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The Maxwell Family

Barb Lyngard, Chris Arnett, 12 April 2006

Barb Lyngard John Maxwell




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great to see everybody here. Today, I'm really pleased to

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welcome Barb Lind guard who's the only living descendants of the maxvill family on Saltspring. Island, although, as she'll introduce some other members of the family, and she will be talking about the maximal family

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was the John Maxwell and his wife, Mary and their children. And I'll be filling in little bits because my sort of interest is in their their land holdings, and some of the politics of the day so

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I'll be contributing a little bit, but mostly it's Barb Lingard. So and I'd like you to join me in welcoming Barb Lingard.

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Thank you, Chris.

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When Chris asked me to do this program last fall, I quickly sent out some notes and letters and emails to ask different Max was to come to the program, so that we would have a better representation. I would like to now to introduce the Maximals that did show up with the three stems. Danna,

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Pauline, and her Danis. Two boys, Michael and Kyle, are two grandsons.

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They're here to welcome to represent the Maxwells as well.

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Now, I must tell you that the information I gathered, I've gathered it from many sources.

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One is from my home one is from my memory.

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I have a lot from Jean barman because a couple of years ago, she sent me her research papers that she that

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I have looked at the Hamiltons book, and also Charles Khan's book, at the story of an island.

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This is a picture of John Maxwell.

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He was born in Belfast, Ireland in 1835.

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And this picture is a copy of the portrait that we have hanging in our living room today.

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You can't tell by the picture but he's red headed in a red beard.

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He is my great grandfather. Yes.

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Why did appointment this way? Okay, this is John Max was mother. She was in Ireland and she never got to Canada.

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Her name was Elizabeth. There's a lot of Elizabeth's in this family.

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This is John's sister. She is Elizabeth. And she communicated with John and he and his children and his grandchildren.

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especially now I'm going back to John but as he's already there.

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Okay, I have read somewhere that this person thought John came from an aristocratic family in Ireland. But doing my research, I don't think that he did. I think he came from a hard working, probably farming background.

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He left Ireland when he was 19 years old.

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And firstly headed to the United States.

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He lived in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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He did some time in the American army.

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And then he decided to head to dec California gold rush.

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According to his son, David, John walked across the plains to California. I thought it's getting a map presents quite a ways to walk but I didn't get that far.

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When in California, he heard at the Fraser River gold rush so he headed up to Canada.

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It was recorded that he was very successful with his finding gold in the Fraser River that I haven't heard how he made out in California.

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He had a partner, James Looney, who I have never seen a picture of. And I don't know if they came out from Ireland together or if they met somewhere along the way.

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While they were gold mining in the Fraser Valley, the Fraser River. They did not like the cold winters. And so they went and bought asleep from someone in broad inland. This is what David says, and sailed amongst the Gulf Islands.

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The really light Saltspring Island

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and decided to settle at the Burgoyne Bay Area.

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John preempted land.

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He had the first holding officially recorded in 1861.

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Now Chris Arnett is going to show you some maps of the old area and then preemption

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Thanks, I hope people can see this. This is sort of an early real estate map 1860 shows the couch and survey of 1859. This was a survey that was done, just as the Hudson's Bay Company charter was running out on the colony like Zx 1860. So the colony of Vancouver Island had only been in existence for about 11 years. So not not that long ago. And most of the colony was created through land sale agreements with different native tribes and families. But this area, there were no land sale agreements, they actually went in here before any agreements were made, and did most of the survey dirt while the native people are away at a herring fishery. So the survey ended in 1859. And I've gone and looked at the actual records of the survey and notebooks and there's records for all these lots were created in what is now you know, the couch area. And over here, you can see

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the lot surveyed in Burgoyne. And there's no record of that survey being done. But obviously, somebody's done a survey here. And

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just for a bit of background, that this time considered to be the Verbling area was known as clockwise, which is an Indian name, which means that place of the Mehrdad to die.

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the people that control this

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area, we're from a village in the Cowichan Delta called Club omelets. And this is where

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John Maxwell wife came from. So I guess we'll look at the next map.

