141_Murakami-Kimiko.mp3

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20.02.2023

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So what I what I

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was looking at I had the you may

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have seen my book I think I gave a copy to Richard my book yeah and now I'm writing a history of soft drink

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with the Historical Society they've they've been working on it for a while and they've been doing some research and Vancouver before

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I got on that island

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building campaign Biggie had he had been great and all kinds of shame

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I don't remember

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which will this is my this one here yeah we have got a copy of that yeah, that's a good book so I was looking at look at this photograph in here one of the school

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picture of the school you know obviously the school and Nike and they're all these all these names here Japanese name Ito

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humidty material

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no information is

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marked on it

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I didn't listen to it again after I taped it. For some reason I still got the tape at home. I can copy it again. I copied

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Luke Merica.

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So my nephew nephew

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what I was interested in was when When did when the Japanese people first started coming here

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I got this information that there were 10 Japanese on the island.

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Yeah, I saw something like that. And do you know where they came from? They come from Japan. Did he come from Hawaii?

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Well, that's totally awesome. Japan, because some came from Hawaii. Oh yes. I think that was later after the ICO and mica did come over there. Yeah, that was later right. It wasn't

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interested they come down alright.

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Anyway when was about a month ago, there was there was some people from Richmond who came here and I have their name. But anyway, he said that his sister is buried somewhere in the forest on the island in the forest. This was way before 1900 must have been

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the guy who came down all right

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I can't really say you

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was going to be a district was buried in the ninth 1900s That's quite a long time.

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Because he could have been the youngest. Yeah. I felt like he was his mother. No, remember those Japanese people that came from Richmond? Yeah.

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Like when did when

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did your family your family came in 1922 was thanking

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you you said you bought

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that 1918 1919

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December variants 1920 That's what my notes

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on the tape on the tape that you said you came to crop and first in 1993 That's why I thought maybe it was 1920 because I thought it might be a year later the organizing

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20

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So when you came in 1919 20 where there were there are the Japanese people already here with

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a URI and

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and a three bachelors and the bachelors means we're kind of a bachelor lovely lovely

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boys. How do you I

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isa

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you am I that's the first thing

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I always have to name

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are he to me is his surname. Okay. And in the Orient they always put their name first. Yeah. So in your case you might put it in

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regular order. Okay, and what was his first name Margolin

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know Michael Moss he'll in Japanese, you know exactly what you hear. Okay.

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Remember, we went to Japan a few years ago and I thought that it was a language I might be able to learn. I'm like Chinese it seems a lot more difficult.

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Like to read the Chinese newspapers

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right after I taught English as a second language, and I had mostly Japanese and Chinese students and they could they could read the script, but they couldn't talk to each other

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okay, the surname that's the second one.

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Ta ke BEETFUJIJ IR and then who the other ones

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whose name is cut Beto. He is a last name. surname is slippery. Okay. t o t t o Ri and Katara o Ke Ke are

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so, so when you came there was in the Carlos, the Ito's the new Missouri and the three bachelors? Yeah, was there other people to other Japanese The Mikado, how many how many were there and

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they had six children. So they were

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two adults. And what what kind of work did

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deals? They weren't a deal. Any kind of laborers, laborers

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that they work through

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that time money to them. Give us a day.

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Actually, I've even read less than that. 275 a day. I mean, apparently were very good workers to

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Japanese are good work.

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They seem to be the preferred workers. So do you know Do you remember the names of the of the two Because the husband and

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the father's name is Massoud Kiki RMA s UKICHI. What was the wife's name?

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And Ricardo is ma mi K. A deal I

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can't remember, but we'll find out.

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Okay, well, let's do it again number. So

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were they here up until up until the war? So they were interns during the wars. And today always a mess. massive kitchen. Kitchen did he always do? He never did anything else never had a farm or

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suddenly later on, they bought a house or Mikado build the house. They built a house later, they bought a house. Where did they live?

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Next

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Next to Legion. Oh,

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yeah. Yeah. Okay. So they were on that road? Yeah. Oh, okay.

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Well, maybe they'll build that house or something.

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And he always made enough money just like a 275 a day. Yeah.

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But you see, at that time, the whites that they don't have to pay the Japanese as much as the white because they're living standard is low. But that doesn't make sense. Because they were paid low wages they could better themselves. But they weren't

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sure. These people did the Mikado speak English to pretty much did they? Did they become Canadian? Canadian?

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Yeah, they were anxious I think so. One thing that I do

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What are you looking at American climate information?

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Name of all the Japanese were on the island in 1941 When were exiled and then the number of children so there were a total of 25 adults and 52 children the day that we were thrown off the 2550 kids they were all Canadian born and my mother was the only Canadian born out

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you are the only Canadian born out Davis

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Yeah, what were their names

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the man's name was NACA na ka said they had six children

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seems to be the standard and what was the woman's name? What was her

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I don't know he she died

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when you came to about 1920 She died okay

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at the cemetery you'll be able to find out when she died her name is there to go

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left when I looked in the cemetery I've got the math on the center.

