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Ted Brown (1905-)

Mr. Brown gives a detailed account of employment of the Island between 1920-1972.

Accession Number Interviewer Tony Farr
Date 1982 Location
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Unknown Speaker 0:00
This recording is of Mr. Ted Brown made on April 13 1982. Now, where did you come from Ted was born and hauled and lived about a year and a half there. And my father decided he wanted to come out to a new country and John was coming. So he left us mother didn't want to come with him. And he was so clear. He landed in Victoria eventually, and found out to imagine come from his home city, and found out that his brother in law and sister were up on Saltspring island. So he came up to see them and he liked the country decided he'd like to settle. Rather than law Westerman set the plates next door, because duke says it. And so somehow rather he got it off us that binding paid $200 For him to transfer the claim. What year was this? What year was that was 19, six, November 19. And he stayed here. And finally, he used to write to Mother You see, and finally she said she she'd come with effects give her that she wasn't gonna come alone. So just on Christmas of 99 he arrived back in England. And we sailed I guess, just on the New Year. Month must stay with my grandmother in Driffield before we left and we landed in Victoria on the 19th of January 1910. And he had to place first down there and we stayed I think two different places in Victoria. He had a job to go to the been a carpenter and cabinet maker. He worked there on I suppose it would be both the 24th of May weekend we came up to the island as the first time I saw it. I remember the bracken Fern was growing up and the roads were dusty. We went back again that night. Or maybe the next day I forget which however, now for some of the old Europe while we used to go on it to Sydney and then take the ENN from Sydney to Victoria. And finally, we came up about the end of the summer I imagine if it's early September. We stayed up a week and then he came up the weekend with the rest of our stuff. And he hadn't quite finished the house. We had to live in the old shack, you know, first belt. This was on the temporary road on the Cranberry Road. Yeah, well where I am now. And I've been there off and on ever since. Yeah. Then what did you go to school here? Did you go to school? I didn't go to school. Victoria wasn't quite old in 1911 They started the school and the cranberry Marsh. And I went there. Harris with the first teacher and then AJ W dawn the next one with Miss Marley Elizabeth Morley, from Duncan. Next one was

Unknown Speaker 4:06
Jean McGregor the neck just after the war broke out with a message quite.

Unknown Speaker 4:25
Yet I went to school there until 1920 years during the 1920s. I went for a week for exams to guarantee school, and I got through the year before I've been to victorious, but I didn't get through. I failed in some subjects. Just beginning to find out what it all meant. By the time I had to leave school go to work. What was your first job? Oh, I did a lot of blood jobs to the neighbors you know, in between time cultivating their vegetables and that sort of thing and weeding. But an October of 1920 Richard kindly the father of this present time meeting, started up the garage there. Guarantees garage and I worked for six months was in there and there wasn't too many cars 60 Odd Ford Model T and two Chevrolet and for Oldsmobiles which the cars on the island and of course by spring March I guess it was trying to get in for the slack wasn't much to do. So that left me out. And I worked around got the job on the road. If he says no then there'd be so much money granted for a road and everybody on that road would get there so it's work and then No thank you 22 or 23 I did a bit of blogging, following and bucking for all the Garner at your Wakelin a night. And then there was a crusher started up and you get Jordan the summer. You used to work the summer time for generally from June July till October. And I remember October 23 as boys used to go down to a cushy Lake and swim there at noon de la we swam right into October and the water is getting kind of cooled just as the Japanese earthquake and they said that they did change the Japanese current and we were going to have some or all of the New Rome but it it was dry that November I remember that and Sunday when did you have a Chinese working with you? I never did granola you said you lost a finger. You said he lost a finger in the sawmill. Oh that was another fella with the same name I've worked in but over on Vancouver Island that put the bus totally DC voted no that was later on 1925 I got a job working for justice sawmill down on the main road here. I worked there for a couple of months I guess I ran the I counted for a while and then around the edge. They were cutting

Unknown Speaker 8:25
two and three quarter by eights for the special orders like Spark has a nice bunch of buzz words they earn Oh in the spring of 2524 I went to Victoria

Unknown Speaker 8:47
and I got in the garage there for a couple of months. This business kind of petered out we keep going off on a holiday and he lost most of his customers and he went on making radio cabinets etc. So there wasn't much doing I went out to metocean and work for a farmer there cuz he got his crop in solid wood fine with the strikes off. Then that lets me out. I got into Victoria again. I got the dairy to work in loading the scout. Long Short is missing out and there was nothing else doing. So I came back home did a bit of work. And then the new piece of road was to be put in. We were to we put in the approach to back through a lake public road into there. It wasn't actually a road it was more of a train because it's quite steep and when that was through

