293_Johnston_History-Mouats-Trading_Kahn-Interviewy.mp3

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24.04.2023

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Make some notes here what when did you start

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I guess I was probably 13

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That would be about 1940

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You were 12 I would be a Nike 40

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picking berries my father was so upset that I was so tired but your honor gave me a job for 10 cents an hour

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Bob

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Wilson has to be eaten up all at once because because there's no

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we have well we have we would get for the reformed

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masters and myself and get

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my nice work there as well as

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some other people that were here in the summer that was our job and we just be so

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far after opening because the next thing would go

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next

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but it would run out

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we didn't we didn't get the extreme from the the ice cream came from Victoria

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Victoria

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first it was Laurie

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goodness

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we would have a difference but then it ran out

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to the people come down to another time

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dad was

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making the ice cream

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because what would happen would be that

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my friends would

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call me

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how would they call

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I often would rate down to

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one day a week that was the major time but then there was also the truth. So that would be working

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with

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a different service

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provider well that was a company that was

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making

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another service always begin to service more service more

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probably but

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at least once.

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Couple of

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the

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grocery department

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the butcher shop I think the butcher shop was one of my favorites probably more than

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I loved

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I worked

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with well we used only when I was about

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four or five. We went out to the farm with my dad and we would go to the barber

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shop

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listed

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right next to the slaughter.

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And

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that was

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the firm was actually probably managed, but also

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in a way

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professionals

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It

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used to be the slaughter

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and sometimes

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people on the island and

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I go with

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it also made

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sausages

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worked in the butcher shop

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you look at the diagram

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it was in a separate building

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there was a smokehouse next to the

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one labor he used to make sausages in my house but they used to be sold

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he actually

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killed the

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separate starters a very personal

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was great overlooking St Louis

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and that was

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also

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on

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both sides of the road except I think

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that was

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the thought of this was on the late side and nearly

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yes it was it was

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property

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goes

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up

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belong to the office

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and they also give soldering and the opposite slide

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into

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it

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most of the

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time

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I laugh in a way

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about the store being so important because much of the business of the stores and right in our home

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because

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you can go to work

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early on with people in the store

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and if you'd always loved stealing business

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selling business from home and

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that he

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didn't come into work

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because it was not because he wasn't working

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where we are most was what's going to be the

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cloud

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what do we do at home we get

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all kinds of

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favorites

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used to bring home his son put a little note on that he used to bring home

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at night. We used to bring home all the

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packing slips

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and always bill for the things that came in boxes. And he used to get them to me because I was quite a few years ahead of the school for me and that was to be a little job I get

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the packing slip together to make sure that when everything was coming in we weren't

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built

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to give it up. I don't think

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so.

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Okay, so he worked from home

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flooded

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with any other buildings, any other places was

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conducted. I don't know that there were

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pretty major export.

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There would have been quite an investment

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to go

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to

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You know I remember when they felt that they had an adult

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but I don't know when

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I get some regulations

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local farmers

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and a profits letter

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trying to figure out a way of getting around that

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portable

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probably

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reading

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obviously there's something

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that works

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and it works oh there was a lot more I put in here my dad had a regular fight with the marketing board he was really curious because he

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started saying that everything has to be inspected before all the farmers were trying to sell it

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so he has a regular fight going on with

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people who are new in the provincial government

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he talks about

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going around

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and looking at oh he didn't go he looked at the animals themselves they bought the mark up to the

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hidden sit in the car and they were just bringing the animals were the

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people that were selling my pocket

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he bought

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so

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all for maybe you had a contraption really tried to drive your activity product too difficult and it was a lot of

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money

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a better

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way to deal with

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the boys and then in the ward driver

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was so busy the load of the whole star and everything

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so he decided I was

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recording

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and the rules are pretty rudimentary and our friend Mr. Speaker

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is ever going

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to

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show them how to

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turn

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short time coming in the center is getting in the

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car right up to the

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speed of standing

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he just taught me

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every lesson

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so when you

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look at these, I just I don't think he was doing as much power took him a few points

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that I remember

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when he bought animals from farmers, we

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pay cash for them.

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I don't know how it works. I think he probably

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but they also think that the grocery store was a barter

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perfect

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I guess in some ways, you know it's kind of function as a company

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in the country.