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This is his preemption map of 1861. And this was John Maxwell's writing, registering his preemption in those days, you know, you can just sort of go out and claim your land, you just had to kind of make a little rough map and register your claim, and then you had a certain claim, the preemption process is sort of a three stage process, we registered your claim, then you had to improve it. And then when they were convinced that you would improve it, they would give you the opportunity to purchase the land. So this is the first step here. Obviously, it's found 30 Like they see it, they are gone is sort of some eccentric spelling in this

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letter. And but it's interesting here, started read but the vertical writing on

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the left here says, block one mountain, which is the Indian

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an English approximation of the Indian name for Virgo in a block one. Over here we have Toine Mountain, which is an English pronounce,

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approximation of the Indian name for Mount Ruth's mount twang, which was Swan, Queensland go straight down the ocean. So it's interesting, and he recognized the two Indian names and this may have had something to do with this.

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His marriage to marry or something, but anyway, he obviously

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made some negotiation with the native people who own the rights to this place, and they

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didn't obstruct his claim. Now, this wasn't true of his predecessors. He, he did this claim 1861 But there was a man here 1859 And James Shaw, who was basically run off his property, because he did not have any connection with the native people. So he wasn't able to hold on to his creation.

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There's two little cabins shown up here the bath

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400 acre, lots that he preempted with his partner, James lady, and between the two little creeks, you can see the studio cabins there and those may have belonged to the first

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man granted the Eric James saw

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one more math here.

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Here later on.

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This is for 1874, a survey done of the Burgoyne Valley showing you know the original lots were surveyed back in Boston at 59 and the maximum holding and the loonie holding. So let's see 12345 800 acres here

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that were preempted by the two gentlemen. And over the years, the Maxwell family added three properties and I decided we're going to leave in may have helped to build up to 1000 acres

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the greatest

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Standard holding.

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And this

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even though it's it's hard to really see masses name is here, those gains loonies name. loonies house is up here, and I think it's still there. It's up on the Montessori property. In the Montessori School, there is an old house up there that I think is St. Louis.

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The Maxwell House is down here. And it's no longer standing. It was torn down in the 30s and 40s by the people who purchased them left the property.

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And we I think that's it.

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Keep it come

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into this the detail join with soccer.

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Basketball submaximal here in smudges game.

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So to get an idea of Extended Property, the standard

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throw coming down here. Next time you get out there, but

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were more.

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This is

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this will keep sort of came a little later, but wanted to include this because it's a fascinating piece of history. This is a land clearing machine

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that they brought to the island in 1883. To clear the properties. Here you can just see this house. This is Richard Maxwell House, it still stands at the entrance to the Burgoyne a part. And this machine was quite made quite the impression in the province at that time was mentioned in The Times Hall and found the actual articles. I've seen them. But they haven't seen them lately, but it was quite a machine of the tractor scene driven tractor winches. And I've seen an old advertisement on this machine. And so a bunch of guys been taught that scaring while around these big reciprocal saws. So they had seen power saws of some sort. And I met a log in just three years ago who was really intrigued with this machine he felt there's still parts of it lying around in the bush and Saltspring at least hope they were you see some of these sort of hydraulic

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part of the mid winds but

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I'd like to find out exactly how these solids ran. But anyway, they use this machine to clear most of the land that we see today. In that part of burgling

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that part of the gurgling Valley

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No, they don't do that.

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Which Yeah, I don't know why

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this is already done by

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making a three out could be an easy place to take mounts.

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And also I think native people did a lot of clearing too because there's there's remnants of Gary a forest in here. So it may have been used as for countless native people to clear the land with a Fire Map. This shows

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a photo showing sort of the extent of the initial maximal holdings to create

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the original house was up here

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the property extended up to

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this whole valley of course, trees are starting to come back.

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We can do that.

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Next slide.

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Yeah, another shot. But it's an interesting part of assaults me because I

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still get a feel for what it was like 130 years ago.

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Another view Yeah, so his hope again, macro property would have gone from here all the way down to pretty well, the head of Burdwan Bay.

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Okay, we're gonna come back to John.

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Mary, or if common law with Mary gray.

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She was a native from the collagen

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I don't know how they met. But John was establishing his farm on native lands. So they probably meant there.

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I have been searching and searching for a picture

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there I've been searching for a picture married for quite a few years. I had never seen one.

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And this picture was taken at the St. Paul's Catholic Church and culverts around 1885 According to Bob as

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he claims it

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Today the consecration of the church.