Unknown Speaker 10:20
I guess I worked Yeah. And just the smell. And then after that Oh, before I went in, got the smell I guess I love Victoria. I had another job there. I went down again in August, or end of July, August. I went down there, and I got a job in an open garage on Johnson Street. Morons they called it New Delhi. Cars stored there overnight, you know, people that did come in. I had to look after that. Then my brother he got tired to stay at home Lee come down to me and we both went out to the prairie for the harnesses, which is where Saskatchewan and we had rough weather there. We've got 16 days work in six weeks. Done with weather like this grating and the boss says, Well boy, this is like 10 I haven't gotten the work to for you to do while the thrashing is drying up. And he says I can't afford to keep you. But he says if you're here when it dries up, he says I'll hire her again. But he said otherwise I got nothing for you to do. So we packed up and came home. Well we got into Moose Jaw and we found those hundreds going back home with the same thing all over you.

Unknown Speaker 12:12
So we came back home that went to read the clams with the nether talent had a boat. We didn't make very much out of it.

Unknown Speaker 12:29
He wants to work in a logging camp and he brought the bus up one day and he wanted me to go out worked in dangerous but finally I went to work to do and work. I worked there till they shut down and have me come home again. Working at home the farm under the outfit. He came up one day one may go falling with him you see come by. So we went down the Burgoyne Bay and we hadn't logged there Dubai it was and we failed, peeled the logs and rolled them with a couple of Gilchrist Jacks you see and then they'd start down the hill because he's like, go like an express string to the right into the water some of them by the seventh of August, the sapid set made it too hard to peel they wouldn't feel easy. So that led me on and in the meantime, he wound up these laws. Eventually I got paid. And that fall I went to work for Cushing Cove mill they were building a big bunkhouse there. And my neighbor got the job for building the chimney. So I went as the pad man you see carry bricks mix mortar flame. And we built the chimney and I asked about the job at the same time. And then in January, this should be about December and January. Before that for me to go down and work. I worked there in January and part of February. And of course I went swimming one day on the log rolled over. There wasn't a choice

Unknown Speaker 14:54
I went up right to the boiler room and changed my clothes and went on working on I got the flu, and I got a bad cough that I couldn't get rid of. In the meantime they had got a new yard man, you yard foreman, and another superintendent, the other, the original superintendent and left for New York. This yard form, we're gonna have me go and do overtime, like, work on the planer tailing the planer. And I and another young fellow, we both worked on the pond during the day, good seats. And we were telling the planer and his father was the planer man and work up code nearly midnight. And one night he come around, we were there. Oh, it only takes one title that Leonard young Johnny got out right away and left me to do it. Well, that planer was the fastest on the coach. They told me the faster and Sidney mills. The Norwegians that was there, there was a lot of Swedes and Norwegians, they were they're piling the number at you and tell this planer and take that plank off and put it on a yard truck that come along, take the yard truck and pilot the pie up. Well, if you've missed one, and you had to drop that plank, because the next one was there, and I worked for all I was worse. And a couple of Norwegians come along take the flanker take to detail that planer and they weren't allowed to help me get it they were just on their own. However, the belt broke, and it would have passed tender. So Chamberlain says should well he says by the time I get this belt fixed, it'll be quittin time anyway, it's been midnight. It says we'll call it off for today. So I went in the office because I hadn't been getting this overtime. You see, I went in the office to report to the timekeeper that I was putting in this time and the foreman name was Magnus and he was a big sweet while you were doing in here broken down he went out of there like a strict swearing. And I never didn't get that overtime. Although I reported this then. I never went back on overtime at all. But this cost bothered me. I couldn't get rid of it. So I told the superintendent that said they'd like to go home for two or three days and get rid of it. He said yeah, you go ahead. He certainly come back when you're ready. So when I got old right, I went back on a Monday morning. And in the meantime the silver had gone to Vancouver on a business trip and it put a young fellow in my place on the moon and none right sure like you're back on the boom he said but he says I got the whole last Milan my hands say they've discontinued making less. It has now got that crew on my hands to keep full so he says I'm sorry I can't take this. I'd like to get that young fellow there but he says he's a friend of the troopers and he put him there so I can't do anything about it. So I went back home time notes were just coming in small portable time and after a week or two I got a job on one of those

Unknown Speaker 19:11
right near home usually five or 10 cents an hour or more what I was getting down at the Cushing Cove had the board down there you see and pay your board there do I board to get home paid my mother instead mill How did you get to the mill from home walk Whoa, there wasn't that Stuart road through there now you walk through the bush from the under cushion late before we used to come down the badasses and go with just read this and he spoke to the male he was working down you see

