wesco seeds, good seeds
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this was supposed to be put in the ground, you know it's gonna germinate.
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But your father must have a natural talent, because you don't just start that sort of thing and get no because he would learn a certain amount of books but
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they had a home garden for the place that they didn't go to sell
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the jerseys.
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Any red and Dick coil used to tell a good story of my dad.
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I remember your dad going to everything.
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He said, You know it was an all day trip to go to Agassi and then an all day trip to get back. He said
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Jesse goes to Agassi and
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we get we said when he got back Jesse What did you find out?
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Find out just about the same way I'm doing it
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he didn't have a carrot play problem.
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He's had nicer than he had his old touch of the Washington.
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Boy you had to
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mix it
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with rubber.
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He took the saddle and put it rather baffled.
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The It wasn't much different. I was over spiders place on 14th Avenue.
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Springer's had the old back Kennedy 560 acres there.
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Do a lot of vegetables. And springs have built themselves a carrot
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root washer.
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And it was a cylinder about that larger diameter about 10 foot long on a slight slope. So
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the rubber paddles and brushes were in a spiral.
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They put water straight
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up the character millennium and they came up
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with a beat. Yeah.
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I was there about
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10 years ago before they converted most of the winners. Jim
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taken over it was that Darien they had put in a potato Washington bagging machine.
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Jim had been down to a vegetable convention in Colorado
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and this was a $36,000 machine
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washed the potatoes and it dried them
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and a bag that it took for him and
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it could be two times an
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amazing
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photograph I took a photograph
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of some young guy was trying to pick her up a note. That's right. Yeah.
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You got Jeanne and Jesse and I can't remember his name his name either.
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It was the was the
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what was his name?
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Do you remember?
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Jim something from the gym the gym? I think it was?
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Yeah.
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No ghetto or something like
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that.
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Oh, you got that? Yeah, or one of the album at home. So your father really was the starter of the market. He was one of the first
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to some extent.
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It was a retirement project he
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he basically told the guys
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Have
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these other guys
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really died
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to put
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himself
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he was he was here the night before. We're doing magic lantern
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fly collection
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at the farmers Institute
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fall fair when I went to pick the vegetable for next morning and
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when the home was only loaded up the trailer Got the trailer through the gate, close the gate, climbed on the tractor and he died there.
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Still in neutral
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83
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What's the last day of his life? Yeah. Good. Way to go.
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Very nice. I gotta go on my exercise by
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God used to tell a funny story about my dad
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bumped into him at last his funeral. And
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he says your dad worked too hard.
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And then he thought for a moment because No, he didn't want that. He was in pretty good shape at 83 when he died. But you know, an example of him working too hard as
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a teenager and we went up there. He's plowing the valley with Dolly the horse.
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He didn't even stop take a leak. He just had one hand
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couldn't stop the rhythm of the horse? Yeah, that's
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amazing. He used to refer to the horse as a painful memory. Yeah, they weren't easy.
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Oh, yeah. Andrew on the plane for a second Kevin
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works in the opposite first kiddies.
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The other.
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Emily's home for the weekend. She's in language, the youngest one.
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oldest girl, third one. She married a couple of bands.
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And then the fourth kid he just finished his third year in medical school. So
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was your father a bit of a philosopher too? Did he talk? No.
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He was pretty quiet. Well, you ever got him involved in public affairs.
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He was a good soccer player as a kid.
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I remember even though he was 48 when I was born. We had a high school team who came down there in the 60s and he could probably kick the ball around better than any of the kids but
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that's where Emily cut the soccer skills from okay
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well she ended up with a soccer scholarship
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the Canadian universities talking
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with he went to give you give you advice or that or was he more quiet when he would on occasion
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he would on occasion he
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he he couldn't stand
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this honesty and other people
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he wouldn't be loud about it
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used to be one of the things that
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because of the board first off and then Bullock kept on having orphans.
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The older he gets the new ones.
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The good. He was
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the 1920 tour. My dad was the 96 Okay, buddy
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was a guy named Bill and Bill
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would have in the 1930s when he was old enough to join the army.
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But my dad got when the curry was gonna hit the old man Bullock up for some money to buy a motorcycle.
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And my dad went over to see bullet. I don't know what to say curry. And over the bullets.
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I guess
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I forgot to tell the story.
