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Gwen & Lotus Ruckle

Accession Number Interviewer Charles Kahn
Date April 25, 1997 Location
Media cassette tape Audio CD mp3 √
ID 143 Duration 58 minutes




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Because I don't know that much about your family I guess I was trying to figure out the difference all the different people and I gathered that your mother was was a missus mechanic.

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My stepfather was

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So your mother was married to somebody else before that

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my father

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and where were they from?

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My father was born in Montreal. John Fraser the painter I'm from Montreal myself what kind of you know I wish face it we have a lot of reproduction my brother in Korea has one that's your brother

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think I have a copy of that

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so I met somebody on the island who was married to Grand Slams James Morris must have been about the same generation

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I know it's worked quite well sorry I always thought that it's pronounced Maria because he's from Montreal. But I quickly correct it in French at all

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This is

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Lawrence but we they brought this up to Vancouver edition

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and then we had another

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one that's from the Toronto Library

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put in about

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200 T

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bills several 100 people on the beach

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he did a lot of work on

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commission CPR first came he was O'Brien was given free passes expensive provisional allowance British Columbia know

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your father stay in Montreal.

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The family and all moved to New York because he was in New York with his paintings when he was doing my father went to Boston School of Fine Arts drama

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George Frazier No.

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Judge that's where he met his first wife because she was

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the first one that wasn't no.

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reform the Fraser dramatic company and they toured all states and territories as they call the upper and lower cameras. So when I think about 1970s

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in the late 1800s

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When did he meet your

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mother was living by that time my father was living in trunk Lake still in existence in the mountains Molly Jeffries does have cancer

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mother in law they were married

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friends Francis i

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So, did he did he ever come out he never came out here he was

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until I was 13 they moved to the northeast

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Daddy has gone into the store business he has a star and I imagine that was when Mali died they disbanded the dramatic company

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that must have been acquitted. Yes, definitely

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that part of the country was booing them because of all the mines in Camborne furnace and the heads of the lathe where they both came in from Ira and so, it was a very large mill opening in between so, he thought that he would do much better in the mail and it was never rebuilt

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with a with a with a they

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were on Yeah, I don't I don't think he ever made much money with the company or the store business or anything else.

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I don't think too many people make much money and

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he had all the government jobs. Postmaster roll for London mining Reporter

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How old were you? When did he died?

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He was killed in dynamite in 1916.

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You remember him? I mean, do you remember him? Yes. I

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couldn't remember him quite well.

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So you would have been only about five

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Yes, I was born and in 1911. In October I was told the phone

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So did your mother stay there for a while?

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Yes Mother took over all except the road firemen take baths. He ran the post office in the mining recorder or Sharjah telephone exchange in your switch to Camborne translate and so on.

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And when did you come out here

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in 1921

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Did you come directly

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from Camborne in November of 1920 mother in Victoria in December 28 We live there so February 21

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Do you have any brothers

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Don was still living here

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my three sisters my brothers

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were were they all from the same?

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No mother Mother was married three times. This was her second age to cry Yeah, we saw Cory feel or was he Oh ROI he was a carny mining engineer

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and then Annika spelt

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me an H I M

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Willis Fraser road our a and we never ever are nameless never wasn't stupid

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but there's another there's another phrase he wrote

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only one here and that was he was named after my brother and the same as my Hindi drive was It was named for my stepfather and I appealed public works to changes

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well there's still hope because they just changed the sign on the main road for Saltspring I don't know if you ever noticed that once I attended to work two words and the other side had it one word. Now they changed the one word so I decided to quit this distinctive actually because it's a totally different degree. So I don't know if they probably get that somebody complained or I was quite happy with the way it was because to me it epitomize the island never being able to agree on anything now I can't say that

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because it's so

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great with writing is in two words because for so many years the only

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beginning an argument for the two words

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I have to google myself and I'll remember you're making a capital and

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I've learned to work

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well we certainly didn't find where we first came to.

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So with Dun Dun

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appraisers as much as my sister Ruth and my brother Jack and then myself and

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then there was when when

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the mother's twin girls were older than we were quite a bit

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so according

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to the family as well no he was

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acquiring very young

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Did you yes hi

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we always do well.

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Or how old would he have been?

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I think the parents

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name was John according to John.

