235_Davidson_Beaver-Point-History_2009.mp3

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17.04.2023

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Speaker 1 0:00
That gives me a great deal of pleasure today to introduce to you, Mary Davidson, who is going to present a talk on her family history of beaver point, a pioneering family in that region. And she's put some displays up around. And Mary is one of our life members, also one of the organizers and starters of the archives, which is very successful. So it's a great deal of pleasure. I welcome Mary to our meeting. Thank you.

Speaker 2 0:30
Today I'm going to talk about the history of beaver point. My grandfather was one of the early presenters on at Beaver point. And so I consider myself fairly knowledgeable, but I had to do a lot of research to find out everything about the early settlers, the early presenters and all the other people who settled beaver point. Oh, this is a map of Salt Spring and as I Oh, there it goes. And we're zooming in on Beaver point. Beaver point it's actually not the whole south end because Isabella point across the harbor is also part of the south end, but it's a great deal of the south end.

Unknown Speaker 1:31
You have the park beaver point is Eleanor point. And of course the solar reserve Fulford harbour is one of the borders beaver point got its name from the the little ship called the beaver. Now know, I had heard that the beaver went to ground there, but maybe it didn't.

Speaker 2 2:13
Some of these family traditions are not always accurate. But it definitely was named for that little ship. They were point was settled fairly early on. And there was a reverend Bishop Hills who met for German, at least he said in his notes for Germans who were working in just in the Fulford Valley, or the the Burgoyne Valley. And they were cutting cedar shakes. And one of the main laws have been German, because the names of the Four men were triggy, spike Herman, miners, dwarf, and shepherd. And it seems to me that Shepard probably wasn't. At any rate, these these four men were very early pre emperors at Beaver point. They were probably there in the it was the early 60s when Bishop Hill saw them, and they were probably there and settled long before preemptions were permitted in 1868. So the very, very first one that settled, or the first two, I should say, Were Theodore triggy. Excuse me, and his partner, Henry spiker. There was also Excuse me. There was also Henry minor store, who settled and preempted in the early eight in the late 1860s. We know that Theodore triggy married Susanna George, a First Nation woman from the culture nation, and they had a family of one son eight off and three daughters, Bertha, Henrietta and Clara. He preempted extensively. His holdings covered a very wide area right from Bridgman road to Fulford harbour village, the present village. Henry Sparkman and Theodore trigging were close partners and Henry spiked them and also preempted a great deal of property. Once preemptions were allowed If a person could preempt in the name of their son as well as in their own name, so between the two of them and using a dog's name the dragging child they preempt did pretty well all the property from Bridgman wrote long certainly the waterfront right to Fulford village at the same time about 1870 to two gentleman from our little lakes are named for stone stole and Western preempted prey. Western LM sorry so preempted in 1872 and Western in 1874. The lakes were named after them. And this is Clara triggy. One of the the daughters and the granny of BB who is running the projector not doing it. Anyway, what I'd like to point out to you is that stole s t o w e is the name of the lake. I know a lot of you would think it's full lake but it isn't Stone Lake. It was still with a nail at the end of it. And meaning Lake, and then somebody attached it to stone and made it stole and now you can see it with two wells because every time somebody puts a nail for Lake who knows how it will end up at any rate, still didn't stay very long. He had property all around stole lake, but he gave it up, abandoned it and moved on Western stayed probably till he died. He was there for a great many years. Western is the lake that Fulford village gets its water from. So it's kind of important to us. In 1874, John Christian Sparrow, who now we know of Elsa Fulford, person, pre emptor, he preempted property at Eleanor point. And I guess abandoned that there is no indication that he abandoned except that he wasn't there and he didn't. He didn't settle there. In 1874, also a famous name on Saltspring Henry ruckle, Henry ruckle, senior settles. That's when he preempted they say he probably came in 1872. But he preempted in 1874. So that was his official time. He had a wife, Ella, and she had a son Helfrich, who became part of the family. I don't know if it was a legal adoption or anything like that, but he definitely was part of the family. And between Ella and Henry they had three children, Daniel Henry, who became Henry Jr. and Ella and Agnes. Ella senior, the mother was very, very famous midwife in the area. She delivered two of my gowns, my aunt Han and my aunt Maggie, and also my father Marie McClendon. The Oh Thank you Frank. These are pictures of the ruckle homestead and family. And now we come to the Indian Reservation. About the year 1876 77 There was some kind of a census and the Indian Reservation the government Indian Reservation named the reservation qu na niche. The chief was still to yam and he had sons Pierre and slay MIT and two daughters. Apparently they were all married. splay men have females Child, there were also two other men and the widow and her son. And that was the population, five adult men, five adult women to female us to male youth and our children and a female child. And also one horse can tackle 30 sheep and 10 hens. And that was the probably the largest population that the Indian Reservation ever had. It appears that very, very few people have ever lived there. The earlier picture showed them in the distance you can see the Long House This is a picture of shorty exactly Aqsa who and his wife who mysteriously disappeared and people think that they were probably murdered their boat showed up on the beach. The at Navy settlers or preempt errs consisted of a large number of people. And I have posters around the room showing the various time the eight these were the 1860s and 70s. And the next one down there was the 1880s. So they included April Douglas HS Shepard, who also was one of those people that were with Draghi and Spike Herman and minor stores in Bishop Hill saw Sam Davis, Alec McLennan, Thomas, Callie, Callie