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Okay, what's her name was she died in 1928.

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What was referred to

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as a TSU

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work did not Mikado

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either he he you know, when you

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were about four

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I saw you know saying when we

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coordinate you know we're where you go to work and then there's another road Going down to North Mountain NO NO NO NO NO on the main road here on the main road just before you come to the school

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like this there's a main road and there's a turn and then there's

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the okay above the road and this is North Android it was on this side right here on the corner you leave that lamb or

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chicken or chicken and

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1000 chicken

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so he was he was in

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right there on that corner

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so he he earned his living with chickens like selling selling the chickens for food or or

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things and I'm sure

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they grew vegetables to feed themselves to sell

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okay now all the people

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yeah now the new Missouri's

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oh you know you know the story of Mr. Bullock he lived in one of that one of the houses on bullet states

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used to be great big English and

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then down below that was Mr. Bullock's house but not in the Missouri no Missouri lived in a smaller house quite a lot of

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people said moving up being paint

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still there in the house is still there because we went driving by the other day in lungs is that's where they live yeah you could see it on the upper Ganges road can make right yeah

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yeah, so you could see it from up again just really

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pointed out they live there

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and making no money

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before that yeah

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so what was this your new Missouri's first name?

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Oh, I don't have his name because they weren't here for no no. We are here. Hai KOHIKTAR Oh cortado Kohtaro what's his wife's name? You forgot okay. She's

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not on know what she did?

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No, no, she was still alive. But she

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she rented to her son theory

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Okay, and

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many Japanese voted.

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For children, for children

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under salad

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under Weir,

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same house you know, my

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mother says there was another Is it a family or just a man man. His name was under a n d o Mr. Rondeau. remembers her name. He lived with the NAMA dairy. He lived with a number of areas and probably worked for numerous you

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need a vague good coughing

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good carpenter what he did for a living and he has some chicken too

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so what he raised in the chickens also for eggs which he also sold

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not place chicken

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and then oh and then we found out that that around 1912 And before you know where the good rates property is in Serbia yeah yeah anyway to government road there

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yeah but there was a family there Mr and Mrs. Emoji S H I M M O J i

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do they have kids or it's either one that died Oh know we're the ones who died in childbirth

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or that the Jews are easily

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easily we're going to heck with easily where did they live mother?

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I told you oh

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okay another family that lives on the bullock estate it's called easily UMR you know their first name

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they i n IC H are getting at easily

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and what was his worth?

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He died before

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so it would be four or were they

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here when you came to

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know they were there already? Yeah. Oh yeah. So these these are our pre 1920s

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Yeah. You don't

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know boy, two boys two boys

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and the wife died in childbirth right

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what kind of work did he do

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Oh labor they were able to

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mainly work on the bulk of

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the work from Mr. Bullock

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I don't know how house right now. He used to work

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for somebody who wrote a story about you guys Oh, you mean the superintendent? The superintendent. Yeah. Somebody else and then you know where all of Laird lives on the kitchen of date on upon Rainbow Road. She has been breakfast.

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Can now you know, you know the root canal? Yeah.

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Yeah. Well, anyway,

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let's call up the kitchen.

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Well, her parents are the kitchen, kitchen or kitchen. Kitchen. It's the kitchen. Preparing for Kitchener. Anyway, you know, after she got her divorce, she moved back to her parents.

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The state. And that was that was where she was. Yeah, that's where she is

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now. What she just joined. It was it was the old house that belonged to her parents. Yeah. And she just added on to it.

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She built a new car. Yeah. But anyway,

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there's there is that old log house still there? I don't know. But well anyway, that was a log house there's an old old log house close to the water and a federal name. This is his first name put on Gorillaz t o r a d o R O and his surname is Aidan a ei Zed as he lived there pre 1912

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Yeah so anyway his grades up in the graveyard or what is

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what When did he do it?

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He died on the annum but we don't know doesn't say on the grid No well actually there's just a Margaret you know, during the war the whites on the island kept everyone gravesite really cleaned, you know, like mow the lawn and everything. But when we got back and said before the Japanese side was a garbage dump. It was like full of all the garbage and Ember clean and it was brambles garbage, anything that you can throw in there so it tooks mum and dad and all of us I don't know months to clean it out. And so all the markers were gone you know the markers that they had left they were all gone so But dad knew approximately where they were and so

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you created new markers

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that that made these six by six or four by four four by four posts four by four post and then that wrote all the names of these people in Japanese and put it up but I noticed that most of those are gone

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we're limited to just one a couple of years ago and comparing them with ours was

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just a complaint letters

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she put a hex on on the people who Oh Vicki I don't even see why

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I probably did read so many letters

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it was funny was also sad

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maybe it's a

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bit of a California No it's yeah

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and then mother Where did we go to the

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to our to our Grow Island item

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data as you know in Japanese it you sound every syllable a phase

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to have known and what kind of work did he do?

