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Accession Number Interviewer Sue Mouat
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ID 104 Duration 27 min.




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You know what boat Do you remember any idea will be the CPR boat.

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I'm sure there was a connection between salts. It could have been the otter, it could have been

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Queen cities.

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I came over very young I was I came over in October, the end of October. And I said I was 17, then, and I would be 18 on the 17th of November. But I was only 60.

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And they didn't ask for a birth certificate.

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Oh, no. I found that. Good. I feel that from getting asked if I could come as a probation because I'd seen the end.

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Oh, there have been an ad in the Victoria paper or sentiment? I

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can't answer those questions. No, I can tell you. It might have been my sister in law flow. bellhouse. I know that when I was unhappy at home, you see mother had died. And Father had remarried which was as my son tells me a very natural thing here. His youngest child was barely six. When mother died five and a half

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had this family and my sister eldest sister. Because she didn't she didn't

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put that big kitty,

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Peggy. Oh, yeah. But she died later on. And kitty got married. The same year after Kingsman and David and Tony were in services. And Father madness, who of course upset me terribly. I thought it was dreadful. I couldn't see any good talk because I was too young. But I was not 53 years old. So anyway, I'm sure it was my new system of political life. Flow met my brother David, who said why don't you try

Unknown Speaker 2:34
nursing. It's a good life. And so that's what I started looking around and some revisions here.

Unknown Speaker 2:47
It didn't last very long, though. Did it? The one year was enough. No, but I mean, it didn't last long that they kept taking probationers Oh, no, they just made it to you. But they did they take any more after you, you know, Oh, it didn't work that well.

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No, that didn't work at all. Because there was one graduate for day and night duty. And I can't remember her name, but that was Mrs. Fortin. It would have been persistable

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always she wasn't the matron though. She wasn't me. Oh, she was the matron. And she was sort of on call. 24 hours.

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Well, the thing is, there was six bit

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Oh, this was before the ring would had been built on. Was it. The rich. There's two wards at the end that were built a little later.

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Yes. Well, I'm sure you had different very different. Before I came, I it seemed to me that was a relation with a craft and

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in this. Yeah, he married Frank craft. Yeah, she was and she probably managed the whole thing by herself. She had a male orderly and returned servicemen. Oh with her. And I think he did a lot of the property the men's work.

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Yes. Because it was a lot of things. So do you have to get this going beyond the woods to help the cook in the kitchen?

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While nursing was harder work than two because you remember used to do hot compresses and full mints and things like that. Where a lot you know, we had to be done every four hours or so. Yeah.

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There wasn't that much sickness. I noticed first patient I have to watch this but but oh man from Tinder, his struggles old age running attempts or anything like that.

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Did you get to any operations at all in those days?

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Yes. This is the other extreme. I would help with Tom's Vegas coming. I think I brought in Daisy cares physically,

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Oh, for goodness sake.

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I haven't gotten in touch with it yet

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I can't remember the time I flew was wrong 99 And I can't remember flu. I remember when I think Dr. Sutherland told me that there was a case for a disability. I can't remember

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two of them McFadden, and I think it was McFadden's died. But I think they probably couldn't take them in the hospital. They stayed at home. Yes.

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I can rely remember patient Hepburn. Oh, really? Yeah. And I thought it was pretty nice. Falling in love with my patients.

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He married one of the school teachers. Miss Grove, who's still he's lives in Brinkworth. He now has a separate Alia

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for this family that I do remember that name talking to you again. But I can't remember the names except the brochure. Wm. Ow. M Yes, but I mean, J She was so good to us. The other girl was watts. And any river always welcomed anytime you bet that you felt lonely and have dinner with them at night. This was lovely. And she had lucid Nico was with Williams is in the house doing

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it unless you had so many people over the years. I know that Uncle Gilbert had Mr. Gwynn to help move him because he had polio. Yes, so old Mr. Green and black and he lived up there. But likely the various women's girls didn't work there. And quite a few of the people from Beaver point did so they could come to school, or really over the years. I think one of the monk girls was there one time. Probably Probably Fraser's Lotus ruffles sister

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the noise for very good to me. The real skirts were very good to me.