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And thanks to Bob Aikman for allowing the archives to have a copy of this picture.

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This picture was enlarged for the Historical Society's presentation. Last fall, I believe it was they had this three fall for churches.

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And Chris Barnett was looking at this particular photo very thoroughly. And he thought that Mary maxvill would be there because she's talented. She was counted, right? And then John Maxwell wouldn't be there because he helped build the church.

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I guess maybe take a look at it. And when I finally did put it up on my computer, I do believe that very Maxwell is in this picture.

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I not only spotted the lady who I believe is Mary Maxwell. She is standing beside Susanna triggy Who is my other great grandmother.

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And not only that behind Suzanna is this man with holding his hat is Theodore triggy. And the man was the hat on and the beard is John Maxwell. I believe them to be that so fortunate all four of them are standing in one spot.

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Okay, this picture is in B Hamilton's book, but and it was printed in 1969 it but I had never looked at it 32 All the time, I had a picture of Mary Maxim and didn't know what

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she was very young when she had her first child. She was considerably younger than John.

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Okay, now we're going to go on to Oh, there's the farm. But I think I missed something here. I'm going to just go back here.

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Oh, I just want to talk some more about Mary. I don't I know very little about her. But

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I do know that I came to the conclusion that she was very kind because having such a large family and so much, far more to do. She had to hide a slave or a hide to help or maybe we could call her. And when she was off this helper was allowed her release, she chose to stay on with the Maxwells.

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Some historians say that Mary and Susanna tricky were sisters. However, since these printings came out, I have found Mary's last name to be married gray. Her last name is gray, and Suzanne, his last name was George.

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Mary great definitely came from the George family, as she's buried at the Georgetown grave site in Duncan. So she could be a cousin of Susanna.

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Now if we go to the farm,

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there's the farm. This is K Katlin painting. If some of you remember k Catlin. She painted this years ago. And we're very fortunate to have this painting because the original picture got long.

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When James when John Maxwell and James Looney arrived, they cleared land. And because they had decided to raise beef cattle.

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They purchased their cattle from Oregon, shipped the cattle to Victoria, brought them over the gold stream trail to couch and Bay and then barge them across the Burgoyne Bay. And then the cattle had to swim mom

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leaving the barge to the beach.

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According to a local historian, and this is quotes from about 1861 maxvill and his partner James Looney had carved out and cleared a series of lovely meadows and pastures. You can see this is probably their Orchard Park. They imported Texas Longhorns of fine quality, and his main ambition was to provide the finest steaks and roasts in the colony.

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They experienced problems with cattle rustlers and lost considerable income.

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By 1866, the market for Victoria wanted 20 or more cattle per month.

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But due to cattle rustling they could only supply five.

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Maxwell had requested support from the government many many times but without success.

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He talked to the editor of the Victoria colonists, and an editorial was written outlining the problem and saying that maximum warns that the patients of the central settlers is so sorely tried that however law abiding they may be excused for taking matters into their own hands. And that's what they had to do. With a group of volunteers and with strategic planning. They were successful in catching the fees.

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However, the price of cattle had dropped due to the new sorts of beef coming in to Victoria from Oregon. But it was built up again by 1872. The max loonies were supplying 20 had an

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Once again, Victoria

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now I'm gonna try the next one. Okay, here we aren't, because they had to get their livestock and produce off to Victoria. And there was no landing facilities at the south end maxvill And then he decided a loading wharf was needed.

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In 1869, Maxwell offered three acres of his waterfront land for wharfing purposes, providing the government with granted a group of Trustees for the mutual benefit of the Southerners.

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It was approved, and the trustees were named Thomas Williams, John Maxwell, and Frederick Forge.

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Now is there certainly not three acres designated to the wharf area down there now? I have often wondered where the land disappeared.

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This he was donated to the archives by Joe Aikman.

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Now, I'm still thinking Mary with your maps in the archives, maybe we could find out where that land disappeared. I had tried once, but it cost me $120 And I got no worse. It cost so much at the land registry.

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As well as Texas Longhorns. They had orchards, lambs, chickens, pigs, plus a kitchen garden for their own vegetables. In 1874, according to Ashdown greens report, Maxwell had 100 cattle and 30 pigs. And I think when I mentioned Max, and I think they may really mean Max Alam Looney

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according to Eric E. Roberts, this from the Saltspring Saget and I'm going to quote this. This is he's describing Maxwell. contemporary accounts show John maxvill. To have been a man a few words, and some alleged him to be morose and dour.