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Well, they were all laborers day laborers

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so this is also this also premiered in 2008

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More people free bachelor do to get to earn money or they mostly work as a day laborer for Bullock's estate. Least

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he was trying to Japanese people. He started like a very, very nice person from what I've read. I hadn't read anything about Japanese people working on. I read about all the boys in New York. But they always seem to be English people.

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But when did he die? He died during the war a letter but 43 or 40 or something like that. It's in here somewhere I think. Yeah. But anyway, it's okay. Okay, now see that was on the window. It was that these cars

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used to be given Victoria.

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Oh, mama, you said there was another USRP on the canal. Oh, at the end of cranberry. Cranberry row. Great. Cranberry landing. Yes. Mother says there's a gate there. Is it on the left side or the right side. Everybody is on the right side. When you say broader, it's on the right side. Yes. She said there's a gate there and that was the place where this family called Iraqis to live?

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And they were here pre nursing. 21

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there were they here?

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Early right here. Really, really early log house. They had a beautiful dog

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do you think it's still there? Maybe you felt the same way. Oh, yeah.

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What were their first names? Remember

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the first name? See, it's hard because mom was just a kid. At that time. Yeah. But she remembered their primary learning at the end of the rainbow road if you go all the way yeah, baby. Yeah.

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Some people call it cranberry. Oh, yeah.

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Yeah

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you know what they did for women.

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And everybody gets called us talking

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with a girl or I would be around the man

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I was writing related to my dad was your daughter. So

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your four daughters four that into order

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I left

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your house.

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Nine months.

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January, when Mikey born 17. It was bright. Know Alice is rising.

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Well, you

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know, she's mentally handicapped. And then it's me. And

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she doesn't get involved with any of the other projects. Fundamentally.

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No, see. It's like I used to go to Japan. I have her with me into us. And so I took her down to that

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place where they have a variety farm where they have you know, she, she has a very high mentality. For

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me, she's bilingual. You know, he reads all those things. And she could have been trained to be very independent. But you know, she's 66 now. So she came in at 66 Yeah. So she was brought up in the air where they were always protected. Although she's, you know, she's really really,

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I think it's better now. You know? Oh, they do so many things. I do volunteer with challenge people. Smart Cafe because we cook a meal together two or three of help with the meal and two or three who are still at the table. And then a lot of mentally challenged people come for lunch. Oh, that's good. Yeah, for the ones who make it easier to get paid for it. Oh, great. I just got a feeling and I spent a year trying to help No, I don't really and he's and he's in town all the time. He does some cleaning for Molex and he does a great point. Anyway, I was trying to

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get a few words that can only get so far yeah. But he I think for him it was mostly just having a company name

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and he's quite short and walk with him I know

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he could

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or you mean Richard place

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now he doesn't work there anymore. Now he worked at Molex. He also has But he did. Four years ago.

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He learned to read and write, because she went to grade four or five. And she kept up until the I thought she was quite normal really? Until. Until what happened? Suddenly, after that pseudo epilepsy did not yes or no, no, what I'm doing this for is something different. No, she she takes pills, like Dilantin and cinnabar if you haven't had a convulsion or seizure for what, 50 years or something, yeah. So it's you go to school. Yeah, she went to right she and I used to go to this school in that very bottom room was our first room

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or Yasmine. Donated

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41 I don't know.

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When you watch that,

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yeah. They can

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everybody be well, that's another story is she

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going by

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when Gavin was dying, and he was in the hospital, and his brother Colin, to fetch my mum and dad, because he said he wanted he had something to tell my mom and dad but we never found out because mom and dad wouldn't go

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over there interesting to

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me, give me a running

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so anyway, you know, the family that came I thought I said that at the beginning where he said that his father and mother's name was doodle. And she's cut TV. And they worked in the forest, you know, doing cutting trees and things like that. And I guess that's how they earn. And the mother worked just as hard you know, like, sighing and reading and falling. Fishing miscarried three times. And there's one child buried in the forest somewhere but they don't know where are the ones

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who were born here. Before. Before?

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Oh, yes, definitely. It says he said that he thinks that was before any of the Daphnis came to the island. They were here and what was his father's name was judo and Jay you are all right last name is.

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Euro

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T A JIRIJIRI. Card DV

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and even as well, his wife

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but she's got She's

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great.

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She miscarried. she miscarried three times.

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And then one child is buried in the forest somewhere on the

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road they work

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well, they have he doesn't eat you know, this is a story that he was told his father I think he said it was his father. His name was Kaz ke from Richmond. I was going to contact them when I got home to get more information to another family

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Okay, okay

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the next family and when did this esophagus come? Were they here when you call yes oh okay pre 1920 And what was the man's name

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remember a lot more than

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I would remember but anyway I can get you the name

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and how much people remember

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to stick on mister missus okay where did they live in you know where the MB bakery is if you walk along that street there's no closer to the bakery yeah I know you know like you know this is where the bakery The bakery is right here is that hill that goes up

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the bakery bakery

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going up okay, okay

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for the danji Okay, okay

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along here a mother cookie here yeah our springs right there but before you get there okay. But there's a bunch of Gaffney

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I knew that it's the type of greens that the Japanesey you know and it's still growing they're where they used to live

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in the spring or in the summer you'll see these big green leaves are about that thick and then it's just a mask there yeah

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would call that green

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that's in Japanese

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so that they plan to do

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next year I could

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be quite good but only mum could cook it otherwise if other people could get it done.