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I think so. You know everybody would buy

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got to get to

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what you what you produce

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a lot and

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that is also the notary public.

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He was also

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counsel and forever probably people because they thought

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people would come in

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meaning

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if you want to have

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someone pouring out all their problems I

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was

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interested in talking to him he couldn't say nothing

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he just really

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got

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that was that was unfortunately

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very unfortunate but that was that was the he was a different person God was nothing cute was because of his own polio

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as I said to our family in there without without for well being

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keep an eye on

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the

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store would have survived he would have given away he was giving away

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No no

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I was talking with somebody in the store

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and

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somebody comes in

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a lot

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so

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getting back to the building where can you remember the

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work on the premises

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rather than the flooding

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that there was anything else there was

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a lumber wandered around but that's that I don't remember you don't remember any specific buildings honestly other than

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farm was a very major part

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of another property

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how does the trading company compete

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the trading company

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know how to play the back

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catalogue

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because I remember they didn't really represent

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no but the groceries were important

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there was never a really bad feeling

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that was always very different and then again was rapidly to go longer

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so I don't think

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it's always a good thing about that

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what about

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the other

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day

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but they were able to supply quite a bit of news

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but we still have huge artists with the Logan with trucks

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and even over

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delivering

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they used to go once a week and I'm not quite sure how they did it but they went over the mountain I never went there but I go

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was built in the 30s

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Maybe they didn't before but in the 30s but this was in your mind sure he would have

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gotten out never want

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to when

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he would be a teenager he was working on before I got to be victims about four years older than I was very close to Alan

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he would have been

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no no not at

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all more than 80 I'm 77 and Manson would have been 78

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would have been 78 this year indicates at least so difficult.

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So you can get

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in trouble for probably

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probably

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you think you have to remember

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numbers the numbers the password and the press L you might remember

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might ask

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we'll come up with some amazing things

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in order to get

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a set up for the last year

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okay so

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well

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the store the store sold almost everything

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where the competition

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I saw this

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word was it was a sore point to my dad and

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everybody

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Let's

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see how they could go to what was and get everything so while he was coming well by the time you go to

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see the brain on it

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you don't give him any

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way it was a silver Woodward's was probably the largest and the other one was Victoria Wisconsin

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and he was so

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many of us the only time I ever got

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to be with him

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firmly believe that we should never need to buy anything others are not available at

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any unless it happens not brothers any of us who happen to fall by the wayside

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he also believed in mounting with resources on

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the one hand is the best competition

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when you have people being hourly

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either

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for you can ask your

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people amazing and you think about Neil or

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Donald

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Johnson

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so yeah so

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on the West Coast

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way way back

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in the middle of nowhere so I guess yeah that's what was in Vancouver

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so I thought was cool

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know that

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was always I don't remember if it was Hayward or if it was somewhere else I don't probably do it later on but I don't remember honestly. But he followed me to find a place

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to be the local Undertaker

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so I was separate from

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no

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other that worked in

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business arranging and they ordered the casket

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believe it was

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starting something there wasn't there wasn't in the office. Oh no, there wasn't an office it was something one of the things that he wasn't in the office for selling logs or that he saw logs from home for the people

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but but that was still he didn't get private commissions on these because that was still more

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private

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so when they arrange

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also

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with the cemetery

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so if most of that has been done like in the central cemetery or a lot most of it was in a central cemetery but I think they probably did it in

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small small here

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but there is a Catholic cemetery

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somewhere else

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there's another cemetery

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by the public cemetery and I

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decided

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there's a one on the cutting Yes, I noticed

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I

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must be more Catholics that are very

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very central

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know maybe

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we have

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more

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so so that was all done from from the house.

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No it wasn't.

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So that

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was that so all the stuff that went on I

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really got the personal stories about that groceries, the butcher shop, the

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nice cream county station drugs Sunday.

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And enough to

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drive the clothing elevator, there's the elevator with the elevator

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and the women's clothing, there's a stairwell. Okay, we'll start off with the general office.