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He was referred to as a stubborn and pigheaded

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maybe some other Max was reduced to that to

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others and he was afraid to take physical action to protect his property and was a coward. His higher tampers held him in the greatest regard. His actions reveal him to have been a man of considerable personal courage and strong character.

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no, let's go back when there should be a farm here.

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Okay, something's out of order.

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We want the picture of Richard in the mound maximum.

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Oh, maybe it got lost.

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Note that Sam you

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know, we want to go back Frank.

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Okay, let's go back one more. Okay, got lost. Anyhow, there's a picture that somehow got lost that maybe it's out of order. It was taken an 1885 and Richard is sitting in a horse and buggy sitting in the buggy with a horse and John is standing by the fence. And this was a copy of that picture that Lotus ruffled donated.

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Okay, now we want John Maxwell's grave.

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That's it. John Maxwell died in August 23 1897. He was quite a young man. He was first buried at his farm, and later his body was moved to St. Mary's Anglican church. His grave marker is the one on the right on your right side. And his son John is also on the same marker. The gravestone on the left of John's is for James Looney. He died in 1912. And I think probably around 1912 Maybe John Max was about body was moved because they're very side by side.

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Okay, now we want the next one face right.

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After John's death, Mary had made the decision to return to dunk into the reservation.

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And she was married very young, and maybe she just wanted to like have her own. We don't know why she moved.

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She used to paddle across in her canoe to visit her son Richard. He lived right after going Bay. And especially she came when Mary her daughter was visiting from San Francisco.

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At Mary John's wife died in January the 13th 1914. And she's buried at the Georgetown gravesite in Duncan. There's a lot of Elizabeth's in the Maxwell family and there's a lot of Mary's

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Okay, now I'm going to start going to Mary and John's children. They had four boys. No, they had five boys and two girls.

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Their first child was named John. He was born in 1864.

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We I had never seen a picture of him. I don't know of anyone that has one. But my mother said that he was extremely smart, and that he had wanted to be a schoolteacher. He died September.

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The fourth 1887 and is buried with his dad at St. Mary's Church.

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This is Samuel Maxwell. He was born November 6 1865.

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And I have someone Samuel in Canada but he moved to San Francisco. There was a need for the post office in the south end of Salt Spring.

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And in 1881, was established in the Maxwell home. It was run by Samuel Samuel, and later by his sister Eliza.

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Samuel left Saltspring and went to live in San Francisco.

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He married Gripton Amanda Vaughan Krueger, August the 11th at 97 and they lived in San Francisco

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in 1924. Because of marriage difficulties, Samuel left his wife and family and moved back to Salt Springs and lives with his brother Richard.

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They died April 25 1928. He's buried at St. Mary's Church.

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There Don Samuels daughter Mary had told my mother that

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Samuels wife Gretchen was in the process of sending back sending word for Samuel to please return back home, but she then heard it was too late. She heard that he had died.

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Okay, we want to go to Samuel his wife.

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Okay, this is a picture of Samuel and his wife Gretchen Samuel B on your right. Samuel is holding their first son John.

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And down here is Mary Samuel sister and her husband and Tom Van Berg. And they're holding they're holding their first child Annie.

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Okay, the next one, please.

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This is Samuels. Wife is she's older. And grandson in this picture. She's holding her great grandson, Michael Keller, her. Michael Keller her tried very hard to be here today. He's author he lives in the Washington States but fortunately, he couldn't make it.

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Grandson died 1952.

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Now I'm going to go on to Samuel and Gretchen's children. The first child was John.

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This is John and Terrence is a young one and John is the taller one.

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They are standing in front of their Aunt Mary's house. This was just after the 1906 earthquake in San Francisco.

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And as Samuel and family lived down in the downtown area, that's where the the earthquake really hit and all the buildings collapsed and the fires quickly started.

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Parents said that in about three hours after the quake all the area where they have lived was just a heap of ashes.

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And drawn the eldest son was born in 1899. And he died 1942 in an automobile crash in San Francisco.