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I got ahold of curry. I just told him I said look your career. Don't you ever try to hit the old man up for money or you're gonna have to deal with me.
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He's given you a place to live since he was 12 years old. He's taught you some things and you treat him with respect.
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That was
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that was the most rapidly of all, because there's no question about it. Apparently the only one that bullet got the keynote on.
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Bullock was quite incredible. Let me
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and you look back at what he did.
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Yeah, but a good one, but a good.
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Yeah.
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So can I ask you a question about the art? Do you know anything about much about the art? No, no.
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I got
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Do you know what this circuit was? Was there a priest that came once a month or anything? I just I bought the art. Did you know about the art Marshall would know is Marshall.
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Church.
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Yeah, well, this court built at first, a family church, but Marshall, he probably told me more about it if he just did that history of facilities, Central Hall. Oh.
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And
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we were seeing grades in school here for 12 years. Right.
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Because I think there were, I think, if we did a bit of a circuit
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Dance Academy, and they did you know,
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I couldn't tell you because as a kid, the Catholic priest on the island was a father under the air.
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Certainly the markets economists will be able to tell you about him because they were well indoctrinated in the Catechism.
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The markets being French Canadian and they come as being Catholic
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and a lot of history I mean, it's a little bit about the art
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they might not know much about the arc because the two parishes there is a great
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book
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and there's a discrepancy about the year it was failed to
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read anything from 853 70 800 god I'm gonna guess it has to be after 1853 Because no no permanent centers
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the first people that showed up here but
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it's a little bit of a building there
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originally was a very small private church for the
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for the family.
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But there weren't anybody else
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Well, it's true there were only about five or six bones right? A lovely little building and has a barrel ceiling and the chapel is very three of the homes that were in there was a bit
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and it was built for the family the girls to be married and it was
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it was originally 500 is
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like an estate town
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it was
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quite scary
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Do you remember any of that Jesse Mark had some expressions to use
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some of his ways of saying things always the same things and his exercises in intersect
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intersect I
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probably picked up some of these things from bullets.
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Although he did not have an English accent because he was born in Tacoma Washington raised in a Toyota
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unlike the kids in the private school
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private school English
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North American link no
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no
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that was one of them and
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anything anyways, he had the same things or things he'd say any expressions and explanations anything I got
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any phrases
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you ever get mad at you for doing something or you got about three things that you really didn't do?
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Mama would have a small paddle. She hadn't woodpile that was a minor discrepancy
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that my dad would get the stick out of it was a major one and one of them he didn't get caught line.
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That was what the stick the other he had a dangerous board.
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He had this border will cause the defendant was six foot high.
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You were not allowed to go near that that would be with the stick.
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And the other one is little kids. The addiction today and what he does was five to six feet deep and
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he didn't get out there
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was an adult. Okay. Well anyway I got
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when I was about four years old or five years old, I got into major trouble. I guess I was five
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The
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we got electricity in
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1947
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and
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Greenside was the electrician and I was watching these guys wearing this.
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And
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I heard that they were gonna go to Oscar Anderson's
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and Oscar Anderson. There's a skid row to the bush from our face. And Oscar Anderson's house is the one where the mussel hatchery is now online.
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anymore we don't Alaska, told anybody the next morning
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is electricity.
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For me,
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my brothers all panicky that
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I guess they decided the better phone often
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because electricity, maybe I'd wandered off down that trail.
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Well, sure enough, it was there watching the lectures and I can still remember him coming out of the bishop and sticking his head
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take off and Oh, tell us where you're going.
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I guess it's been half the morning looking
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at.
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He doesn't look like the type of person who is taught. It's funny because about 10 years 10 or 12 years ago, Tom Gurney came back to Saltzman and Tom's dad was an engineer on the ferries here and Tom's mother.
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My understanding of the mentally ill farm sister was raised ethnicity problems. And Tom was raised by his dad and his dad was a tyrant.
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And
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Tom was never allowed to do anything other than work at home after school. The only fun thing that he's allowed to do is go hiking facility.
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When his dad
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and his dad had to go away somewhere for six weeks, I forget what it was whether it was irrelevant meals,
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but having the Ask the time could stay at our place.
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And I guess
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he would be about 15 or 16.
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Anyway, so I'm kidding.
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I'm kidding. Since high school came up. They just settled the old man's affairs one time.