Unknown Speaker 19:59
about A month later they phoned up for me to go back to the middle and I told them I couldn't very well go I didn't have a phone then but for use the phone to the neighboring scene, they brought me a message and I'd gone from back. I told him I said, No, I'm working right near home. I've got a good job here. isn't worth my while coming down there. Who is just as well I didn't go because in June they have 2 million feet of green Hemlock and Balsam lumber on the dock, ready for loading the ships. And they are the horse by them to drag these trucks around instead of men. Incidentally, they've heard the doc start in the creek and quiver a bit so they then drove the horse off they just cut him off on the whole works when did the drink and of course green Hemlock and bollocks muddled sunk to the bottom. I might as well mentioned before that that with this Magnus and then Foreman there one day when the vote came in those 24 Swedes and Norwegians marched off they just quit the job they wouldn't stand it snowing which occurred

Unknown Speaker 21:28
well let that metal finally shut down. And I went to work on the road. A bit yes, I worked part time and then part time again later on a couple of months later, we were put through the rainbow extension. And after that, we wrote scar on the Moche point there they had a dock for loading scone with Kai's Truck to bring the tiles in and we'd load the scopes there. Now we'll get that up 2627 Then I got a job in the middle of Ketu up in the cranberry and I worked there for over a year and I got to I twisted an ankle last about a week around Easter 28 And I went back to work and apparently got a slugger in my knee from Milan Italy and it first you're gonna didn't pay proper attention to it you see they're all showed up and I had to go to the doctor and she said well you've got septic poisoning but boy that left me out there was 10 days I guess before she allowed me to walk on the lake or it swelled up and finally it healed up when I went back to work they had another color working there so I didn't bother I got a job load another skull for somebody else got my god

Unknown Speaker 23:50
then the known said leave quite a slush pile in the summer, you couldn't burn slugs, etc. So some people were cutting wood and I want to help them cutting wood. And one fella was he asked a bit which became wrote for me. I went to work for him and we cut to flood wood. And then one day the road department come along he says I want a couple of men for much British mountain road. They want a couple of girls down there. So you guys made the golden you see that was all right with the fella was working with. So I went we had to come down there. We're in camps. This would be along in the summer. Yeah. With the oil the road just in the early part of this summer. And that was later on I worked all through August and September, went on into October there

Unknown Speaker 25:18
then there was just odd jobs used to get. Finally, depression that second. We signed up in September 13th. One I think it was for the relief work. And we get two or three days a month. What much by that time we were only getting two bits an hour. I guess in the meantime, I caught fire once you try to bits an hour and you are compelled to go whoever you wanted to or not, you didn't go they could trap you in the jail and charge you with the cost of the fire. And I don't know what else. Where was that? Where.

Unknown Speaker 26:24
Yes, we went along like that until or worked off the non first odd people cutting pulp wood, there is a certain amount of bulk wood cut piling here and there, we get fewer jobs, maybe last week, maybe two to three weeks and so on. Then when it was pretty tough, and we were on direct relief, I owe the bill at the store. And I get the day's work from them the well. I got two days, three days in one month, when I come back for Direct Relief and told the relief officer well he said you can get that amount a month you you didn't come back you have in your own canoes. So I have the seat. The road for me says Why aren't you out this month? And I told him this is what you tell them for. When you tell them you've gotten the work for us. It's one of the pride didn't they know darn well, a lot of wood. So I didn't want to be caught that way someone's been caught you know, doing that work and not reporting it. However, I went to work for my neighbor, he was cutting steak bolts. And he was a poor payer. And finally I got fed up and quit and I went into relief work again. What do you want relief work for? What do you been doing? Well, I told him I said what this is that fellows coming in here every week get this relief and says he isn't doing any work. He says we'll fix him and that got me into a row with him. I came down with talent on him that he had big contracts and all that sort of thing. Never got another nickel out of it. He never did pay me

Unknown Speaker 28:48
I finally got to your days relief work. And then

Unknown Speaker 29:00
Oh yes. fella named the brand started up another mill and worked there for some time and he was operating on a shoestring. It was hard to get paid. And

Unknown Speaker 29:20
my neighbor the carpenter supposedly an engineer, he had a barn to build. So he and my brother went to work with him and the sperm gum and poultry

Unknown Speaker 29:43
Oh, I got a few other days and in the other milk when Amanda be shorter, sicker or something I'd gone replaced him with quite a few medals around that time. Five or six of them And then they moved off over to Vancouver Island from McMillan blow down. This was senior nails Actually, Mr. Singer died. And his son Howard took over. And he was killed unloading a tractor in new ones mustard, Caterpillar tractors, you dump loads in a tough a flat car, they turned over on him, killed him and that kind of knock things on the head. But no one at that time was a partner in singer. And from then on, he went ahead while the other notes moved off the island, but I didn't go with them. And in the late 30s James Brooks Brothers, it used to be James Canadian seeds, they run a mill. And they had a dope St. Mary's Lake, and they moved up into the cranberry. And we're setting that up and I got a job with them help them set up the mills. I can't, yeah, well, it was up on the right road. They're just dumping boats here. They were operating on a shoestring they had trouble, they were using your marine motors, that coupled cooling it see. So the decide the project the Packard motors, they had fairly good success with it. But they got behind them their orders, and they weren't able to fulfill it. And finally, they cut us down on wages. And finally they had to shut down

Unknown Speaker 31:57
I forget what happened then.