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Now, I haven't shown worthy, worthy

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things like the lumberyard or warehouse

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outside this shows the things that were done in the stone and the changes I guess I could write this out. But I remember

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watching Trump later became a post office

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that's the post office actually moved over to here

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to get some

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of the things

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that would be interesting it

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might be able to help with the changes

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because she is showing memory she was here I graduated from high school

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and she and she is learning stuff and his

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daughter

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but there's always changes and I don't remember all of them for instance state building here around nice employee a little cash and they have groceries and little things in there and then they took that out and then they moved to groceries when they dug out the basement and leave the grocery counter and then they move to purchase

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and then greenhouse and then we build a new building on greenhouse

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that was yes it was on a separate building and I think I'm trying to remember was it it was eventually it was in the building where where they have more clothing but there was also there was another one

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that was always there it

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was over with the current post offices so it's the harbor building where

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is where the word clouds ice cream

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because the Ganges was on that side and I think that whole thing is being called out because

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then they have to get their amendment at the bank. It was first of all the real estate was on one side of the game

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and then they tore it out to make up a new bank

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because I was

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coming into this

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because

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I was not living her full time.

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I know but Tom was coming home

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after that. As you

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know they started some filming for

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the good Centennial Parkland 64

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Most major loss going was after college so he should remember whether there was another building

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trying to survive has gone on before

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so I should talk to her

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about what I can draw these diagrams of what I remember out whatever but then there's but I don't I can't give you the details dates on when the changes took place because I didn't really look back and forth and I worked in the store with the last time I worked in the store was nice

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so most of

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you are working

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welcome

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I've been 22 Yes I was 22 and you're right I was

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so

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young

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Now you talked about

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subject to flooding that's exactly right. I don't know how they manage the risk of putting into

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the base of a subject contain only a men's bathroom

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and a little bit of storage almost nothing It was open but

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there must have been something of a waiting room tells me

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that you've

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done

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well they they at that point it's I guess it's

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eaten

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because it was my brother Colin

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14

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That was when

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they started on the basement renovation

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took a couple of years but within

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the cooling flooring probably 4445 and 4747 I would say

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it's I don't know what it was always going to

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be around

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that's

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how

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it was a post office. It

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was one it must be

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one.

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But it was still missing. I guess most of the

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time. Mr. Pipe py. Yes. I don't know if there are any pirates on the island.

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No, but I didn't know his name. And he was he was one of the mail carriers. And then Mr. Noon, Harry new needs to do the north end of the

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I don't remember.

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So that would also be from

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early 40s,

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mid 40s, early 40s I guess because I would be a kid at school and I remember that. I mean, there must have been more than high school. Oh, there must be more than two but but they did a lot they did those majors

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to have to get the mail but the mail would have come in

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Princess Mary overall.

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Wouldn't there have been some that came to

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places like beaver point or Fulford

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really started in 1938 when they ferry service is not when it started 1930s 1960 The

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Gulf Islands ferry service.

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There was a ferry service before

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there was a

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I was six years old.

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And I remember going to Victoria was that was that on the on the ferry on me that the one that kept him was kept a monster. So it was maybe it was started by somebody else and Gavin. Gavin was a bit older, didn't start getting darker. It was taken over it was the one that killed I think

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it was 31

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it was 3030 was what's that word that makes it because I remember I was trying to think of it the other day. My brother was married. Laurie was married when I was 14. I remember the wedding but I can't remember how we got there but I think we got there by ferry

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at that time, and I certainly remember going

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Laurie

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there's more than one lawyer. Oh, there's Laurie Sander who's, who's my niece.

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Okay, but there's only one Laurie. Okay. So she was Larimore.

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Somebody

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that's my knee. No, it was something that Tom suggested.

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Good morning Brewster Laurie has a lot of pictures. family pictures.

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Maximum. No glorious is younger than Laurie is.

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No, she is math my brother Matt, daughter, my brother Max daughter, Lauren math with a two who really during the time that star was going and after my father passed away they were the two.

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Who were the main. Okay, so they both are brothers. They were my brothers. Oh, yes.

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So it was all sort of God Gilbert's family that really. We're running the store

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when you have your

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column, he was very much involved.

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Yes, Colin was my brother as well. But he wasn't involved as long. Because he was he was even really very progressive. And I think he was a bit more progressive than then they were ready to do it that time. And he also wanted to he wanted to do other things. And he went into real estate.