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He said, No, no, the time I was in high school and Saltspring The only time I ever had any fun is the six weeks that
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you said your dad had jobs for us to do. And when the jobs were done, my time was
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on Sunday, we went down to St Mary's Lake suddenly have to do
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much traffic along the road. We find the dead gross.
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Talk this goes up the road is only a lane and a half wide. We propped it up right on the road. We climbed up on the bluffs up above to watch what people would do.
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mallets with his wood leg gets out of the car
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and hold itself on his wooden leg to give this perfect kick. Because we set it up to well it looks like it was alive.
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Anyway, picks it up, move it off the road get back to I'll set it up we must have had a half a dozen people that we were fun watching the reaction out of these people. totally innocent fun. Yeah.
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Remember those times.
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Your mom's caucus said your dad gave us three times
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what you never had at home.
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Anyway, we had a high school teacher and this ultimate he told me about missiles.
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She was
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basically an icon as far as school teachers let her out here Saltspring had a credit in high school through the 50s and 60s matters if you've got a C plus or higher and university f1 scores you did not have to wait a government
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not only about half the high schools and provinces accredited, you could put that right down the middle
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where he was the vice principal and Tom told me that
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he
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called him
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and said, Tom, I understand that you've had a difficult time growing up
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better than I can do to help you with your education in the future. Would you come and see me? I'd like to help you out.
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You know, we never knew that side of Tom told me this story 40 years later. And
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Tom said no Miss Olson you don't have to worry. He said I graduate today and I'm out of here tomorrow
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well
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well you know I see the sign here asked me anything. And I figured now can you have all people would certainly know
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What that is right there? Did you have anybody asking? Yeah, we had one of those. Yeah. No, I can't remember what we use it for no cheese. Kids. It's a cheese. Cheese box. Yeah, I guess. I guess my dad probably had one two votes probably had a pretty company.
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remembered one on the place. Yeah, we've got, we've got two of them at our house. We just use them as schools and I brought that one. I bought them both. And there's another one over there. Which is a real good one because it shows the name of the normal and where it was manufactured, which was in Ontario, and the distributor which was Calgary, Alberta their stuff.
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But the way they made those
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Well,
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we have one around that. I don't know what happened was I think my mother used to keep
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stuff away from the road.
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We wouldn't ever bought season. Oh, no, no, no, no. It's
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a trading company.
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Yeah, I'll bet about them. Yeah, yeah.
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That was good at the break to bring down that model is that
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it just like it came out of the showroom. You know? That's the Braden here we're talking about
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Ross Ross and Ross and Tracy.
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Really
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beautiful job.
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What about your mom?
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Have you read?
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Have you read Ken Byron's biography of
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George, no.
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It was quite a job because Ken's blind because he had to write and read everything to him.
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And
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yeah, it's a good story because my mother's
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via the violence.
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They basically got burnt out in the Depression, Saskatchewan, their primary Saskatchewan is right next to my grandfather's.
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And
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anyway, they sold out they decide to have lost
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the game to ended up on Saltspring. The story's written up in terms of my eyes, it's good
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that
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they came late enough to hear that Oh, Jesse violin was too late. The plan
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talks about it and there's no not too it's a little too late to plant a garden. And
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so he made a deal with my dad that he could work up the place to play with vegetables. My dad was a pastor at the time and some of the deal came around to Saturday night dinner at the virus.
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And the virus had the four the five boys might be
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the oldest candidate that time will probably be about 15
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And it might be about five
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my dad was an amateur magician. He learned this at bullets and he had chip cards. Yeah, he could juggle things
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he had this one was to happen before before you didn't know which one were all the objects was gonna show up in the hands and is picked out so it anything in the Myron boys
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anyway, I guess my mother
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came west.
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I look for work or something in
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here and so it's
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just my dad came over for dinner and that's how
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we got married in 1936.
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She was her background family was Swedish.
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And they lived in a place called Stockholm Saskatchewan.
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Fitting he was a grandfather was came out as a single man who worked for the Canadian Pacific Railway.
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learned English I guess he must learn son before he got sweet.
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So he became a foreman fairly quickly and they hired a lot of sweets because of the big guys to handle. Handle Tizen and the real good worker, good workers. And
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so he says enough money to send back to Sweden. His brother who
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passes for the better
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host
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homesteaded around the
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Stockholm.