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Born 6535 years

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So what can you do

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a civil engineer training the mind to what did he do all gold mines

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were going to be 30

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early Gabriel there were a lot of

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a lot of hopeful people here I think they you told me quite a boat and he said that the best mine in BC for six months

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because I've been repeating that story it was too late it was too good i bet i got it wrong. You said something about a goldmine I was here on an apartment and he said it was the best gold when beaten for six months maybe next six days

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into hold on that should be covered up down because what's covered over and not only that the trailer

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the trailer goes up to

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camping because it's right on the edge of people from the bottom

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my father's mother time they were married

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this guy was your mother and when was that other picture taken? Quite later

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39 Because Mother hasn't taken my brother's service he loves her mother 75 or so

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so he basically he basically was mining here on trying to decide they have

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enough no and let's see those

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are the upper country and come to the coast buying Saanich Peninsula they found this place on Salt Spring was for sale with rich revisions.

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So they bought the whole thing how many acres was it altogether? 600 horses, where you hear so many rumors about I always thought it was 640

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somebody somebody told me that Bridgman? 100 Somebody else told me all this, but it was a section with my employees.

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Well, it was 640 when we originally the Patterson was included in You mean the one that

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maybe the 40 acres for the school spike for the acres was part of Mr. Spike preemption and he gave

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gave my opinion are crazy. Well, you see some people say

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all audio Andrew Stevens got original deed from the land office and was given turned over from Mr. Speicher to the viewer points. There was no mention of that particular deal. Here they were only allowed to to preempt so much and so I think I think he preempt that

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Yeah. Because they really were partners but never married or having kids as far as I do. That would be before your well before you're

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gone through from younger tricky angels and men from ritual still Last weekend you

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happen to know before your time but I was looking at some information today

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tricky had three daughters one was ama one was a Clara birthday Bertha she was the one who married

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no Clara married or was it clarity or is that was the schoolteacher

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so she she married

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was a school she taught at Beaver points and she became a Johnson

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they can

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do a YK I think

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what was the what? Somebody showed me a picture. Oh, okay. It was the record and I guess I got confused. That one Mary. Claire. Claire, Claire

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and when they were first when they were first married, they lived in the little log cabin. still in existence. They individually rose Angus Michael was born

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at the end of Britain

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Britain before you turn off

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and that they didn't live over

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there we're building they're still building their house over which was that that was the end of the trade deal. Where it was given to them for a wedding or something that I know Angus Michael was always very proud of the fact that he was born in

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Richmond Richmond never really really did use it as a vacation.

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Well, he kept he kept a manager

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so with the farming stuff, the orchards and

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everything seemed very short. Order.

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Manager Mr. Neal Mr. Dean's uncle Mr. Lumm? No, we're very good car.

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So I saw reference somewhere to Mr. Keeley. Who is supposedly taking care of the property? was talking e IG H Li Er l EY

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current age were there before

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time to time I'm talking about the reference list within a reference to a fellow working who apparently was crazy and Chuck shot a few people

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that was longer

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stories. They were living in the old triggy Remember Charlie Munger was stuffing

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That's right. Yeah, he was he was shot

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down there in the old trading the old trivia brothers it was on the right hand side as you go down the present across the creek

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you're continue to farm the property

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Oh yeah living with the crop this Mr. Attorney Wonka has a team and

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they have a couple of horses

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have lots of sheep got up to nearly a couple of 100

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So John Charlie Munger Can you can you tell me a little bit about your family? I don't know my

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brother Mr. Jim on the place for now

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lived in various places the parts of the park called the Peavine place

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where exactly is that your property

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when you get to the top of long hills

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outside of the gate

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away up to the top of that road that goes into the rain coming you never ever notice that just as your turn coming this

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way or coming going up it's

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just turning the corner

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I was looking for it today but I think I probably I thought it was inside the gate but it's outside that's where Dave Beckman

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for a long time

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that actually that's actually part of the park so the park actually goes beyond the beyond the gates

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Oh yeah. well beyond the gate.

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I wonder why they put the gate before

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people out at night from going down to a campground and having

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Charlie monk lived in the

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time later he lived on the Patterson English church on Mr. Cecil Abbott's

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document to help him by the place and he even built a little house for charging require my

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parents were his parents the first generation

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in England always Charlie and Jim are they came by myself

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I read about them but I unless you sort of know something about them you can't really

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visualize being shot and shooting when somebody's involved in something like that sticks in your mind they have

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one daughter Harry. Mr. Monk has sold a piece of property and it has been separated from the original farm. We went off to England and never came back. So venture and their taxes are in reverse. When he dies tomorrow it was never never included in the slate. So after Harry was a mining engineer and after he retired he enlarger came back on Stevens road that's where they're right next to the brown people that are right next to us.