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Here's Terrance they had to do their military training in the US. And Terrance was born January the fourth 1901. In this picture, he was aboard that steamship, California.

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Next one is Mona, his sister born 1903.

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And the next one is Vivian 1905.

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And the next one is Mary Mary and Martha maxvill. Born 1908. And Mary was the only child of Samuel and Gretchen's to have a child of her own. And thus we still have the Maxwells on Samuel side of the family.

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And that's Michael Kelleher, his grandmother.

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This is Richard, we hear about Richard and his family Burgoyne. He was born in 1867.

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I thought that he had remained on Saltspring all of his life, but I have just reread a letter that James wrote many years ago. And he says that thoughts they weren't he was not on Saltspring for a short while.

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Richard never had children

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to his neck.

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This is Richard's wife, Emily Sparrow. Emily was first married to Alfred Douglas.

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And quite a while after his death, she married Richard.

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Emily was the first president of the Women's Institute that's appropriate branch founded in 1920.

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And she was remembered for playing the mandolin in an informal orchestra for dances with Leon King, and Mrs. Alfred Rocco.

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is it this oh, this is the one oh, this is this is the one I thought before this is my Mac. So this is actually on John's farm. That

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Some Richard with his horses in the buggy and that's John standing by the fence

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as by their barn.

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Okay, let's see what the next one is. Okay, this is Richards farm. It's up more

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up towards them over Ganges road. That's the house and still there has been gone. I guess Barnes gone

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okay the next one this is you can't really see him but this is Richard he worked for the road. This is picture was taken in 1886.

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Okay, and then the next one is a close up of Richard's house on Burgoyne row.

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Okay, now we're going to go to David.

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David was my great grandfather so you'll get more detail on him. He was born May 11 1873. And he married Clara Paulina, many Trekkie.

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David worked on the sealing boats. And he said that when they were off, sealing sealing off of Russia, that they had to be very careful as the Russians used to capture the sealers and hold them for ransom.

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He was a fisherman and he was a logger. Local he was known for his water wishing he could doused for water, find it and know exactly how deep one had to go to get the water.

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He was studying for his marine engineers ticket in 1921. But he never completed it.

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Now this is going back in time in 1897. David had cut his leg was an axe and was beating to death.

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Dr. Baker jumped on a skittish mayor and made record time to fall for it. The mayor had cast a shoe on the way splitter hoof badly and was never the same again. But he saved David's life. The mayor belongs to Edward Cartwright

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This is the picture of my grandparents 60th wedding anniversary. They were married April 3 1901. This picture was taken April 3 1961.

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Clara was the daughter of Theodore and Susanna triggy. She was born April 3 1879.

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When they were first married, they lived in Paris parents farm at Beaver point which is now the Manhattan area monadic Road area.

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They later moved to 215 Morningside road, and they establish their own while mini farm I don't believe they ever sold produce but they certainly grew a lot and had a lot and they shared with family and friends.

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They had chickens, a milk cow pigs and a huge vegetable garden. They had a wonderful fruit trees planted in the orchard.

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Clara belong to the Burgoyne United Church, and she was active in the Folkert Women's Institute. And I think she was sewing and embroidering for articles for their sales right up until a few days before she died. And I think she was at eight when she died.

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This is the family group that celebrated their special day. Their son Fred and his wife Mabel are missing from the picture. And this picture was taken inside of David and Clara's home on Morningside road.

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Now, and the next picture, I do not have many pictures of David and Clara together. So I put this one and it's not the clearest picture. But I like it. The little baby sitting on claros Navia Stannah

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she's about six months old.

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now okay, where are we here? We have this picture was taken at the Morningside road. And in the early early morning, early years back when he said road was the end of Morningside there, their house was at the end of Morningside road. You couldn't go any farther.

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This is the next one is, whoops, something happened to our our

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work we did programming these pictures. Now so I know let's go back again, Frank if I can't find it. Okay, well, let's do one. There's a picture of Morningside Roadhouse. This is the old picture of Morningside Roadhouse. I guess we can't find it.

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No, we're gonna go back.

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There, there it is. That's a picture of Morningside road that's taken from the water looking towards the road. And that's how it used to look in about the 1930s Or maybe the late 20s. Okay, let's go to the next one. If you can find it, Frank.

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That's a new one. Okay. This is the new one that was taken for me this year.