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My father and my grandfather was the first school
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decided that they had to have education. So the first school was set up called the Skandia school and it was talking Swedish
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Saskatchewan entered Confederation in 1905. And education became the responsibility of the provinces.
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And of course, the schooling had to be in English.
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This was a formidable problem because all the families in the communities spoke nothing but Swedish.
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The North and the northwest of the town
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is nothing but Hungarian.
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And my father, grandfather was a translator anybody needed translations with a government agency
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this way, but I'm the Hungarians didn't trust anybody else. But my grandfather stolen some or other he figured out what the Hungarians wanted got that the English. And anyway,
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he came to the conclusion that the early English as a Second Language Program requires some special measures. And the rule was passed, that the children would not be allowed to speak any Swedish on the school grounds.
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They would have to learn
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all the communication would have to go to every teacher.
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First once you got the first year out of the way, you had a school.
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So then the new ones coming into the city students and families.
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That's how they that's how they handled ESL. None of those businesses have special programs.
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And my mother had no Swedish accent.
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Despite the fact that it was the only language in the house.
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She learned it all on the school grounds.
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So she would have learned it starting at five years old she would have started learning English in Saskatchewan
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well she would have been six because they would have a score of five because she was born Christmas day
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are you good? How are you?
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Oh, give me a chair.
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You must have some good questions. Oh, me anything? Oh dear
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spittoon I know that
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nobody today would no no, no. No
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they were still they could sue us in your first
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or keep something that you want to get the most out of. We've got some we've got them at the cabin. We've got the meister the
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blankets
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never get up you know they were well made Wednesday
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Yeah, I can remember them down in the same company. And they'd have the wire to cut the cheese and just pull it over the block and just yeah.
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Thank you. Good, good.
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Okay, hang in there
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for the past in the morning, it's sunny this afternoon. But we didn't get it this morning. If you remember if I this morning. It wasn't raining. No, no. And
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hopefully we'll be fine.
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When you get weather warm in the morning and cools down after noon, that's not the way to
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clear off tonight. I got a whole bunch of hate mail.
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Talking my brother he's both 400 degrees
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I'd rather well.
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Human 100 degrees.
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I was there in mainland
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Baltimore. We have
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that peppery Chesapeake Bay Club. Yes. Yeah. The barrels. Yeah. Yeah, she's delicious. Well, they have like we have
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whales or whatever. They have crabs. And we'll decorate it by Christmas.
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Hold on
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Rachel's making anything.
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Find a good man and
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wait a man got answered a question you did ask.
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Well, I can tell you somebody else who asked that question.
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Dude, he's looking for a man.
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I'll give you a little secret. One of our neighbors has a husband who's got one of these mini tractors and she says if I became a widow, I would put in the ads. I have a tracker that
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My husband used to love I need someone to drive
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you know why corporate men don't use turn signals when they drive?
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Commitment
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the most confusing day on software
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so your mum was key do she had enough work in house to give her busy?
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You know, yeah, she was she was a great garden to see a beautiful flower garden around the place.
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She spent a lot of time doing that.
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It didn't have
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refrigerators, before electricity, there was no electricity, no refrigerator, you didn't have to pay for everything. You wanted to preserve that
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pile of stuff.
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And they'd be using what he they get what he never would cook would cook. So that was kind of warm in the summer. Yeah.
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So she didn't have a lot of spare time that there wasn't a lot of spare time in
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things like data, picking or crashing.
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You had to cook meals for all the workers
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on coffee break in the morning and tea break in the afternoon, right? Yeah.
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When you're talking about ESL, we were a host family for 18 years.
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Anyway for foreign students, but I wouldn't have to have the same country ever. Other houses did
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that first.
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No way because
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they just if they were to talk to me or whatever.
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They weren't
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here when I think back,
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you're responsible for three meals a day, seven days a week. I was working.
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But we used to bring them over to Salzburg
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to keep up with three students in Switzerland and about four in Japan.