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Well, basically Elon or somebody

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from the water

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for a long time they owe me As Walter had a terrible fight there was no way that they could possibly get to their place without going through laser engraving or because of an enormous bluff sticking up away my inner people are the Browns wanted to get this little piece of access to play eventually the public board made them gives them they made the Browns so they can get into their

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20 foot corner field I mean it was ridiculous are

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going there are there

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because somebody told me

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yeah well that's Mark Yeah

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How would he be

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approximately the same ages so I get the daily seven

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is fairly well mobile gets around more or less far as his mind goes was martyred

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what kind of work

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did he do? He was a mining engineer trying to get their mind and brain are

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different different mines they work on

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Well normally retired a farmer starts he has been growing a big garden going into the pharmacy

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pharmacy and

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I remember coming coming along in my canoe and I pulled up at a beach there and BARRY

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BROWN Howard Byron had all his sheep done there too and they run right up to Harry Are you allowed this sizes of blocks are on the other side of the block what we call clear place where the water comes to down to the water

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yeah well there seem to be two two blocks and there's a little beach in between and we pulled in at the beach and then walked up to the top of the hill were actually

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that would be hard

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so the brown property then is on that road the quick when you go down Stevens road to go down

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to the brown drove down just going to separate so who

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has the driveway that comes right off and students can drive right in and then there's water access you can go down to the

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wrong side the the access to that beach goes down right alongside

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or the flooding property interesting

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water access two sides of the property because they have Eleanor points and the houses as you say on this side and then they go around to that beach

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So Margaret, Margaret, was was daughter

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Jamie one of the original charity was the bachelor all these lights never met.

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So how was he related?

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Oh father was

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always brother Jim.

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We were one of the early school teachers for us

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you only think about a school teacher teacher named Miss Crawford. Oh All around nine to 12 I've heard

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from a lot of people before so maybe you might know I was talking to John Coltrane runs out at the farmers Institute and you don't have got that not there she grew apparently and it shows where people live on the I was talking to him yesterday

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so I decided to Alyssa I got a long time ago when we made up the history I think she was she might not have been hit really long probably one I think

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So how long did that did they have that property before before your your night

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go start selling

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I don't know he took it over and he

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came back from overseas start selling

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I'm not too sure what's somewhere else

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so he got all those houses down on

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that was the first subdivision subdivided almost

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and then went to the beach but I mean

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Doris Anderson, first please know the first page where the Rogers house is made of cement blocks Lindores Andersonville. I'm Alan Kurgan

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the individual houses on the

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beaches he sold us the mountain to beach emerged again

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each part was the last part

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yeah how much how much was it but obviously it wasn't

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I don't know I don't know

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for sure I just I just

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flown by the people that's the other end of the process. So there

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so he he broke he broke it out

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you will want to charge a car lens now that was part of the process. Elon Musk Mary Lou those were they always had those and

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I guess the product is sold to the beaches is probably the least useful or at least farming.

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Well, except it was the cheap rain.

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But when it was when it belongs to tricky, it was mostly inertia. I mean, that was not the big thing was

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dragging Detroit in for

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1500 18 Architects often reference where they had the legislative record tomorrow yeah

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all that proof comes in

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still picked a lot of fruit from that place after several years of all shipped to the company and then they use it for fever for all their jams and mincemeat and so long winded that as

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well from 19 I'd forgotten just I guess we shipped to really jam company until the CCR stop bringing the interviewer because they will they were all hold on to the worst down here straight to Vancouver.

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What are they suffering

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because the ferry started running from shorts. And that's hard to put a crimp in

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because it was the other way

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much handier for us. For us reading for everybody and be resilient when the bulk came in here.

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The CPR books stopped at certain certain places one day and certain other places

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were point three volts a week Tuesdays Thursdays and Saturdays

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not because I hadn't read it again.

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So the the what the rent again?

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Oh yeah. Let's see Dr. Randy again. I can remember where it ran again.

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This OPEC never runs again. Just ran from Wednesday it did run them out again

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actually I know a lot of people say that to go the other route

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without being difficult, difficult to make the connection. Barely tender. The lady window one lady has her mother

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extended care important dear ones. struggle she has to get home again

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probably easiest thing to do is take your school board to do on the on the on the reverse trips like when they were coming from Ghana. When they go to pick the kids up from Dalian they can take you from here to there and then drop you off. And then when they dropped the kids off in the afternoon they can bring you back because

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yeah but this time but she was

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so she would have to shoot AFRICOM with the kids and then you say

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far as shipping things to the mainland is almost prohibitive how we used to dispose of all our lambs for course

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will be the fruit market drop off at all.