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You know. So, what did What did Mr. And Mrs. Baca do they go to speaking also

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then after season they come home

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so, we make an offer in the in the season to support himself you know

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come home and coughing mode

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in the store

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you know that old you made it to 100 Sack yourself

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from all the tree auger

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and they made charcoal from the older that he sold it in the store.

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No

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more bass cutting Manager

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So, what did he do with the Terkel? Jason they send it to Victoria being a

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did they make make it out of alder that came from Gilbert North's farm

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apparently where they used to live, you know are there for kids currently in the forest, and that's what gave me the charcoal and that was all more property was whose property was that mother?

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I I think that

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that's the most McAfee Naka Oh Mr. McAfee.

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Mr. McAfee

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and they have brought this lady at the boat 2020

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frogs to identify

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but

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about 19 Live grades 1818

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And then when did you go back to Japan mother

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to baby Srijit

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three of the last children and she lived to the ripe old age of 98 or some 80 to 92

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came to the cemetery

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to represent

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NO NO NO when they went back to Japan to do more wrestling

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Oh sumo yeah it was big.

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It was the big country you know, he wasn't into the real high priestesses

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they had but

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he went back to Japan

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and they lived on an island they had a really beautiful in Japan

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sheet will be beautiful. My husband and I went over again

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so that they have they have that place before they will live here. Oh yeah. Somebody just left it there and

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he's the first time so he just inherited it.

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Why would he Why would he have left it in the first place usually usually it was the one who didn't inherit

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let's see no

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Now I've got a list of people here thought about us if you don't know when they came

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they came to meet me

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after you open you know that big estate that the markets have now that you have 640 acres on Sunset drive

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you said at the moment still half

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Yeah, they still have part of it. They have the whole 640 acres after the road so

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we're both

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it's on Sunset drive. They should they have 640 acres one section and it was all having three miles of

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Hebron Georgia part of the channel Ruggeri No,

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no no what was the part along the water beautiful day in all kinds of things

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a big day that way duck

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says from that from the

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parliamentary level

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he is

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gonna use the Simpsons brevity. On the GMAT should be

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actually, it's not much it's pretty crucial to speech Are

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they now living

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father's name is terrazzo

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o r

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t o r a Zed

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didn't they have greenhouses or no? I didn't do any farming there was

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they didn't have a farm did they? What did they do for

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I don't know.

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How did they get over our wetlands?

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He bought just before

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you mean just before First World War the second or the Second World War? What kind of work did he do

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but the Dane Anthony no all Kubota touristiques

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oh he had a boat and what used to kill things so I was

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nine nice before making court unfortunately.

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But I mean what did he do for a living? He did mostly

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oh no but so he did farming them Arabic although a little bit of farming he grew very unusual produce and sent it to Vancouver Lake what kind of what kind of

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snowpack what else I guess Japanese vegetables

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was serving a Japanese market Vancouver

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Vancouver

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can't remember that's another thing we have to find out. So is

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that is that? Are their names are on your list as well? No, because they didn't die on the internet.

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Oh, yeah. We're good. Mix it up. This is Jackie died in Toronto. To adventure Daisy.

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Genius. Really?

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Very nice. Have you been? Oh, yeah. If you've been to the Japanese?

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No, that was after they visited Ireland

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for quite a while as I was when I first moved from Montreal to Toronto. And yeah, you're right. The Japanese senator was

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there was a no and I was there either. Okay, so they had five children. Yeah. Yeah. And what about Missy was

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I think he died

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anyway,

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okay. You got Mikado and then a family. When did the money come in? When did you move

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from Japan?

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The one that becomes Saltspring immediately. Right after? Okay about 1921 Is he your cousin? No, no, no, no. His wife was your half sister right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Baby. Okay, this name is Maureen. M O R I. E I O County. Children

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became in 1921

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and bought them and they lived.

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Word carpenter. No, he

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was a boat, boat car. Yeah, he came from really interested boatbuilding family and he married my mother's half sisters his wife was

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our I HEI Morty

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and he mind your half sister alternate you pee I know

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her surname was okay

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she was but she became your account

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when did they get married? In Japan?

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Why did your parents come to Canada?

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Well, that's another story. I have to tell you. Okay, okay. You got the number, right.

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Yeah, he's

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okay. There's another mark Cami. Last time you were on Morty. He lived in Missouri

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or didn't have a wife? No.

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Okay, but there was a wife. Oh, yeah.

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How many children? Oh four for children.