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And we kept that we've visited
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room and board was a common thing through the 40s 50s and 60s to
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your university students today. You might be able to find a room but you surely won't find board
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that was
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in the
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mother the kids. High school kids lived on the island and they boarded the boat
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and
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the taxis didn't know the water we had we had several of the high school kids my mother had and
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they didn't put in the dormitory until
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that came after I was out of high school
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he was the only the middle of
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my first time here was in 64 up there I met your lady middle would have an open them
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anyone has a seven
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year
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old kid mother brought us over for a week oh my goodness the cabinet oh gosh Paul is
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good I didn't bring my
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Amen look at that so she's going there maybe he was looking
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for you know not have never sat down for this long
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busy jumping is itching to get back out there again I
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suppose supposed to go and have lunch
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oh she coming together to get me
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dinner how's it gonna be for the court issue? Well flow everything's up like that so it'll be ready. First week August everything's slow everything except the green stuff. Oh, the potatoes are good. The grass is good. I figure it and that's it gets any better.
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I did make peas yesterday. Oh, it's this weather carries on. This will be the year
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well it's supposed to and hot on August 29
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You know any cancer you
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know that name doesn't ring a bell or some
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somebody was
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trying to track them down
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didn't me either.
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Later 60s possible?
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Because I quit.
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somebody's working here in the summer and
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then after that last contact pretty quickly
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you're busy
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Did you did you find Ross Island he never
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shipped the pile of stuff
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and the U haul stuff to nothing but everything went to Victoria went by the faith.
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He would
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have the potatoes and be sold to the marketing board and Victoria
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and he probably
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through the summer months weekly from about the end of August end of July. To the end of September.
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Probably about 70 doesn't have to let us a week
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away more than we sell here.
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He probably put in
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four or 500 pounds of cabbage a week.
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Maybe for maybe three or four dozen colored flowers when we
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first first came over with Bob we went down
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and bought vegetables like the weekend to talk about just
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remember that he'd have a black marker in his in his pocket
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about the size of that
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black pram and all the crate smoothies or wooden boxes
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the mathematics of the purchase of beyond the great
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black marker that you can write on would
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be bought more than half ago up to half a dozen agency do it in his head but after that
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he was pretty sharp and his head was Matt
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What do you have got that a bullet
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keep in mind he came out of high school came out of school at the age of 12 which would probably be the equivalent of grade seven or eight today
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is gone.
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Tell me what's up and Kim virus biography when you left grade eight during the 1930s
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can notice that you had to sit the high school entry exam and this was a 20 subject exam. And I was talking to Don about it and Don said today's made trials would not be able to pass that exam. I'm not surprised
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that they would
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and
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we didn't
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we didn't have to plan to get into high school. No No that was Dawn said that was all done by the by the end of the Second World War but so so I'm assuming that if my dad
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finished school at the age of 12 which would be the equivalent of grade seven problems
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he probably have as good education in the basics
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of math and English is any great welcome
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except there wouldn't have been algebra
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or trigonometry
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no basic
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he probably would
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remember when we moved to pass
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the time engineer which was interesting
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anyway when we got the band I got
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Wow
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could bandsaw was cutting rates
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and they had all worked on
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worked on trying to fix
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everybody
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but they've had all of the pupils with the mill for years
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just interested
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and they were they couldn't believe
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I can never work to wear
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paper or whatever. But it was just straight
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ready
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to give a picture to the Legion
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guy named Able Seaman Hughes
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Well, I've heard of the picture.
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Right Well I found that in the office
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and there was a blurb when
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he was on the boat.
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But he was killed
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ship I can't remember the name the ship during during? Yeah, he was 27
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It's possible that Bullock might have had an orphan that because
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Bill Curry was mentioned area Bill Curry was Bullock's last door
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and there was an Bill joined joined up as he was probably 21 or 22 and 1939
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there would have been
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elf holdings in the 30s
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and there could have been a huge because
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I know during the 1930s that Bullock had five
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and I know the name of for
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good, he was a 1922 class.
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My dad was making six and there was a number in between
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and
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I'm gonna guess Able Seaman Hughes was probably a bullock orphan of the 1930s I gave it to what's the name
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as possible and he copied I got the original was taught as possible that Bullock axe
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taught my dad the photography and that's where my dad got interested in it became a master photographer.
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Bullock had his own photography equipment and he was an amateur photographer in his own right he was a good one. So it's quite possible
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I gotta get I gotta get up on the wall. I just wanted to get the new
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stuff Hogan is still alive. Now who to talk to
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Oh
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Laurie go Goodman lives in the Nile. That's when he sold his son.
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And Lori probably knows because Laurie is quite a bit older and I am
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annoyed with certainly all of us out talking to him. And Lori's amphis Chuck Hogan wife
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the devil there is
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the interesting point Yeah.