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They that Baldwins that own it, they really

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looked after it. They kept the outside of the house almost the same. The inside has changed.

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Okay. I also have to tell you that I was born in this house, and although they read it

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A lot of the Interior, the bedroom that I was born in is still the same.

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I recognize it.

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Okay, now we want David in his uniform.

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There. Yes. David went overseas in the First World War 1916. And I have some letters that David wrote to his wife and children

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on July 20, and these are some quotes from his letters. 1916. He wrote, big felt very sad when he said goodbye.

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And then written in May 12 1916. He's in training in Victoria.

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He says, and this is, quote, on Wednesday, they picked out 62 of us to test us out for a tug of war team.

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They had two blocks and a lead. We were to lift 400 pounds, wait and hold it there.

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There were only four who done it. I was scared to try it. I saw so many fail. I was a second last one to try. And I had done it without much trouble. So I was put on now we are to practice four afternoons a week, and no extra jobs.

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I'm reading his letters. He was very lonely. He would have loved to be home with his family. He did not write a lot about his actual war experience. He never even talked about his work experience when he came home. And many of us letters were written from the hospitals.

Unknown Speaker 36:34
He was in England and he was in France.

Unknown Speaker 36:37
He talks of wanting to go and visit his aunt Eliza in Ireland. And I don't know if he actually made it. So I never heard that he did. But he did visit Ireland and he thought it was the most beautiful country he had ever been in. And I think that has to go somebody better than Saltspring

Unknown Speaker 36:55
Okay, let's go on to the postcard. Can we get the front of it first.

Unknown Speaker 36:59
He sent this postcard to his son.

Unknown Speaker 37:02
Oh no sorry about that.

Unknown Speaker 37:06
I want the postcard he sent with that the flowers on it.

Unknown Speaker 37:11
This one, this is a postcard he sent because this is how they sent Christmas cards. Then he sent it to his wife wishing her and the children a merry Christmas. And then he would try his best to have a Merry Christmas. It is dated 1916 So this would be his first time away from Christmas away from home at Christmas time.

Unknown Speaker 37:30
Then we want the next one. This is the one he I knew that he had been at me read but I couldn't find a letter. And so I but I did find this postcard and it's dated October the 17th 1917. And it's addressed to his son Fred. It is written from Seaford England.

Unknown Speaker 37:48
And it says and I quote, This is how they run and fail when we got after them on baby ranch. And then he goes on how is funny.

Unknown Speaker 37:59
Now don't get married before I get home for I want to be there.

Unknown Speaker 38:03
And just for your information. I don't know who Bonnie is. But Fred never married her. I was hoping Bob would be here today to tell us about Beekman.

Unknown Speaker 38:13
Okay. Claire and David had seven children.

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They This is a picture of the firstborn,

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Lorna Clara.

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She died very young of pneumonia. And she's very beside her grandfather Theodore draggy, which is now two for one morning side roads, because that used to be the max width property. This picture is actually on a metal plate. It's quite unique. And it copied very well. Maybe not so well there. And Lorna was born in 1901

Unknown Speaker 38:48
the next one?

Unknown Speaker 38:50
Yeah, Elizabeth Geneva. She was born in 1903. And after going to Burgoyne school here she went on to Sydney to get her high school education. And then she went on to the royal Jubilee Hospital and then obtained your nurses, our her RN.

Unknown Speaker 39:08
Unfortunately, she died of pneumonia shortly after getting her RN and she's also buried at St. Mary's.

Unknown Speaker 39:17
Now the next ones, I've got a group picture of the rest most of the rest of the children.

Unknown Speaker 39:22
This is a group pictures and they're not an age wise, I'm going to read them in name wise. The first one on my left on your land. Sorry, it's Steven and he was better known as Ty. He was nicknamed Ty after the baseball player. They were all very athletic. The next one is Fred, the one that David had wrote to the next one the lady is honest minor which is my mum.

Unknown Speaker 39:50
Standing beside her the younger one is Lewis Carl but he was better known as bus.

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And the last one is Angus I had to

Unknown Speaker 40:00
After Bobby came and he said that my grandfather had nicknamed every one of them and I haven't learned all their nicknames yet.