Speaker 2 11:56
Edward, stellar, Thomas, John Thomas and John Paton burger, Joseph King, John Stevens, George Williams, William Robertson, Charles Olson, and Johnson, George Arnold, Fred Raines, l Fallens. Richard Jackson, John Peavine, Cole Kohonen. And John Kohn. And I'm not pronouncing that properly. It's a Hawaiian name. About this time, Hawaiian started to preempt. They were probably on Portland Island and Russel Island, and around the waterfront quite a while before that, but it was during the 1880s that they actually preempted land. But when they preempted it didn't mean that they were going to stay just about all of them moved on. The ones that stayed was what they call connect a bill who was William Hermia. And he's he stayed right where he had pre emptive for, I guess, until his death and his orchard is still being very much enjoyed by the bay. What's it called Bay? They they Green Bay Ridge Strava. Some of the other Hawaiians that actually preempted where John pelo Williams mountain, connect a Barlow, Joseph Tony Williams in the corner. We have a new Honor. William Hammett. And yes, I've sent him okay. Joseph to Harney and several of the others John Paulo, in particular, were the people who gave the property for the Roman Catholic Church in in Fulford village. They they gave the land and then with the First Nations joining with them, they brought over the, the, the materials to build the church from couches. So, and they also brought some of the materials from what they call the buttered Church, which is just outside Duncan over on Vancouver Island. Now, this little church was very important to a great many people, all the Hawaiians and the First Nations People, and many of them mixed race people, and also everybody else who was Roman Catholic. It was an important little church. Well, I don't know the pictures aren't working. So they're not going with the talk. But that's all right. There are good pictures so you can enjoy looking at Beaver point school. About 1884 There were some a real need for school, the children of these early settlers were getting old enough to go to school. So the that's the one. Okay. Anyway, they got together. There was Rocco, and triggy and McLennan who all had children ready for school, as well as others, but I'm not familiar with all the names of all the children. They they hired Samuel Barris and his son, Charlie, to build the school. And it opened in 1885. So there were a large number of children just in Beaver point, but not quite enough, because in those days, you had to have 10 children, or you couldn't get the teacher. So they got Betances from Venice Bay. That is speech. And they got horribles from the top of the hill, and also a Cummins. So in this picture, you will see a lot of different faces that are not beaver point. My eldest uncle is, is the second child Cetinje. And the fourth child seated. Those are my two uncles, my second eldest eldest uncles. And of course they will planets. From different things, as Lotus told me that some of the children on both ends were atramentous. So I'm not sure who all the other children are. We haven't identified them.

Unknown Speaker 17:31
At the time that

Speaker 2 17:34
all these children were coming to the school they were busy building schools closer to the ones that were coming along distance. So what happened was, the East children went to divide and cranberry and didn't come to be reappointed anymore, so they didn't have their Tim. So my dad at age three was a student in the school, because he had to help make up the numbers that were probably others that were before school age that had to be included as well.