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Okay, we're going back to Marty here

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who's going back to Oh, yes.

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Okay. Well, they lived on sharp road. I'm building Robinson rose

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Robin serialization graphic to show you

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know how did you get into their plates from Robinson road or not Robinson road org know how did you get in there from Sharp road

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sharp road

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Oh, well you know that is right now short road and then before that there's an angled road going off the main road

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is canal road all of their property was right here. Right in there right in there

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are your father's was uh, you

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know, my my grandfather's property was 200 acres from the canal like this all the way up to Palo Alto right to Rainbow Road rainbow you can write that later. Yeah.

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Right. So it was it was sort of between stripe

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and the canal road and below Lord okay below Lord

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Where's where's O'Connell Creek.

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Oh, Cow Creek is on my grandfather's okay, I know okay, I know Creek. Creek a change that was canal was canal right there. Oh, yeah. It's in here. So you're coming up? Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Up to the bridge titled up there that's interesting. Was your father's property? Well, yeah. What can you do this for? Yeah. Are you okay? That's okay. Confusing.

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Okay. Oh, no. Next. There's another letter kami. His name is tsu, Su,

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Su, and

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are awesome. Your cameras

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What happened to his wife mom we sent his wife

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mother and daughter off for me.

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So she went back she sent her back

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send her that she said the mother

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the mother in law was living with them before what happened to her?

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She's data dependent

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so I've lived with his mother and his wife and two children

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and how is he how is he related?

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Not related.

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Just the same Yes. But

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so So when he came to Salt Spring his wife was already gone for it so he

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so that she is she married or she's not married. So she's

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when I try to tour and you have to tour, and I have an hour this year

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children and six great grandchildren, and one more on its way. But anyway, I wanted to teach high school here when I graduated. And they told me in no uncertain terms that we don't want to.

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Graduate

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Are you went to school up

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to Trinity. And then I went to UBC to grit my teeth. So anyway, that was interesting. I got a job at Kitsilano with

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you think that thought was better in Vancouver?

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Oh, definitely. Definitely.

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Was it was? It's interesting. I think it's partly because it's a small community, rural community. I think it tends to be accessible to minority groups.

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Well, they didn't want to hear in the first place. Like, when we came back. They had a meeting up at a trading company, the upper part of the trading company, and 85% of the people attending didn't want to get back on. So when we there was a lot of hostility. And there were exactly five people and sit there was yeah, that was and so ever since then, we've really suffered a lot of racism. Richard did tell your story, Richard. I mean, that's another book to write to me. It's amazing how I took it all. But anyway, we've got it all sorted out with a site that you know, the people here were really surprised that we would have the gall to stick our necks out and fight for ourselves. They thought that you know, they could knock us down and we'd stay there. So I think that kind of irritated you know, how dare you and then mother's gone. Anybody get away

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do you write your cover letter that you wanted to come back?

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No, my husband did come back. Because my mother father

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No, he's very strong. But anyway, my mother wanted to be as far away from here as possible. She wanted to go to Toronto. Yeah. When they dispersed. She didn't want

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anything You have a bad taste in your mouth.

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You want to go with far away all a lot of bad memories.

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But it's changed now.

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It's hard because you know, you know, some people think she's bitter, but she's not very forgiving. And they think that she's bitter. But you know, when you're asked to keep repeating her pain over and over and over again, it's not really easy.

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Actually, I didn't really particularly want to talk about the internet. I was just more interested in people living here. Because they know the internet. Anyway, it's been, it's been written about written about MIT and

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I'm writing a book.

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And you're writing about batteries?

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The family has, yeah. That's inclusive. You know, when my dad died, and part of his it was that was part of his life being permanent. So the minister related his whole story, you know, how? Well you should have seen some of those people in general. There was so I don't know if they were angry, annoyed or uncomfortable hearing. Yeah, they were very, very agitated. How could you put that in?

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You know, a lot has been written about it quite relatively recently. But for a long time, that wasn't even in the history books. Like I we didn't exist. The first time I really knew about the internment was when I read Joyce. And they made a big impression on me because I think she was really good at capturing the feeling.

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Yeah, she's very good with words. But anyway, I was gonna tell you about my grandparents.

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So they were Fischer. And the first time they actually my you lived on that day before you moved over here permanently, didn't you? Yes. Before I get banned, yeah. So this was about

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born of a day. Okay.

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So this was pre that Behold, were you when you went to 812? No, no, no, I'll tell you that really? 1912 right. About 1912. Around in that era. My grandparents. Okay, and how many? So you have They have two children then when you live on that day, because you and Milka was born. No, no, no. All right. Just the two of you.

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My sister born

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and raised Christmas

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one by

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one, Japanese houses.

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Next door together. Front Door House.

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They all lived in long houses. No, no. Mindset first house.

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Five house Japanese and my shooting tend to they need to open them up.

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Okay. Okay, mom. Girl Who were the family Okeanos Kumasi, O'Connell family and they had two children. Okay. If you just put kale can or you know. And then the next family there was negative

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neighbors need done.