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My two younger brothers kept on taking it into Victoria. They started packing and taking Wilson's afternoon Frank kept on all the time Donald was overseas. When Donald came home for his sixth I guess it was he went on with the farm nondurable he wasn't the cherry on the successful fruit anyway suffered so care nerves resulted service the couldn't climb the trees and gradually everything just

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fell apart vote for you before

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we win

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that sort of disappointment getting rid of that property

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well, it shouldn't be the disappointment. The lessons he didn't get

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even even when

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he left when you bet property he had absolutely nothing to do after that they moved up to Prince George or Dr. Feet First of all along and he worked on them. They were building work in the office up there for a while he married a schoolteacher and she was teaching school but sort of kept the door

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then they gradually move back to the large went on teaching.

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I see letters handwritten to be a champion of

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the laws of need to try to persuade somebody we reply reporting part should be changed and tricky.

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To get taken up to the top, I

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will I will have to say I don't think that whatever has been the reporting part of it hadn't been for Donald. Because when they decided, again the school board decided to close the record. He certainly while everybody else was wringing their hands and wondering what they could do while preserving that 40 acres. It wouldn't be long from putting the Ganges Elementary School.

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He got busy with the member that time did get it Oregon. It was done almost before anybody realized that was being done.

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Certainly done before.

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I'll have to admit. He really loves Andrew Stevens always got the credit for creating part but actually when he has he has the correspondence here. Donald has certainly Donald initiative started the ball rolling

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Mr. Very angry with timber.

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Which, which which part

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of that story though.

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The same thing with the things that the Japanese talked about Gavin didn't have a chapter in the Japanese. I think they belong in the work. At one point, every hero, Mr. Kimball. Reverend Wilson refers to Mr. Kimbo a couple of times well before you

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but it sounded like he had his own piles. We were doing piles descending to China. They were sending somewhere else. Because it sounded like it was a Japanese camp rather than Japanese workers working for somebody kind of interesting.

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Because they had a group of Japanese that worked as contractors. helping all these pretty answers to their land even grandpa had happened to who worked here land land and so on they weren't they were right that was at seven o'clock there they came from Korea they were sort of they sort of contracted for the who was in charge I had no idea I never found any records to give me

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there was one couple a bit obviously lived on this place for quite a long time because they had a little there in the first patch on the dam and these waves we still have all Medan moving

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she prides herself I think

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that would be so far ahead of the time that they came to the island

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Daddy was born

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yeah her family actually were here before they were here and then they went away and they came back again

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still have a

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photograph of the houses incorporated into this

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whenever they start talking

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about this heritage building he's saying well one and heritage because I couldn't remember when that was built the other end certainly is heritage because it was a house with Japanese

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characters within the beholder. Like when they start talking about Kevin they call it a heritage I can go through the process. I think that that maybe should be considered heritage but I'm not too sure but I went up to talk to Jordan Crawford arranged for me to speak to the

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I have to be looking at heritage buildings there was oh good I'm gonna see a heritage building sooner do I get there then I'm told that they just burned down a couple of years with a firecracker the fire department cannon burn

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gets built new.

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Yeah. Actually daughter daughter Sharon.

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So then some time I guess in the 60s You're grown in the last piece off

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I have.

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Well, the other side's the Fraser

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when we've done what you did

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then you can't you can't live here. So you didn't have to do very far. No.

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Three years previous.

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How was your husband?

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His memory about

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memories just disappearing or is it all? No

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he started having these peculiar seizures and you're illogical trouble causes the brain to die whenever he has another one or more brains the only way that we could ever ascertain actually is take into Victoria and go through a lot of tests and everything in a tizzy because there's probably nothing

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going on

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most days he's up and dressed Jerry chair some recently has almost a week in bed and we all decided he perked up again next week command has always been miserable

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when did they don't that wouldn't be a good place.

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Oh he was into extended care by the time they assessed in fourth because I had yours turned into a bedroom and I had been here for three years then they decided it was going to be the the one I just happen to have him in the hospital for respite when when this vacancy came up

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so extended care to the people indefinitely

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they all ganged up on me while the vacancy was there, because Kevin might be wrong. So I still feel awful about

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talking to Grinch Who kept asking me to come home when they're coming home but I guess

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he's forgotten hope.

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He doesn't seem to understand where we go and we lose off