Speaker 2 18:16
This is a picture 1901 The other one was 1887. This is 1901. And the little girl in the middle, in the upper row is my aunt Maggie. And the two little girls right in front of her is my aunt Jessie and my dad. And then is mother of Agnes who's sitting over there beyond Frank always helps with with the tea. So you probably have seen her. And this and the teacher was Morrison. This is a practice that has been remade, and at the bottom it names all of the early children, the families who attended the school. It says from diverse corners of the earth they came with not but their strength they created out of a wilderness, our heritage. Of course, beaver point school was very important. It's changed his name. Now it's called Little Red, but it's still one of our heritage buildings on Salt Spring. These are two of the early teachers. The one on this side. I can't recall her name. She was the very first teacher and the other one is Agnes ruckle. Who thought now I'm not sure if the normal school wasn't open at this time. And I think most of these young teachers probably did not have teacher training. They were probably good students themselves and had as much education as they could get on the island. And from there, they went into teaching lots of celebrations for beaver point the school. Anyway, you probably weren't Oh, I was going to tell you more about the teachers. My mom was a teacher. So I know a lot of the boat teachers that came to Salt Spring Island. And one of the things that you have to say about Saltspring Island teachers is they provided wives for the bachelors on Salt Spring. Almost every year, there was there were a bunch of new teachers in all the little one room schools. And once normal schools started, they, these young teachers went all all over the province. But all Salt Spring, probably in other areas as well. The teachers didn't last long in the school. They were married pretty quickly. We have in the archives, there's a biography by Johnny Reed, who was an early person here on Saltspring. And in that biography, Johnny tells about driving around in his Model T picking up the teachers to take them to the Saturday night downs. So everybody had a wonderful time. And the teachers met all the young men. And right off the bat, they were married women. My mum came in January, and was married very shortly after the summer. So you know, my dad was one of the eligible bachelors here on Salt Springs. It this is the way it was with all of them. Johnny Reed also married and teacher who was probably one of the ones he picked up in his Model T

Speaker 2 22:01
we had a postal service very early on. But it was the mail was dropped off in Burgoyne the Maxwell family had and his partner had built this wharf at Burgoyne. Burgoyne Bay. And that's where the mail came in. Because it wasn't there wasn't a war of a proper wharf at Beaver point. Nor was there a war for tall at foot foot. So my grandfather from at 1886 to nine, teen nine was the postman, and he delivered, he will have to get the mail from here. And apparently, according to a little item Soufan someplace he walked all the way to Berg going to get the mail. Now, whether he actually whether he actually delivered it when he got back, I don't know. Maybe everybody had to go to the house to pick up their mail. And probably people didn't get as much mail as they do today. But anyway, later on, there's a picture of him in his little horse and buggy. Not that one. That's him going fishing. No. I must be pressing him too hard. Anyway, I'll talk about the transportation. There is a letter from Rachael and McLennan to Pemberton who was the person that in charge I guess, at the time, asking if they could have enough money to re really open up the Burgoyne road I mean, the beaver Point Road and whether they got the money or not, I don't know. But at the time, just about everybody had to get out and build the road. The road traveled along around stumps. Anywhere that there was something in the way it went around. And you'll find that Virgo the beaver Point Road is still like that, to a certain extent. It skirts almost anything that might have been in the way at the time. If there was a rain, a heavy windstorm. Then everybody had to get out and get rid of anything that fell across the road. Such as it was. I can remember a very large snowstorm that we had with a lot of rain and my dad with Just an ordinary two man saw going out and working all day long for several days, clearing the road enough that the the buggies could get through. Now, even at that stage, it was still a big horse pulling a wagon. That's how we got around. So it was rather slow in developing. Everybody that was a farmer on Saltspring had to do other things besides, like my grandfather was postmaster. He was also a school secretary for many years. But everybody had to do something else. A lot of the farmers were fishermen. A lot of them were loggers. They they had to make ends meet. So it was required. The report was like everyplace else on Saltspring, you had to keep working or you didn't survive. Some of the some of the fishermen or farmers were whalers. And of course, they were all they were all road builders, whether they liked it or not. Justice of the Peace was usually somebody in the area. And they had to provide jury jury duty as well. And quite often, they worked in the mill when it was opened because transportation on land was so terrible, they often had to use bolts Oh, this is this Are women working. We put this in because when the man had to go away or work on the road, or if he was a sealer, as well as, as a farmer, guess who had to do all the work. So Mum or his wife had to get dizzy and she had to help. This is a couple of the young women in the family. These are people related to Nancy Braithwaite, this is from her collection.