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Oh, right. Right. Right. So he moved on

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to sample Gavin. And, but he did a lot in the start. He was a very hard worker. He lived with my grandmother from the time he was a teenager, mid teenager because she needed help. And so along with to live with her came home

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something

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oh

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that was when he passed away. Yeah.

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He was on wonderful.

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They all were.

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And I think I didn't even notice

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Oh, here you asked about

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change. I didn't know that. 39 it became brothers limited.

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But when did it become older?

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Must have been at least 40 years it was?

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Probably 1914.

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Oh, initially, it was only a short time that dad was there with an uncle well, because

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I think it was only after a year or so. Called Dorian that mod Rand 56 When Cohen joined Gavin So Oh, that was you've got the time.

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That was the thing. I wasn't quite sure what year when I wrote this

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letter

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assuming that this is correct, no, I'm sure it is because there are

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so okay.

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Up there. That will bill Bill Bill. Actually Bill was a teacher. And he he was and then he was a school superintendent. He lives in Williams Lake superintendent and salmon arm and eventually Abbotsford

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garden. Yeah, but he is frightened. And he had a big they have a big out for school more high school was named after Bill Gates there. And in Abbotsford, yes. And until he was in his 90s they had a birthday party for him every year. And then

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a couple of them came over here to see. But they used to take the birthday party to his house and he could no longer go to.

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So it was a one it had a wonderful association with that last school, but he was he was really old was 93

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but he was really contributed a lot.

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So I was thinking that your your siblings had died young because you don't look 77

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So i i

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I thought well, gee, you're still around and your siblings are all there but they actually were.

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They all died in their 70s or except for Bill. Mac was in his 80s. And Bill was in his 90s My sister Kane was

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75 and she died and she but she was 14 years old and she was a teacher. And she

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taught on Galliano for a while and didn't teach her to marry and then she taught went back to university not from economics, and art at the school. Oh here

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If

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and

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how long would it

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be?

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8090 or retired

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60.

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To shoot, she was probably the youngest to die.

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No, Laurie died at 71.

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So are you the youngest?

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I was 11 years younger than

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my next sibling.

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Oh, wow. So that's why I spent so much time with my parents. And ya know what happened? Yes, I was there. They were all gone. Yeah. So I soaked it up.

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But they but but they were working. They were working in the store. They were working.

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So

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when I had to hear that

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Colin

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Mac were

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running the store. They were they were actually involved in the store before?

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Oh, yes. But then they took it over.

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Cricket was very much involved. Of course, still, because he's still on half the business. Yeah. But but they actually functions to run the story he just was was there. He was ill for a while. And then then we get back into business. And he was still

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you were not as much as I think was never the same.

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The world was surely, y'all but it was there were a lot of shareholders there.

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And they were mainly family.

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will spam and his family had a large percentage.

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So what has it been hard for your brothers to run a store with? Like, I mean, there must have been other branches of the family who had shares in the store who wanted to get their two cents worth. Oh, yeah, I think they managed it.

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Was it it worked out? Well? And was were they given sort of a pretty well free rein to do with? Not always no, no. But it worked out. They'd always worked it out. And I was always I think everybody was pretty satisfied. And as it turned out, you know, and I think they all tried to have just like Bill wasn't interested in the store. And same way, Ivan found his vocation. Finally, he liked teaching after the war. And it worked out at the peak. And the other thing was that these three had sort of spent their time there from the beginning. I guess that was what it was. It didn't go anywhere else. So today, the day they would have presumably had a salary as well as whatever shows that Oh, yes. They had a record. So I've seen like I've seen sure certificate.

Unknown Speaker 42:53
Did they? Was it like any company where they they paid a dividend for sure. I used to get dividends. I had first I had two shares. And then after our parents

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were here, yeah.

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And were they always able to pay dividends or was always paid dividends? Never, never missed a dividend.

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And they increased times, but they never.

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So the store was always profitable. It was always profitable. And never. They there were bad. There were some crises.

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I was thinking about what were the crisis that I could remember, I'm sure other people will think about a crisis.

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The suggesting around the time took over.

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I don't know if it was the 60s, but

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it was going downhill quickly.