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I know alphas still alive. At least it was
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incredible good health because he's here for a good
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couple of years.
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As you all already know
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he's lives in California but more lawyers will be on the
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block and Laurie would know
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how to get hold of something.
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Okay, next
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game family who had that pseudo separator over there.
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Now is that where the school is?
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Hard to
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James before it was talking with Mackenzie before Harkin. And I don't know whom Mackenzie bought it off length for years.
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And they would have had the original firm. It was still intact on
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Metro to the waterfront, to St. Mary's lake. It was 400 acres.
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Richard flax is tied to that.
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lane road ended in that property. And it was three Liang daughters
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that I'm aware of two of them.
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One was Mrs. Basil Cartwright, and that's where Smith's are at the top of the hill. And you come up in front of the store on the other side of the road. There's the farm at the top of the hill, and Cameron Cartwright lives in the one house there. That was the contract plan that farm was less than one of the laying daughters it was three daughters. And basil Cartwright married one of the legs
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and they milk cows there for years.
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They were there until the 1950s.
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sold the house the camera
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a few years ago that's a grandson.
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Then another Lang daughter married case Morris.
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They had a place here on Park Drive. Three years.
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Their daughters
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and their granddaughter. Granddaughter is still alive see
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Jennifer there my
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daughter but I sold it to McKenzie in America. And McKenzie
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went back and forth from Phoenix to here but McKenzie had a very herd of about 80 milk cows.
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The original barns
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apart there was 125 acres.
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That was James firing from the 1960s to maybe 1925.
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And then mine is one of the many dairies was it on the well they had to seed five
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lanes I believe that it as a dairy and then
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Mackenzie had as a dairy and harcombe are offered as a dairy for two years. And then he he got out of the cows and
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they ended up with about 125 acres at the end of
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it. The James is with us the four four brothers Harry Jack, Jimmy
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and Bill it
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anyway, Jack James became the district horticulturalists.
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Central Okanagan for maybe 40 years after he left there and then he retired to Salisbury.
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Two of the brothers then took on land in Carrollton Bay, and have the team Seed Farm there for a number of years.
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I don't know what happened the other brother
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Zach James's daughter, Audrey
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has a well known connection in Kelowna. And that is very build up.
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And actually building out
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the system. This is what
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she still lives on the island
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is also into this session.
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And
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then Jack after he retired from the Department of Agriculture, moved back to salt.
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Do you know anything about the Patterson family, Mrs. phallus was
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just in daughter and that's very close to me. And they you're thinking, Oh, that Patterson? Yeah. She came from Vancouver. No, no, the only Patterson story.
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Died in the records.
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They were related wedding.
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But we were asked Gladys Campbell. weren't related. But
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Mr.
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Nolan, Mrs. Patterson married
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second January. Yeah.
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She married Daniel Henry.
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That's the connection. But I don't know.
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I would doubt it. Because it was a long way it
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was that jamesy company quite a quite a dynamic. They must have been because, but it's interesting that they started out on on James Island. And then they got the name. And then they went to Parker Island.
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And then the ended up what we call fernbrook farms Kansas. But Mackenzie
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remember
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are college valid? And are they still going strong?
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Because
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my dad's
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brother
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Jamin
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Duncan one day they weren't producing
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but he still had he still had property
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Thank you very much. Okay. No one else is not easy to transfer company. I mean, it's like transferring any pharmacy
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wouldn't be and
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I know that.
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Without that would be originally would have been the big five when they called
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and they also get
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we're in the
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land of weather golf courses. I think they did didn't.
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Well, the Reverend EF Wilson had that
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for a time, and
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that was one of the jokes about St. Mark's Anglican Church was
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the Reverend EF Wilson had the ideas but Bullock had the money
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it was always a conflict of how it was to be done.
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Amazing
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sugar Billy Smith, he says they don't know what you both don't know much about him. And you mentioned some of the tree yet quite a few trees so applicate that need
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He probably well when you count up the original boundaries of the orchard
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I'm gonna guess he probably put in between 50 and 75
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which in those days wouldn't have been a big orchard on Saltspring but it would have been the beginning but I think sugar billing is a little bit later probably others probably by the time
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it was amazing production
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affectionately by 1910 of
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the Okanagan
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and one of the things I wonder is where they would even get some treats so I mean it's not easy getting nobody here grasp Well, Doug was and they think
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the potato
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chip drops out and feta tubers around the game
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and obviously they could they must have been able to
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hear better issues see
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you could probably take a while
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because we have so many wild apples around the divergent spread
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and then they bought the glass gaming potato chip
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as long as they arrived here alive it wouldn't be too long before they'd have a tree
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and they didn't do ministers knows they hated full size freeze considerably more he
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was telling me he doesn't want to bother with the miniatures anymore
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so much more vigorous, they take up more room and the ladder
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like you gotta water those doors. Boy they're gonna need water
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I was on a broader Road in
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Miami they are they are
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massive.