Unknown Speaker 27:28
And they did a lot of work. Some of the Ruby pictures show the girls are doing Hey, this is the McLennan farm quite early on. And this is the ruckle farm with a nice field of hay.

Speaker 2 28:02
During the time that people were getting their lands prepared and organized. There was an organization in Victoria, who brought people from Japan over and they went on to the farms to do the clearing. Because if you had a preemption, you had to clear a certain amount of land. Well, if you only had small children, you had to do it yourself. And this was a bit too much. So at the time that my grandfather's family were young, he had three Japanese men, they would work for a certain period of time, which was which was satisfied ahead of time. That's how long they were going to work at a certain wage. And they had to be provided with shelter and food. So he had his three men there for a period of time. I'm not sure I have no idea how long and also rattles had these two people working there. Now, I don't know if these people were in the same category of just working and then returning to Japan. But the three that my grandfather had definitely returned to Japan after the work was finished. It was quite a useful thing to have because I would imagine that the wages were very very small

Speaker 2 29:38
Oh, this is the picture of my grandfather. I imagine this is when he was going out to get the mail at Burger King Bay.

Speaker 2 29:54
This is the Catholic Church that the Hawaiians Were probably instrumental in founding the land belongs to John Paulo. And this was built by, by the people all volunteer labor.

Speaker 2 30:23
At the same time, or a little later, I should say 19 Five. The Reverend Wilson was instrumental in getting St. Mary's Anglican church built. And in 1887 This is the Bergling United now, this church was built as a union Church, which was supposed to include everybody, but the Anglicans moved out quite early on and either went into the schoolhouse, the Burgoyne schoolhouse, which is across the road. And then the Methodists took over and in 1925, it became a United Church. Now in any records that you would see about these churches, they had huge congregations, the churches were filled up. They had Sunday schools, everybody was very keen on these churches. But now they're almost empty and it's quite a worry. There's people who take care of them, but there's always somebody to say we'll close it down. But so far, the few people that are left have kept them open

Speaker 2 31:51
this is beaver point, Wharf, and that's William Paterson pushing the goods down the wharf. And in the background is the Patterson store. This store was built by a man called Captain good. And he didn't stay very long when he left William Paterson who is was the brother to Polly ruckle who was Daniel Henry's wife he bought the store and took over the care of the war when my mother came to teach here she boarded in this building with the Pattersons

Unknown Speaker 32:45
and I presume this is caring for the wharf It looks like somebody was doing some work on it

Unknown Speaker 33:02
these are all beaver point wharf

Unknown Speaker 33:12
three beautiful ladies. And a big crowd waiting for the boat to come along.

Speaker 2 33:21
The CPR boats, they princesses stopped at Beaver point wharf and toward the end of its life, it actually was a pretty popular place. People went on excursions and there was always transportation to Victoria or wherever. And it ran between Victoria and Vancouver or New Westminster and Victoria

Unknown Speaker 33:58
you can see the war in the distance

Speaker 2 34:08
I can't see the name of that one but I think it's the same this is the job that looks more like Fulford work to me but maybe not I don't know

Speaker 2 34:28
you think that's Do you think that's yeah, I know it's the Joan but it looks more like Fulford wharf to me, but maybe not. Anyway there's lots of sea transportation

Speaker 2 34:53
I was going to mention something else about water transportation, people, dependent upon themselves. Theodore triggy had his own little wharf and he used to roll his produce apples, etc. Into Victoria. Quite long distance. One of the teachers Mr. Simon's wife was going to have a baby. They got into a rowboat and rolled around from Beaver point to the badasses because Mrs. betters was with midwife. When my grandfather came over to view the property that he later pre emptive he and Henry ruckle rolled across from Sydney. There was transportation from Victoria Oh, as far as Sydney and then from there, you, you did your own thing, and they came across and when the minister Reverend Ebenezer Robson came to dedicate the Burgoyne Bay church, he came on the S S rainbow where he got off in the drink and got into a rowboat and was rolled around to Fulford harbour by this was Mr. runkles man, he said in his diary, and it was rolled around to Fulford harbour where a lot of people were waiting for him and then he got out of the rowboat, and they all walked up to the church. Now if you can think of Fulford harbour and Burgoyne church, they all walked together up to the church, nobody thought anything of walking, walking was the way you got there. In those days, there wasn't any choice