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Did you have days off or weekends? Overtime? Did you ever get a chance to go to any dances or anything? Mm hmm. Yes,

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indeed I did. I had a fancy dress. In the hay barn. Phyllis says she had been given an old dress that belonged to the incredibly and Phyllis, Phyllis, my sister and I think she by sister Phyllis will be 85 Tomorrow gave her a call.

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Where does she live?

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No. She moved out there because so many of the children working in the forestry working in

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place but they grow flowers.

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Let's get married name

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donkus your turn know that name?

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Well sit dunkers we used to be here

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no that was oh, and all the boys this gym but I build an industry in Canada.

Unknown Speaker 9:17
Now the call center place? Yes. But did the Do you remember the matron was when you were here? What did she give you any lectures as well as Dr. Sol was

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helping us about how to do it from a teacher. She taught us everything we needed to do.

Unknown Speaker 9:38
Where did you find when you got to that you believe that? You are on the same level as the girls.

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As I say, if I had been older, supposing I think 20 Instead,

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you would have gotten done the whole thing there. I would have said

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but you know life is so short. I want you want a little bit in the army and say Soldiers Yeah, so I I passed the exam and I got my arm but just just

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barely gonna have your teeth Yeah Did you ever work out?

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Yes I did

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we're in Victoria

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the brain is really good. So they'll do the best it can now that I got better at 1926 and I had my first baby and 26 it goes because I was not able to my back

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and I was in a nursing home so they couldn't do any operation 50 hours the database and it was very alive and we started so then I went home the farm and my in laws were very sorry, very nicely. But this was the beginning of the question.

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And though we had found there was no money to buy the flour and the

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sugar, sugar tobacco, which happened to be a necessity so I began to think that I should go in and do some nursing and I don't know how I got ahold of the Columbia coach mission

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may Roadmaster they had a they had and so I went there about 1928 nearly 29 and Herbert had someone to help build something and he came up with logging in place so he's doing

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so he loved the readout by the region family love when he had a bath when they had a bath on Saturday night and when he slept

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well where was it was this rock me

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rock rock it was a village there that conduct the Columbia mission would come in

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on the mainland Vancouver on amiano What north of Alert Bay or Oh, I could look it up. I think you can look at Oh are you today when? No. But did you nurse a tall Did you work between the time you got your RN before you married? Where we're in Victoria at the Jubilee

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in Victoria specializes in going out. And we're confident in our hospitals. Yeah,

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I was born there. What are you 1923 Oh,

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realize for 10 years later I was up before I was married.

Unknown Speaker 14:02
Well, that was in 1923. I was born there after I was founded. No, you want to know before? Doesn't matter. I need to I just wondered. So I

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work. I graduated in 1921. That's what I thought. And then I noticed in Victoria and I went up to come to London that I've never went up there after I was born. And then I went back to Victoria and then I went over to the USA and I went to Seattle and they had they wanted someone Anacortes so I thought that

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so I went to Anacortes and worked in the hospital. I was it about a year. And I didn't seem to have time in Bellingham to

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maybe, I don't know. Anyway, I lost in the states not very happy thing that I noticed after I was

Unknown Speaker 15:32
1924 and I was there for over a year. And my brother, Galliano was joining the house into a hotel. And he brought, he and my stepmother wrote, by the way, by this time I realized that stepmom was somebody special. Oh, very nice. How good she was kittehs system. I am. You're a bit complicated, but she was really a very good friend. And I happily went there to help my brother. Run this

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coming from Vancouver, they loved him. Can you imagine living down it's pure

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Neons are so lovely.

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So I finished

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Did you ever run into miss Grace mode when you were specially in Victoria? She had been the head of the training school at the Jubilee in 1892. Oh, and ran afoul of the doctors because she felt they weren't clean enough. So she went for the specialist and private nursing for many years in Victoria which probably I think she was mostly doing maternity work but when people had their babies at home

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no I tell you who might know

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is a dear friend we had on the island of mother

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not to worry. Oh come on this island you mean or Vancouver Island?