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And there's a federal airport in about a 10 acre
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semis more fortunate 20 years ago.
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He must have given up on a beautiful shape 50 years ago and it's all going back to wheat
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what's gonna happen when we got nobody producing apples anymore? What are we going to eat? Well
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fatale the Chinese apples.
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When I was in China
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today
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was just acres and acres of new orchards going.
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If labor cheaply, what about grapes? When did this come in here? Well, very cold.
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And they still got stuck.
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They've got some old concourse bounded up there. Called the face of the planet in 1880s. And there's no
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clothes about wine grapes or eating grapes.
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But
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that restock came from an agro
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they're still producing
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Henry's one day and he was telling me about
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old Harry brought him in in the 1880s
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Well, that probably about as early
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I think Marlon probably had come down in the
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garden.
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But nobody made made apple cider. Nobody made much wine. Unless it was the fruit.
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Remember cider? Yeah. It was a lot more tea totally going on.
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Course teetotaling. You know it's funny. My dad and my dad had three bottles of booze in the house.
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The Liquor Control Board, right Liquor Control Board, scotch and Liquor Control Board. And they only came out on Christmas day if somebody came to visit
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us.
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Amazing in his retirement years, not that he actually retired he did get into making a bit of oil. He did make cider.
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But he did get into making a bit of homemade wine. And that was
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that was about it.
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Oh, and then one of the Rogers he was a major bootlegger.
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I can remember the social circle you went to see if there was ever any booths cutting
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occasionally have some homebrewer George Hi Nikki never
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might have might have it the Legion
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In
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the room Russian on August
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according to Lotus
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men Henyk apple cider was one of the only thing that brought money into the farm and apparently that's true cider the only income yeah it's funny we could be
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fun projects
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would you think about the fact that there was basically other than my dad I don't think anybody was producing vegetables on a scale this wholesale
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because there wasn't a market
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there or or if it was if it was for the stores you had to make sure the quality was
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right number one in the supply was consistent
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to interested in buying something that showed up this week and it was nothing
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today absolutely
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what about all the milk was this solely for for the cream reason? Well up until I will see
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there would be stuff sold to the stores
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in the 50s and 60s there was lots of food market
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but before that there wouldn't have been as much because there was almost everybody was living on a farm account
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the as the
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I guess the retirement population picks up there was a market for milk
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just people picking up at the farm or what
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Bill Crawford
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cutting
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prices the two
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that was your salvation. Yeah, so those guys
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are pre molding for the creamery.
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By the mid 1950s, there was no money and freedom so the only guys that could make it were the guys that they were they were subjected to infection by the government.
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And then it has to be pasteurized doesn't have to be until it became
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robbed imagine here's his last run out there in the province.
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By the late 60s, Roger was given an exemption
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everything else had to be cash.
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Cow had a TV tag or something on it. Oh, everything had a
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if you were the fluid milk business and raw milk they had to be banks MTB tested
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and then the the sanitation of the milk house had to be right up the traps
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and the days and of course refrigeration was the days when he for duration
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for a milk cooler, they just use
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it was a cold water circulating like a radiator and you pour the milk into the top and it ran over the surface of a Cinestill pipe which had flowing cold water
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when it came out it was today you got to be able to pull
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everything out today but the tankers got dropped to 37 degrees within one hour.
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You got milk going in there. Modern dairy 200 300 Cows
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the cooling capacity of that coolers got to be not less milk. It's got to be at 37 And what else
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can I ask cheese question? So Rosalie is making cheese out of Moonstruck she can't wear gloves and everybody it burns the skin off everybody's hands when they make the cheese
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the gloves or the to the acid that they use for making gloves
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because the flavors are too
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so she said
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she said she said the the acid would eat the gloves
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so so they all got they said oh you just live with it. And the skin on your hand called
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occupational hazard
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if you become a safe practice
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and never had your
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daughter was gonna come
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to come back here one o'clock and pick me up at 135 No, no, I'll pass.