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Well, they had a problem with

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a before with employees wanting to start a union. Oh.

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And that was that that really created a set her salary doubled from 50 cents to $1 an hour when they wanted to. Yeah.

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It was it was some that woman who was had shares in the cleaning company in New York.

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But it seems to pass the Queen Margaret. Over. But But when when Tom took over, it was a question of I think at that stage, it was a question of if they had to spend a lot of money or they had solid and Laurie was in his mid 60s.

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Getting towards his mid 60s Mac was 10 years younger. It's probably harder for Mac to give it up. But they just couldn't come to the point of spending the money so they either had to spend the money or get out of it. And that's what really what was gonna happen. What's gonna go downhill and

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so on. So with with that,

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the 60s No.

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I don't know. I don't think that was the worst time

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I think you're well, the worst time was the one they were the union really upset?

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Because they didn't think they could handle it. They just couldn't handle the

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they couldn't see how they could handle that and make change, or unnecessary. Yeah. Because I could see the changes were coming. And then I guess the thing is that the store has functioned as well as it did, because all along, when you think of it, they had huge, large number of family members who grew up and we worked, and we worked hard. We worked twice as hard as a lot of people at work. And the time these works like that, and the jury was like that.

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They were pretty well.

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They were family. And I and so so there was no longer that large resource of family members.

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I think because it was before Norman's girls were old enough anymore. Out, was it bigger coming on by the time Tom.

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I wondered if that was a factor.

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You mean having fewer families?

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work there. But

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but that was one and I guess the other crisis was one data set.

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That was earlier.

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But they got shut down.

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Because that was only used on the off a couple of years.

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They apparently

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and they were a deeply

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he had polio

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in 1914.

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His really, business was quite young. It was quite young. And Uncle Whelan was came back quite a few years before that. So so he was there. And my grandmother was there like I guess uncle Kevin was.

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But But I remember my mother telling me that when he went back to work with older, tremendous amount

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at the store, and how hard she worked continues to soul.

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Star was a deeply in depth at that point. So so that was a must have been a very critical time.

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That was

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play around.

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So although they managed to hold the story together, it didn't go ahead. But it was good that they held it together. That was Did they have the share system?

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I don't know.

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But I suspect that

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we couldn't have been paying dividends.

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While maybe they didn't pay? I don't

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know.

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It's

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difficult to know, you find out about things that are

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gonna find out.

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It's probably not important for this project anyway. But

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it does help to sort of get going.

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But then then the war was another difficult time during World War Two, because so many young people are away. But Laurie really, really, really worked extremely hard during that time.

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Because he was the only one of that practice and the only one of that generation Ivan was away. That drapes were away. Of course, my brothers were away from the army. And

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they didn't come

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to the press more women.

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Then yeah, that's what happened. Most of the women. I guess the women work Betty work Max wife work she was she was a very brave woman. And she started before they were married. She was working in the ice cream center. But then she went up to the office and she was a dancer that she was that person had it working out there. So she was a big help. And older people worked but

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Marguerite said that when she was working in the store, it was almost like all retired people working in store. I was very, very old. There were a lot

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that could have been that could have been

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from the Ward as

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well.

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Good, good.

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Women have like come to they get much in the way of management positions where they mostly

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Well, there weren't many management positions in that when it comes down to it, but I think the women I don't know if the women got paid as well as the men or not that I wouldn't know. But

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you had to be pretty, pretty pushy to get in there. I found that out. And you had to be pretty, you know, it was a bit of a sexist.

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I mean all about

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the public

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The whole world of SpaceX

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and I'm sure

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Marguerite was saying she's obviously got quite a lot of responsible jobs

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because she was talking about

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14

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counts

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when are you going to do

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this is when your brother

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gave it a job we probably recognized that she was bright enough yeah after all I drove with the age of 12 Yeah

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so after after the war

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was there anything between them in the 60s

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we are getting down here this is the changes that happened you would have been a whale I was away so much I came back in the summers

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and worked there

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so next door

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my nephew yeah now he was he when he would Mac 63 So he would have been there and maybe he might be able to tell you more about that

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was that his career

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and he retired or any asset what is current survey that we can make because he probably has managed to work fewer years a lot of us and have a happy life which I think is a really

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wonderful I know someone who

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I can talk to him he's never had a job

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that work never had a job. Matt has always worked but he worked as a surveyor for probably a year on there is no no up north

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nothing Yukon but up that way.