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Right. No, you don't. The first time we mentioned

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any goal

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was oh, she doesn't remember. And then who else might

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have children? They had children.

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Not yet. Right. So you mean Mr. Nagla? Didn't have a wife then? It was just himself. Yeah.

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Okay. That was more like a boarding my at your place.

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Also, he wasn't in a separate house.

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Do you have a house? No, no. Well, he was boarding with old kennels. And then who else had a house About the ad

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like Canada so that Mr. Mrs

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I knew that she in this rifle know

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the message of Mr. Mrs if they had a house and then who else man

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I got doing Mr. Mr. Mrs. So Mr. Mrs

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yeah but you don't remember their father's name you don't know

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that keep keep keep who

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yeah names okay my father's name was KIKUK you no

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mark me know he knows

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keep cool nurses

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can you no oh

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yeah keep cool

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cool no suka okay you're gonna do and I typed this up correctly because I'm sure I'll make some mistakes

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and then you have to wait right and then did you have any kids then

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that's called My

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mum was a little events and then who that's how many how many do you have

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I have three yeah have your cows the adoption Academy why

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cameo can No no no

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Karina Sookie even confusing view all these American me okay show me a fairly common name yeah

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my husband lawyers family okay mom

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and got what you said there were five houses?

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Yeah by me

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so for us too

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if I get if he remember though, let you know.

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Okay. And this is in 1912.

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Yeah, about making property making. I wonder if these people would show up on a census. Yeah. Just a minute now. I don't want to say really bothered about Japanese. There was someone

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in the early 1891 I think it shows five, five Japanese, or one Japanese one Japanese.

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How did you get that?

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Well, I got it from Sumatra, but she must have dried it from the archives. The Archives of Victoria Victoria. I can show it to

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have the name.

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No, wait. Yes. Wait a minute. Now it might have the name I have to check. Might have the name I'm not sure. I think it does have the name. Yeah. Yeah, I can look I can call you up

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and tell you okay, because it could be the salad out

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of these families that buried

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in the forest. Oh,

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that'd be interesting. Yeah, I'll talk I'll check because I think

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they were one of it. I think that man said they were here before other Japanese

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was interesting because they were We were five Chinese. There's only one Japanese fried Chinese world cook must have been in I think they must have been in the current in the camps and the worst camp they have maybe

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one Chinese Bizible you is a NEMA tidy and you want to

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get by another source. And then what did I say about my grandfather?

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Who said that he came to Canada in 1896? They were fishers. 1912 He lived in that band or a private private houses altogether. Japanese house, whether other houses tomorrows or just Japanese right, that's where I

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am. Yeah.

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She's got a property

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right now. So

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differently, pretty expensive

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projects, especially

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the one that experimented with all those people doing it. They got doing movie interviewing.

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So she has a script. I thought that script for the war between us was really good.

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Yeah, I'm glad that story was because

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yeah, that was what happened. Yeah.

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Enough to Know. Yeah.

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But anyway, that

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might be

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listening. Oh, yeah. I was looking at it before.

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So anyway, the archives. Yeah. We're actually the archives. Just that picture from all.

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You would agree to have that photo, permanently ensconced in the Ottawa archives. This is a pocket.

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Yeah. This is a photograph.

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Yeah, it's a huge break.

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Now is Barbara Woodley.

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any relation to Dr. Woodley? Yeah, that's a brother. That's her brother.

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And then her parents like her dad was the principal.

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Yeah. And her mother was secretary.

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Yeah

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I remember reading something about her photographs a while ago but I I don't think I saw it. It was a show me something. But I think I missed it.

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That's a great point.

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All right.

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The next day may or may. Or dish people over there. They choice my features

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is that your parents up there? Yeah.

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The same people?

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Are all your pictures, all your pictures post or some of them? Some of them have people working and doing the things? Like your family pictures?

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Oh, no, no, no, there's lots of casual pics. Yeah.

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JaVonni Orleans, like it was the sort of sort of good football practice

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what are you going to do?

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What am I going to do?

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What are you going to do? You're

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gonna get some word on paper. Yeah. Most of my information in my computer at home.

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You've sort of got like, all these kinds of things. So a document. Yeah, I've got it all. So is this on your computer? No.

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Yeah, most of it. But then after living with mom for the last year, I've got more or it all written down on those. Every day I get new instruments. I

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keep thinking I should do that with my parents, but I don't do it.

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Every day she gives me new information. Yeah, so I'm busy right yeah

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I was talking to Bob Eckerman the other day and I said Bob, what are you going to do with your museum when you go to the Happy hunting grounds? And he said I don't plan to go so I think that's just like my thoughts for the

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past year I don't know

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don't ask me strong strong people

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okay, now where did I go? That day right

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that's what you're going to tell me about. This was a 1912

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pre 1912 pre

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pre 19 pre 19 So how long did they live there before and you said something about going to Japan

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Yeah, how long did you live there not not very long but I mean they built the house there for a little while

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maybe a year or two years maybe a couple of the system was born

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day by

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day and aged

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Family Harmony sisters and brothers

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I get the 123342 big thing

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that you work on on the family

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that actually worked on the

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compiler for Vancouver

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and this grandmother was pretty old a mother

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kind of woman

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you know

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I always think about you thought you're talking about your mother who left you

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know well anyway.