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I know that. I know who's gonna be running the barbecue not being okay.
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I think they went to picked up the first time a birthday present for my grandson so they I know they went down to the moon okay
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because they haven't shown up here yet
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you know how women are when they go shopping
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woman spaces in the mall
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well I like going to Hawaii for winter holiday because they're
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on the beach and read or write go swim scuba dive for an hour but the women had been the mall I take
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usually they won't drive
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otherwise I go back to the beach
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take your shoes off and
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what is this photo
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the early days of the Ganges market
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with a similar idea
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upside down here
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I try to remember who this guy was he used to hang around the market all the time
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think he was
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watermelons on top
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that wasn't my dad's vehicle that was that somebody else is here to sell out of the battery or that little they had a little minivan.
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They snuck down and we still got that old scale like visibile
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on the back like Johnny read
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that's how I'm here.
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Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
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Yes
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that was that Arthur? He bought the women's farm
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good thank you so high
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that
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it was kind of interesting. That was 500 kids.
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Can Tony
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the two girls Louis and the other ones anyone
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misses he left Allen with five kids
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put up with John when
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that was done women.
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So I can have all five tips.
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I guess he was the greatest poker in the world.
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Just
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two or three of them.
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Trust row hired
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he says these prizes are tough. You can walk on him
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the enemy came down in one day.
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I guess the youngest one Tony was about 14 has told me and Vic Sampson the other senses were playing around and they had a 25th
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and
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he got to Tony hedger inside a 45 gallon drum
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take a shot for 45 gallon drum he got it wanted to find out what it sounded like
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my dad just have the cover
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that's what he's got to add to that brother
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definitely have the capacity there.
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That's the Tony right
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here years old, no.
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Lawyers.
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The lawyers uncle
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Alan's younger brother.
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Telling that that sort of wry sense of humor didn't hurt me crack the smile
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Lori's mother was
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okay. That's how the McFadden gets well when he puts in his ads on business and Saltzman since 1861. Well, that's
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because Oh, I didn't come until after the First World War.
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He kept drinking once in a while and
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it's a good story.
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Well one of the stories was that
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it was reminiscent today's in the army that Arthur's but it was he fired the first shot the first world war they're not sure if he didn't fire it the second
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who would have known that
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another one was
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Arthur said this German jumped out of an airplane with a parachute but
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I don't know if they
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I don't think they were equipped with parachutes
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anyway they were all taking potshots at the guy coming down
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and
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they just turned it in and said hedgerow
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always
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have no teeth
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come up
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my name would come up Malcolm
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we always had a candy in his pocket if you got if you got a candy hazard
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we'd always hit all the
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kids that'd be Alan's Father Our Father Yeah.
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Yeah to give he didn't get shot the first leg
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and probably broke his leg because
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hillside was
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reminds me when Simpson used to come off the ferry. Occasionally Princess Mary used to be drinking along the way.
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And ice cream would come off the fairy princess Mary and he'd like treating kids ice cream cones and we certainly encouraged to do so. Yeah
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they all lined up
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pretty good. Get to the right place after
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all right.
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Gonna give George a hard time dealing with people
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I don't know.
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There's always
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a bit of
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an older historian. No, nobody can remember whether you're telling the truth. Yeah.
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Probably makes the half of it up. Well, the the. The foremost they call them the doyen of China's history, John King Fairbanks.
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History is what we think happens
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right so the blacksmith thing up there just look at
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so the other thing too is after a while you can't research much of the history was it so far back you can Oh, no, you just can't do it anymore though. It
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doesn't write anything down
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right now I'm just reading over
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the book the price of admiralty
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invention, the wooden wooden walls of
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the ships Trafalgar
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didn't go to the first world war scenes of France and he just seems authentic. So you can or you can go to Gettysburg and see a pickup charge. And he says you'll never be able to say exactly where so and so was or how it happened but on board a ship like the victory you know exactly because
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the confined space. These gunners are at this. This position this is exactly where they were so so there are some cases where you can be very accurate but there's others where you cannot
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I hate to be a party pooper.
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Waiting. Good. You're half an hour late. Oh, I thought she was gonna come in and get me. We're waiting for
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waiting here for her.