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So he only worked part time for this

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would have been part time. I don't know. I don't know who would have been who would have been there in the in the desert.

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Bonnie might have but she worked part time.

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Yes, okay. But she might be able to tell you more about

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it

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think so she would know the period between

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or she would know in more detail in the in the late 40s.

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Probably than I because I went away to school when I was 16 it was binding on the island. And she would be here until

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she'd be here until about 50

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probably 51 or 50.

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And then she was

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the other person that might remember remember something so big Gilbert.

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Oh, okay. You should ask your

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take when they came to us.

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But then Gilbert was way too this is a different

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calling was Gilbert's father and Gilbert McCollum went away in the 50s

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funny I always think of from

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calling connection rather than just not being connection to survey I was in terms of those brothers.

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The Koch brothers they were all family friends very old family friends.

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And that's where that came in. Not competing to call in

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but I know they they had a place

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they were up on undoubtedly

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they can see from here that point over there was there with Bob. Bob, Bob and Ernest and John

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lived on that point.

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Is that effort Gilbert.

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Oh yeah and column sort of took out their close friends and when dad died he said the column look after the columns for the after Bob column. And so that that's how that Association came in.

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Let left him

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beautiful.

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So when everything here most of us

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Thinking about no he

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gave you a bumpsteer

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because he was in I know he was I know he's in real estate. But he was always you

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know when he was there you see when

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Colin went to Washington he was gone

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What's

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up

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again, and Isabelle

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is Laurie she's

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Nike far and actually Isabelle has

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you may not profess to have has a better memory of

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Yes. And that Isabel worked in the store for 15 years.

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Now there was there was a woman that worked. She worked in the store manager.

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She's in her 90s

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and she's she was tell me when she worked. It was worth Lori's probably right now.

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She worked in the store. Yes. When she was quite active that that was at a time she went in there when

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she lived said

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I want to call Franklin does not Berkeley she lived at birth where the

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retirements Mary Toynbee were

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buried there so as an emissary

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showing how long you still work in a store I think I haven't

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asked them

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is about with an active partner community it also spent 15 years in the store where she worked hard managing the buying for the dry goods and clothing for in the post for years until the sale was a business

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sale

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she was there for 15 years. So in a way I sort of got that

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Mr. Elliot, Mr. Elliot

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I think

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he was associated with

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two L's

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i don't know i was trying to think about this morning

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was he on that list? Yes, he's on the list.

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It should be derived Mr. Elliott and then later Mr. Crawford categorized

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we don't have any idea of the years Oh Let's rally ahead a garage as long as I remember. So what was through the 30s

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and

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right there and what the into well into the and some of the boys weren't there I don't remember which ones

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okay, I

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so these these pictures

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these are just these are just ones that I'll probably use to tell the story of the length of

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a story that oh, that's

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the kind of progressive I think these are the ones that they have in Nashville that are just wondering if any of those shows that other buildings are still logged in

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that's the store

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now there's a building across the street

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and Mr. Elliott's garage has gone.

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way it's changed

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that has to be the real the real estate one across the street today. Very cool.

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Used in there also was

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a garage but the garage I think was more down normally I have a picture just remember that I did and he had his own label and I thought that

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that would be the intermediate problem and he had everything laid off

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you get it you took the photo and did a tracing and then on the tracing

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that's what these pictures are

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and then there's a bunch of things that aren't necessarily

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just

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some of these

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are wonderful day

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I think a lot of these were

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sharp oh my

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god hurt you was very good to me when I

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met her at the

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time

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so then there's some

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but there's a photo somewhere of Gilbert employees

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printed out

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might be from the snapshots

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sitting on

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but there's lots of people

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a lot of the people here

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Could you identify a lot of

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seemed to me that wasn't there a picture like that at the at that pocket Central Hall?

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Not sure it was from this

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website

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but I could always grab a copy and maybe we could identify some of some of the people it might be

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anyway these are

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pictures

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remember

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that's the one.

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one.

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Everybody

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so