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Right Why did she leave just couldn't cope with

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no because a lot of Japanese people were doing this you know sending their kids to educators.

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She left she left there to be educated Yeah. Oh I see

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that she hated every minute of it. Even today

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so when when when you came back from from Japan 1919. Would you have had finished school at that point

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yeah

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I finished high school.

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He was able to get into high school

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when he came back then where did you go to school here and

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where did you come back?

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No, I wanted to come back. And I grabbed

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the wrong crop crafting and thanking thanking Murphy 19 Right yeah, of course that was crafted. So you you would only have been in school and for did you go to school here on

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it alive, good.

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The chicken the chicken house.

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But they just had an elementary school

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or whatnot. They had A Lot went on school. Yeah, yeah. But would it have gone up? I don't know where she went because she had to learn English all over again. Difficult for her. I mean, she knew all the subjects subject matter was nothing. You just have to learn English over again you know

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it must have been hard in crops and then if you were in high school yeah learning

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my mother in law she always used to say that. I took her into what one year she was. She was wanting to know what she should do and when she had and so I took her to my accountant in Toronto. She was she lived in Thunder Bay. And she said I I really don't know very much she said Don't try to fool me. He said you're taking care of all your children five children with our husband died quite quite young. And you have you've taken and you've worked all those years you're pretty smart

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yeah

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so so then went to Central

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remember your teacher's name? Yeah, Miss. Miss jive. It came in from

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Miss drives. They that would have been Baker mints. And because Bobby from his mother

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they do.

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Yeah, that's right. My mother's very androids. Jazz Indian name as well. A

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baby's good friend. You always come down to.

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So there were quite a few people back then. Who are quite a few men on Saltspring. who married Indian Indian women. How did you have anything to do with what you did with this woman? Yeah. That's what I mean. Yeah. Guys, like, guys. Yeah. We already did a lot of a lot of inter inter marriage. I didn't do all that. I have some family trees. Do you remember? Did you ever do a family tree?

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See, actually, we've got on my father's side. You know, like he, his lines start from the Seventh Son of the 62nd Emperor of Japan. And I thought this whole thing right from the beginning. Sort of telling you, yes. So I have to get my grandchildren in Japan,

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like somewhere in Japan where they do

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calligraphy. So anyway,

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my husband's family

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my dad was brought up in a very privileged household because there was so wealthy landowners and they have lots of people working.

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Why did they come to

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my father? He married my mom.

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Oh, so when? When you came back 15 You're already married? No.

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She went back to Japan. We're back again. To celebrate her grandmother's 80th birthday.

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Oh, I see. So when

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she got married in 1926

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When he married, he married you That's when he came. That's why he came to Canada

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came as an indentured immigrant you know, like they have to be fostered and my grandparents my mother's parents sponsored and there was never

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any question of us staying in Japan didn't want to change

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he didn't I mean, he was keen about coming here he was happy to come

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to Canada so like you know, he came from a very orderly society where everything was orderly and then he was telling me that when he came off the boat and was brought through the forest right into the forest I just wondered what kind of hell I was

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and where did where did you live where we were on chaperone

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so you live lived with your parents for five years

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my dad didn't have to work for them for five years he only had to work for them three years

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Ray mix today is

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also on sharper so that would would that be at the end of sharp room

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during the picture

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that was their 60th wedding anniversary.

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I've seen that picture before. For some reason, I thought that

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my dad looked

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at the picture in the paper a couple of years ago. Your 60th anniversary? Yeah, it was because I remember

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when my dad like yeah, he looks like Clark Gable. Oh,

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I think he was also picture in that video.

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Oh yeah. Because it took five years to make that because he lost funding from the National Film boy

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it's quite a good video action

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film I have in my basement that you can use boxes and boxes and reels and collectibles. But I don't have

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it so what is it 16

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I don't know what it is. But anyway, she has to take it to a professional

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you can you could probably get me into video. That would be the easy thing.

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For me it's miles and miles.

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Probably wouldn't be worth it. So so even

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but you know my grandparents had 200 acre

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property we talked about between sharp and

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all the way up past rainbow roads

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they have a greenhouse.

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They have a grievance. Yeah, they had a green mania.

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There's one that you could drive into. It was so big.

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Well, these were big. Yeah, I've got pictures of those greenhouses. Oh dear. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Actually, is no one in there. I mean, that was the first one. But more were added to it. I have a feeling Going there

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oh I did Billy ever live on Saltspring Yeah,

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this is me this is me oh here's your first major

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Yeah but that's just one of them

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anymore which is about 1930 governent was

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when the first part was done but they added more to it

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that's where the picture came from so this wasn't the one you're talking about it was the one you're talking about was bigger I guess

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that added more to that I think yeah, yeah. Yeah

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so just mainly print Tomato, tomato, cucumber or just

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we send to Vancouver.