Speaker 2 37:03
the land in Beaver point, sort of deserves the name the walk, pretty awful land, just little patches of fertile farmland. And it was very difficult for them. They they had a lot of fruit trees because the fruit trees could manage on that kind of property. And the biggest item was sheep, sheep was something they could depend on it because they could wander through the woods and nibble away and she could manage. They always had poultry of all different sorts. And everybody had coward to and probably an ox or not a pair of oxen. And maybe later on a horse or a pair of horses. It would be after they were pretty well established before they would be able to afford a horse. So mixed farming was what what it boiled down to, and orchards became quite famous. It wasn't until much later when the Okanagan started producing apples and other fruits that Salt Spring couldn't really compete. But to start with Salt Spring was the the fruit provider for Victoria and maybe Vancouver as well.

Speaker 2 38:47
In the 1890s they Hepburn's came about 1911 and John Hepburn decided that he would solve the problem of transportation because there was no ferry here. We had launchers and that sort of thing, but there was no ferry. So he invented a stove. And what happened? This is also written up in Johnny Reid's autobiography. Apparently he used Cadillac and a chef and a tractor motor attached to the skull. And it worked. Like according to John Reed. The backwash was a little bit too much. So it didn't move along very fast. It hardly moved at all I understand. So it wasn't very successful. invention but at least it was. It was something somebody was trying to think of some other people that came in the 1890s to the 1930s were the pilots was Stuart's Reynolds ame sleaze. Bryant's. Now this was a doctor and her husband, Dr. Mita Brian. Jimmy Kremen Minh Hendrix. McIntosh Patterson's good. A Bowman and Alison Cooksey Bridgman and all Flynn

Speaker 2 40:58
around this time, Mr. Bowman and his partner Allison started a meal at cushion Cove cushion called meal mill was very successful. It was very large. It had lots of internal problems. But it employed a huge number of people. They had a great big dormitory. And everything went along very well. Except, of course, the internal problems they didn't make a lot of money.

Unknown Speaker 41:38
So about what's happened

Speaker 2 41:55
so anyway, what happened finally to the mill, the wharf was piled high with with finished lumber. And it collapsed, too much weight on something that wasn't capable of holding it. And that was the end because they didn't have enough money to redo anything or rebuild. That was the end. Allison had left fairly fairly early on, but woman had carried on. This is the office. And this is a wedding that took place there. It was a virtual United Nations. There were Norwegians and

Speaker 2 42:52
First Nations, Hawaiians, farmers, local farmers, everybody, they all work together. They're working at the mill, Japanese and Chinese people as well. So they were a lot of different nationalities. This is the collapse.

Speaker 2 43:19
Later on, the meal was the dormitory in the mill was taken down and taken apart and moved to Mr. Frank Piatt seniors property at Beaver point. And then it was rebuilt and became the first beaver point Hall.