Unknown Speaker 40:07
Okay, let's go and see. Okay, now that's

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okay, this is

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John and Mary's James I guess because I haven't got them in the in the date order. I have to remind you who they are. This is grandpa David match was brother. He was born in 1875. He lived as a farmer and lager living on the Maxwell farm. And he's also been living with his brother Richard.

Unknown Speaker 40:37
In 1916. He also left for the World War One.

Unknown Speaker 40:41
He never married. But I have some letters written by him, sent to him to his niece in San Francisco.

Unknown Speaker 40:51
And here he is how he tells how he when he left the farm.

Unknown Speaker 40:55
I left the old farm in April seemed too bad to leave. It is it. There never was a day these last 50 years that there wasn't a maximum on it. Now maybe you meant the farm. I interpret that just maybe Saltspring. But it could have meant the farm but have a good boy running it until I get back.

Unknown Speaker 41:17
Then he goes on to say I sold my automobile when left. So I have to get a new one. When I come back from war.

Unknown Speaker 41:26
David writes to his daughter Eliza in August the 11th 1916 sing. I had a letter from Jim last night. And he says he only had one letter since he left BC. And he's very anxious to get the news. I wished I could find time to write him all the news also. He has a good job way up in Scotland running a Ford car for the officers. He goes on to give Jim's address that he was and he goes he was in a 224 forester battalion number two.

Unknown Speaker 42:02
In a letter Jim wrote to Murray, his niece in 1916. He tells her he is happy with the forestry battalion. But he wants to transfer eventually to another regiment and try for sharpshooter as he had handled rifles all of his life.

Unknown Speaker 42:18
And in some are David's letters he's writing he's quite worried about Jim. He hasn't heard from him. And he's asking his wife to try to find out more about him. Eventually, that they learn that he is missing and he's believed that he was on leave from his battalion and he was heading to Ireland to visit his aunt. But he never arrived. And they never did find out what happened to him. But James was of all the Maxwell's a very, very flashy dresser

Unknown Speaker 42:47
and they believe he was killed for his money.

Unknown Speaker 42:51
David keeps repeating that he hasn't heard from Jim from July 15 to November 29. So sometime in that date, he has disappeared.

Unknown Speaker 43:01
James left his property on Saltspring on into his sister Mary and Sanford. She's married in San Francisco at this time.

Unknown Speaker 43:08
Now we go on to Mary, this is Mary his sister on the left.

Unknown Speaker 43:14
Of course, you'd be on the left. She was born in 1877. She left Saltspring and lived in San Francisco. She married Anton Lindbergh.

Unknown Speaker 43:24
They had two daughters, Annie and Marie, and He's the eldest one.

Unknown Speaker 43:29
And Marie was telling me about her mom. She said that when she graduated from high school and was going for an interview for a job. Her mother insisted on going on the interview with her.

Unknown Speaker 43:42
And she thought there's no way she's going to get the job was her mother with her.

Unknown Speaker 43:46
But she did in fact, get the job.

Unknown Speaker 43:49
Not only that, she stayed on the same job, all of her life.

Unknown Speaker 43:54
She eventually became the secretary treasurer, and she had shares in the company.

Unknown Speaker 44:03
Next one, this is a life of the youngest daughter. She was born in 1882. She also moved to San Francisco and she married a Mr. Vernon. I have no I do not have a picture of him.

Unknown Speaker 44:16
They had one daughter Victoria. I think the next one that speaks that this is Eliza, his daughter Victoria. And I know absolutely nothing about this branch of the family.

Unknown Speaker 44:29
So this concludes my three generations at the maximum

Unknown Speaker 44:50
what was the attraction to San Francisco?

Unknown Speaker 44:55
I don't know what the attraction was. But I'm guessing because John was in California.

Unknown Speaker 45:00
a gold rush I mentioned he left from San Francisco to come up to Victoria property to get the Canada and he probably told them about San Francisco. That's my guess

Unknown Speaker 45:16
what the vote certainly came from San Francisco to Victoria. So I would think so.

Unknown Speaker 45:21
Maybe it was the weather

Unknown Speaker 45:40
probably was.