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Edna Rossiter

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I'll find it

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Thank you. Did you stay with Columbia Coast mission very long or

Unknown Speaker 18:10
yes I preserved for years so David was in August of 1930 so I can't have been up there for very long No, no, I must have gotten back in 29

Unknown Speaker 18:33
Oh, did you ever nurse after you had children?

Unknown Speaker 18:36
Yes. I had to during the Depression never forget a stint hunting for work logging is nothing tender web landed latest and I David Jackman status and I worked at the hospital when they did which was crazy because job man was supposed to be heavily loaded and the when he got paid for his work so that's all well then I went down said the brothers and I love the his his three sisters Ali. Agnes and we're living just outside So I'm out of the island and they would come down

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helping us

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to live could you not have gone back to the island but there was no work I suppose.

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Yeah, no, I didn't want to leave no boys when he then he joined up

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when the Second World War, the Second World War the Second World War was a lifesaver for many people.

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I wish I could think of some some way of running a country without making money out of war. I mean to say why do they wait for a vote or why they can get money for a wall like I'm gonna get started Do you know Nellie McClung books?

Unknown Speaker 21:09
Oh yeah, I remember meeting her once.

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We were talking about her today because Elsie Murphy was here. I like a nice person. She's running for the NDP and she and I just thought we talked about Sylvia Pankhurst Mellon, Canadian Soviet backers, she goes from

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She lived she moved to be said and

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I'm not sure I was quite small she when she came. But my mother said this is a woman you should know my dear. So off we went.

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Live so

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my name was Greg. And my parents both

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she it? She had her room. Right. Yeah, the kitchen right in the middle of the of the corridor whether she had one batch, that side or another batch this side of center.

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And she would know. She was like and he needed south. I don't really know what happened to people who have a

Unknown Speaker 22:56
probably a lot of them happened at home too.

Unknown Speaker 22:58
Yes. What is it? What is information for them? It's because I feel so often that the natural nurses who maybe they can't speak Latin, but they're just naturally nurses, and then the price.

Unknown Speaker 23:20
That's right. Not too much too much emphasis on exams

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and learning and education. I can't get the right words. But I can remember saying to Dr. Banker I'll never be a nurse because I can't speak. All I can do is make a cup of tea. And you know the damming saved many lives being saved by

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that doctor, right? Oh, he married a Saltspring girl. Yes,

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he did.

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That's right. Did you know her?

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Oh, I knew I used to stay in Victoria.

Unknown Speaker 24:04
She was married. When? When you were here?

Unknown Speaker 24:08
Yeah. Yes, but her mother used to come that's another person. But Mary, my brother for me. came and worked on this early and he and many but good friend. And I can remember because he wrote all the way down to go all the way back. Not in one day. And she came to see me on it little bay Angelia. Such a nice person. And of course she had a magnificent home. Being a doctor's wife.

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Did they have children? Oh, oh good.

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They have children. They have a son

Unknown Speaker 25:09
Oh no, but I can put them down. It'd be in the phonebook a bit.

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Jane Corellas is the daughter of Peggy McIntosh, Peggy McIntosh and J N. Many Right? Great friends.

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Call Mrs. McIntosh is still alive, isn't she? Yes, she is and Sydney

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and Jane her daughter has bought just bought a home she just bought a home and they've been

Unknown Speaker 25:51
good you know there's a couple here now Mr. Mrs. Do West that he is a nephew of Dr. Sutherlands I believe.

Unknown Speaker 25:58
No, I didn't.

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I haven't tracked him down. I just heard about him. But I will certainly

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talk to some of those nephew. And his name is

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D West. Small he didn't have any children. No as a nephew has either a brother or sisters job. Or grandchild, I suppose.

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The West

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now whether that was her maiden name, I don't know. Do you list Dr. Sutherlands maiden name. She was devoted to us because I don't know he wasn't very well was he

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know she was looked after? Because I think that's why they came to Saltspring remind you of that woman used to get in the islands.

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She looked at my planner. Oh, she did all the islands did she? Yes. Was there a doctor Fraser on Pender?

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Yes. But I didn't know Pender knows didn't

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know because I think he used to be three days Penders three days here

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and has often had doctors and doctors living like this. Something that comforting not to remember, and that doesn't matter anyway. Anyway, I think I have tired