Unknown Speaker 43:46
About

Speaker 2 43:46
1934 This happened about 1936 The Beaver point Hall was burned down by arson. And same night Fulford Hall was also burned down by ours. And the very sad story about this is that the arsonist was a World War One veteran who had suffered very greatly from the chlorine gas that took place in the France or Belgium or wherever. And it affected his reasoning. He felt that his wife, who went to the dances at the halls wouldn't be able to go to the dance as if there were no halls. So we burned them both down. And later on that same night, he ended his own life. This is a really sad thing. They didn't do much for veterans in those days. So if if they came back from a war and they were affected by something like that there was nobody there to help them. Anyway the people who had anything to do with the hall got busy immediately. Beaver points Hall was built on rebuilt almost as quickly as Fulford Hall. And you know that Fulford Hall actually was rebuilt and then burned down again by an accident. But beaver point Hall was not rebuilt on the same property. It was rebuilt where it is today and it is the same hall. And that piece of property now that was originally given by Theodore triggy. To build church on I mean the school on was it became a park it's called Beaver Point Park. And it has the school little ramp and it also has the second V repoint. Hall. Later comers, the Montague bridge admins have a home down at the end of Bridgman road. And also at the end of King road. There were some people called that had something called the Ferguson polec estate. And polec is p o le K. And at that, it was like a resort. They had tennis and local people went to play there. It wasn't just visitors but there were people visitors to and it's it's now adjoining rooms property. adjoining room is a Stevens descendent one of the early people. Now another tragic event that happened was the murder of Alfred Douglas. We did have things like the murders and things at Beaver point. And they were always very sad and affected a lot of people. Alfred Douglas was known to be a very fine young man. He was Maria McCoy's son. She was one of the Hawaiian people ended up on Russell Island. quite famous. You hear a lot about Maria Mobley. And he was supposed to be a good worker and a very good person and well liked. Well, he was with a crew that was building Alfred Ruckelshaus. This is the same Alfa ruckle it grew up and built a house that's on the right hand side when you go into the property into the park. Well, anyway, this crew after they had finished the day's work, they went to George Williams house. George Williams was one of the crew. And they probably had a drink or two. And George Williams was a very jealous husband. And he accused Alfred Alfred Douglas of flirting with his wife, which everybody said was not did not really happen at all. And so he got into a southern rage and went upstairs. So Alfred Douglas wanted to calm the situation. So he followed him. And then George Williams came out of his room and shot Alfred, as he was standing on the stairs. George Williams ran off quite quickly, and it took a couple of days for them to find him. But when they did, he was arrested. And he spent 14 years in prison for the murder. Another very strange happening on Saltspring was the ghost of Mrs. Peavine. Bill connected Bill's daughter married this gentleman are known this fellow called P Vaughn who did not treat her very well. And when she was expecting twins, he beat her up and she not only lost the twins, but she also died. And from then on. A lot of people decided that there was a ghost. This would be in connectability orchards it is they at Bay Ridge strata development. And one of the people who saw the ghost was Grace King. Apparently she was walking through the orchard one night when she meant the ghost. But she wasn't the only one that she was one of the more the one that you would more likely think. Well, she really did. But anyway, Mrs. P Bynes ghost is supposed to still be there. So if you ever go to the Connect to Bill's orchard, you might meet the ghost. Now the young teachers often had problems. One young teacher called all of Rogers who belong to the Rogers family who lived up in the cranberry. Apparently, there was a person who was a stalker. And he had his heart set on all of Rogers. Well, he stalked her for several months. And every time she would be coming to the school or leaving the school, he was there to follow her. I do not know the details. I just know this is what happened because all of resigned at Christmas. And then my mother bought the job afterwards, the Stalker was still there. But apparently, it didn't bother mum, it gave all of Rogers a nervous breakdown. But my mother didn't really pay a lot of attention to it. And very shortly, she was already being moved by, by my dad. So I guess she was protected. But anyway, the stalker finally was stopped some authority came in and told him not to do this any longer. And apparently he did stop. And then a story one of my aunts told me that another hand said, may not have happened. Ants do this sort of thing. They don't always agree. Apparently, this man had a little girl and he lived across the road from the school at the time. And he struck the child quite forcefully, and the little child died. So he ran over to the school and told the teacher about it. And the teacher and the children came and the little child was prepared and buried. And the children went out into the woods and gathered wildflowers to put on the grave. Now this app told me the story said that the other half that said it didn't happen. She said that she was the one who prepared the little child for burial. This was never reported to anybody. It's not in a file anywhere. So it's hearsay, perhaps, but it's something that is was discussed at the time, and may probably be true. I would think it might be.

Speaker 2 53:14
There was our fellow that came to the McLennan farm one time probably in the early 1900s. He was fed because anybody who wandered by all with steak for dinner, and he was told he could sleep in the barn. Because that was another thing that happens if somebody wandered by and wasn't known. So he apparently he did that a couple of days later, he was found dead on the beach. They had an inquest about it. And they decided that he wasn't in his right mind. But my dad said that he seems to be perfectly in his right mind. And nobody knows actually what happened to him. His name was read. And this is all in this this inquest is in the records in Victoria. So, that's the history of an eye I don't really think I have anything else to say though.