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And do anybody else have any other Japanese have may

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lived between but they had a greenhouse your academy

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greenhouses smaller than

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it was, was it also tomato

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non Japanese people have purely a Japanese

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good the white people have greenhouses to these you were referred by

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Richard Hall, but maybe it'd be Richard hall

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or Maine or Ireland

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most of our greenhouses before the war were Japanese greenhouse.

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I hadn't seen any obstructions the first time I noticed that it was yeah How big was

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998 98 by

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over 100 100 and 180 900

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Did you have a greenhouse as well? Did you do any farming? Yeah.

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She ate she ate things strawberry

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waterborne

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acres of strawberries, strawberries,

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especially when you have to clear the forest forest. Because I remember dad using blasting caps to get rid of the stumps then burning them a lot of work.

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To do you have to cut the trees down first. Oh,

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yeah. That thing that

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actually I was listening to one tape last night. And they sit and I guess was Barbie talking into that before they before they use the big saws. They used to cut them down and take them down. drill hole and then they put charcoal in them. Maybe that's why a lot of the trees have

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been marked. Maybe.

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I never I never heard that before.

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Then no Budo

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My My grandparents had tomatoes plus they had raspberries and strawberries did they sell vegetables? sell vegetables No no no but vegetables yeah I think a little bit of vegetables

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but you sold raspberries and strawberries

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to a company called AP slave it's aware wholesale

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AP slaves

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you so you're probably used to the same point

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I am number one

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well they always waited for the number fours to come in they were they were number number four and so they always used to wait

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for my very but many good friends no you can't touch

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the Emperor Sotelo for number four

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is that what's your number number four

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day to day and all kinds of bills and what did you marry me

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Empress hotels is to take care of

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we have a good name

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so that your main source of income for me

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Craig's Yeah 3000 chickens for the eggs were they also sold too often

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optimized anybody in your Steven greater than like every race just bread

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if they were greeted by a fellow named Steven what was his first name but they used to live on that road. Just in front of

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Central Church

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not that road in front of in front of the tennis court there

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okay. So

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more must have sold the eggs because there's so more it's kind of activism distributed.

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Yeah. They did the grading and

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produced all the chicks because she has intubated today the

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drought what?

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My mom

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produced all the chicks because she has incubated three incubators

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throughout what period of time with discipline

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you moved out Nike 3232 32 to fulfill this time. 32 to 40 actually hits the end of 4041 because we weren't allowed to touch our crops.

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So you moved out from your parents place and 3232

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brand new house How

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to that to that 17 acre piece that you?

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Was that also about

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ranking 3419 32

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Are you making 32

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Did you build your house right away as soon as you bought

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well I think yeah yeah. Because they have to move How long have you it didn't take very

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long to build again

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how long did it take

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nobody else daddy

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it's amazing you know because you because you know he came from a family where he didn't have to do anything where all of a sudden he has to be creative and become a carpenter Fisher

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didn't know how to do anything good

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like a very very nice person very quiet

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very strong very strong very dignified was acquired not really like when we went when we have to go he was the center of attention

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he was even boss your

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dad wasn't a dad in a strong way have a do things what he wants to do. And he was also gentle because he is to really give us how are you

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even doing like spanking and things and he would say don't matter what you do with them they'll grow up to be good don't be hard on your life ask

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me what we can do this you know that yes, me then he never did contact me

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we always come to an opinion about something and never we would never do

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he broke he broke it down himself.

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That wasn't the only house he built lots of bills.

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So how do you learn the skills on the job

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they're all kicking her house

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when when he built the house in 1982 I guess your father pretty old

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32.

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Your When was your husband born?

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My dad made 2618 99?

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My grandfather was born in 1872. So what were you asking? For we would have been about 16 Don't say that?

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No, ignore, but I was just wondering how much how people would have without billing. I guess he could have been quite a bit of help.

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Well, he shouldn't be able to happen. 60 Yeah.

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But don't you think people are younger today? Because I mean, life isn't quite I mean, you didn't have to. You don't have to cut down those big trees and blast away the stuff.

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You didn't you weren't battering your body? No, you're not doing eating better

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foods. Yeah. My father's for

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he doesn't look at before

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so I don't know. Seems like people are healthier and younger. They

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don't have to do that. But My poor mom you know if you only knew how much work she's done. It's a wonder she still could walk around.

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When did he die? Your grandfather?

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My grandpa died November the fifth 1949 In Cardston, Alberta, Alberta. We couldn't because we weren't allowed

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back come back after the war couldn't come back after the war.

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We couldn't come back until 1419 49

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What about your

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my grandmother? She was born February 19 1878. And she died here on Saltspring April the seventh 1967.

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Thank you