Unknown Speaker 45:42
Oh, I should say that employment probably was better. That reminds me I meant to tell you that Eliza became a barber. And that was very, very unusual for a lady to become a barber. And those days

Unknown Speaker 45:54
I'd forgotten about that. Thank

Unknown Speaker 46:00
you, Mary inherited? I have never seen a whale so I don't know how they divvied up the land that Mary inherited James property. So I think maybe James B is that right? You know that James was in the old metal property with me. Yeah, I think so. And then he all his property went to marry when he was missing and believe dance so and she came up spoke to Larson, Richard until

Unknown Speaker 46:25
he died

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I remember living

Unknown Speaker 46:35
in a little house but what about the other one down by the water?

Unknown Speaker 46:40
too? There was two metal housing. It was the only one living there

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Do you want to hear this?

Unknown Speaker 47:07
How much damage I got?

Unknown Speaker 47:10
No, no, I'm a Saltspring editor. Not only my Saltspring on them. I'm a cell fan assaults.

Unknown Speaker 47:20
We I don't know if we have time for that.

Unknown Speaker 47:22
I'll just give you a brief one. I my mother married William Guzzi a and he can't he's not originally my dad was not originally from Saltspring. But James Aikman

Unknown Speaker 47:34
at Bob's uncle

Unknown Speaker 47:36
was running a farm out the beaver Point Road area by Storm Lake. And he didn't have children and he needed farm help. And my dad was in the Catholic orphanage in Vancouver. And in the Catholic orphanages, they do not want teenager boys in the orphanage. And so they tried to find them okay. And my dad was lucky to get James Aikman to take them.

Unknown Speaker 47:59
And as a result, there was a lot of Maxwell boys. My mother had not two brothers. And they were very good ballplayers and soccer players and my dad just joined him their family because he didn't really have a family. And eventually, they married my mom and and William poopsie Bill Cooksey better known.

Unknown Speaker 48:18
And I went to school at Beaver point, the little red schoolhouse until I went to high school.

Unknown Speaker 48:24
I graduated from Salt Spring It was then called a consolidated High School consolidated. What was it called secondary, I know, consolidated school, it had grade one to grade 12 in it.

Unknown Speaker 48:38
And then I went off to Victoria

Unknown Speaker 48:41
and went this branch of school for business training and got a job.

Unknown Speaker 48:46
I met my husband Jack and Victoria. He was in the Navy at that time.

Unknown Speaker 48:51
And we've been we lived in Victoria.

Unknown Speaker 48:56
And we did one year in Dartmouth, Nova Scotia through the Navy.

Unknown Speaker 49:01
And then when my husband I have to say I have two daughters to Dan and Pauline. We are here. And then my husband got out of the Navy and he went to Bush flying bush pilot. So we lived in Pearl River. And I don't know where else.

Unknown Speaker 49:19
We've moved Victoria power. Well, I've always lived on a coast either the East Coast and one one year and East Coast to the rest on the West Coast.

Unknown Speaker 49:27
We went back to Victoria when my husband stopped flying in wind as a marine engineer with the BC Ferries.

Unknown Speaker 49:35
And then eventually when we retired we moved back to Salt Spring because my mother had in heritage, the property from her parents where our house is now and we are now on that property. And we built on that property. We haven't got all of the max we'll find that it was huge. It extended down to the Reginald Hill subdivision where the Reginald Hill subdivision starts

Unknown Speaker 50:00
to them Weston Creek. When I crossed the weft and Creek when I was little visiting my grandparents their chicken house was across the creek. There was no road.

Unknown Speaker 50:11
So now

Unknown Speaker 50:14
I have two grandsons. Actually, I have four grandsons, but two are here. And I have one great grandson.

Unknown Speaker 50:24
Any question?

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Located property near the water

Unknown Speaker 50:36
I don't quite know which area you're talking about. You mean don't? Well, it's what we hope to build.

Unknown Speaker 50:44
On the north side, what

Unknown Speaker 50:46
are we talking about forward harbor?

Unknown Speaker 50:49
We're not even sure what you're talking about. Which part of Saltspring Are you?

Unknown Speaker 50:54
Are you in the Morningside road? No, no, you're down in Brooklyn. Okay. No, I don't. Chris Do you know Chris knows more Brooklyn than I do.

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Unknown Speaker 51:14
I'm talking Bob would be here

Unknown Speaker 51:16
could answer all the questions I couldn't.

Unknown Speaker 51:25
Okay, any other questions?

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you personal discussion?