Unknown Speaker 54:42
That's my book.

Speaker 2 54:49
I wrote a book about my grandpa. He's just working. Yes. And Frank thought that I should bring it here and sell it But I made it for my family. I didn't make it for selling. But anyway, it will be in the archives and in the library. So if anybody wants to read the history of, of, or the biography, I should say, of Alexander Stuart McLennan, and they'll be able to Frank put it together. He did a superb job. It's it's really, I'm very pleased with it. It's about what 83 pages, something like that. And so the history of beaver points in there as well, because you can't really write a biography about a settler and beaver point without getting a lot of the history in there as well. So anyway, is is is there anything anybody else? Say?

Speaker 2 56:00
Well, I am not doing Fulford I'm doing beaver point. No, it's not all of them walking down the hill. Yeah, yeah. But the Rogers up in the cranberry. That's the what Stanley was one of them. And all of and then there was another girl and another boy. Actually, we have their report cards in the archives. I should mention his two. There isn't really there, except for a couple of bits of gossip that came from my family, or family tradition, they call it to be polite. Almost everything that I mentioned today is in the archives. I don't know if any of everybody here has been to the archives. But it really is a wonderful resource. It's, it's spinning, what 20 years, it's, it's been put together for over 20 years. Most of our early families are represented. Certainly everybody that works in the Archives has chased down as many as we could possibly Chase. So it's, it's a very, very good resource. And it's something that is open on Monday afternoons and Thursday mornings. And it's worth the time especially if you have family ties here on the island. Got a huge staff now. Barb asked as has she's got so many connections and she is such an excellent manager. And there's this huge staff and lots of people to help it's it's just outstanding, it's getting better all the time

Unknown Speaker 58:11
Yeah, the website

Speaker 2 58:12
if you've got a computer with H TTP colon slash slash Saltspring archives.com And it's it's just excellent. No awful lot of stuff on there. And lots of links and things to frame in the basement of the library, which is not a very good thing. A basement isn't all that good. Well, some basements are good for archives because you know that the library is in such terrible condition that it's it's not a good place for it and the archive staff and the Historical Society and all of us are trying very hard to move to a proper place or hopefully have a library built a new library so that we can have a proper they have invited us to join them when they build but who knows when that's going to be has to pass you have to vote for

Unknown Speaker 59:29
yes

Speaker 2 59:45
I don't know that story was left on the yard diesel across the road I don't think that would be accurate. My my dad and his brother who got the property when my grandfather died, got along extremely well. And there was a great big barn there that over the years it was ready to fall down and Dimitri took a lot of props and put on each side of the barn to try to save it, and then it was 96 I think it was we had this great big snowstorm and that was the end of the barn. But I can't imagine you see the Stephens family got the property later on. And the barn was still there then but there might have been an earlier barn before my time

Unknown Speaker 1:01:01
cross what street

Unknown Speaker 1:01:04
Oh, McLennan drive one that he propped up was one

Unknown Speaker 1:01:16
Yeah, that was my uncle that was his property used to

Speaker 2 1:01:29
know but Dimitri might know I mean, they the Stevens were there for quite a long time I don't know who else would know about that barn being split

Speaker 2 1:01:51
Well, while Lotus Lotus might no I don't think I mean res younger than I am I think yeah, but Dimitri slipped right there all the time raisin Fraser slipped down and enrolled

Unknown Speaker 1:02:29
pardon me

Speaker 2 1:02:35
I don't know if he was or not. I know. His father. While there was the Yardley house, and then there was Andrews house, and then there's Peters which is sort of like a long house odd I don't remember him looking.

Speaker 2 1:03:15
I don't think the Stephens old Douglass's property. It was only it was only my dad's property that they had the fever point side of McLennan drive. The Yardley house, they might have been there or rented it or something. But they built a house on the other side. Toward beaver point. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:03:56
I really don't know. I don't think the Stevens any of the Stevens had the yard the house but they could have rented it.

Speaker 1 1:04:06
Any other comments, questions? Well, thanks very much, very for informative afternoon. We enjoyed it very much.

Unknown Speaker 1:04:18
I'm sorry, I got so muddled up.

Speaker 1 1:04:24
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