Unknown Speaker 32:05
I went off, I got a drag saw and I went off cutting wood for people. And they just make a little better and wages. And that was all.

Unknown Speaker 32:19
And a lot of hard work. And I was cutting wood when the war broke out. And of course I'd been in the 16 Scottish militia.

Unknown Speaker 32:33
And or I work for the odd people, the old people are good to go split word for them. And several I used to go through every week you do the first one and get the odd carpentry job. Things like that.

Unknown Speaker 33:00
At 42, I was called up to go to war. And they give me just 24 hours to go and get into the doctor. And otherwise they do all sorts of things into the urine. I went down to the doctor and he he checked me over I knew I couldn't get past the next raid zero and one choice late. And I got past younger doctors and Victoria by keeping my mouth shut. And when he got through with me, he says Well, as far as I'm concerned, you're going to stay at home. However, you have to fill out forms and send them in. And if you just need legitimate, legitimate reason for not going you have to state it. And I told them that I was the only one round there for accounting this whole bunch because all the young people had gone and now it's all to a system to work for the simple defense.

Unknown Speaker 34:19
It took him six months to get around to tell me I wasn't medically fit. But that didn't excuse me from another medical exam if necessary. I never heard from them again. And in the meantime, I had cattle and sheep and between them and the odd things I was kept pretty busy. I had no customers I had more cattle and sheep than I could feed from what I could grow So I had to hire pasture. You see, my next door neighbor's one of them the sun had gone, gone joined up, and they moved in the Ganges and so I rented their property and run my sheep on there and cut the hay they heard. That's when Johnny Bennett, he was discharged from a disability of some time. He didn't go through the war and see that he was discharged and he was working for a local truck driver. I get to get him to haul the hay well, it went on for a while. Oh, in the meantime, I got to job working odd times for the pipeline. You see the water where you run Maxwell Lake. Whenever they had a bad leak that come from Aegis, they can help repair the pipe. And I got I was working fairly steady for them. Fellas they had working about 21 morning from the dead. He just had his breakfast and he sat down and died. I forget what his name was. He lived on Rainbow Road I went on with that kill 46 all in the meantime, I get the odd job. Sharpening lawnmowers, the Ganges garage, he has a lot more machine than I used to go in there and sharpen them whenever they came in. They were pretty well all real mowers and nose easy. And I got 50 cents. And he got 75 cents because he had the machine shop. And in the meantime, I wash cars Simonize them, polish them and so on and help him with repairs if necessary. And that pretty well filled things in. He had during the time when I was working in the time mills. He'd had quite a bit of business. And he got a boy in the seat at work. And it got so that these boys had got so they were moving out in various jobs. And he says How about come back to work for me study. So in October of 46 I went back again Never thought I'd worked the last six months was a great work the first six months were in there. And I worked through right through the winter going out putting chains on in the snow for some of these people that got stuck on the hills and then they did so dear servicing cars all over the place.

Unknown Speaker 38:29
One morning I was just getting ready to go to work when the phone rang. Colin mod says that he heard from Charlie tiny and I'd said no. Nice as well. I'm sorry uncle died last night. That was the Bochy, Richard Coinbase mullet garage. So I said I'm coming down anyway. And so I went down, opened things up and got to work. I carried on there for them.

Unknown Speaker 39:05
He had been intending to retire soon and he was training me so that I'd be able to take over the whole works. Well, it happened that govern more to see Mrs. Toynbee with govern more assisted, they decided that they'd sell the business rather than carry it on. Again the meantime while it was getting ready for sale, they had the appraiser come in and it was appraised at $10,000. It's the stock and all the garage chat happened to belong to Mort really. And he was just renting it.

Unknown Speaker 39:52
However, a fella dropped and he thought he'd liked to buy it.

Unknown Speaker 40:01
But he didn't have quite money enough and he couldn't raise enough on his soldier pension you see. So he talked about it and then he went off and in the meantime the loggers should commend we're repairing logging equipment to easy as well as cars have now two lanes. They're the biggest, the two biggest slaves in the village. Now one logger dropped in and I said to him, like go to the place of just sales. Would you like to buy it? And you said, Well, he says I'm thinking about it, he says and thinking about it. And he eventually bought it. So he had me continue working with him. And I wasn't much on welding. All right for acetylene welding, but I hadn't bothered with the electricity I've been too busy to bother with the electric welding. So he got in this other color that he come by malcolmson and he ran the welder and he could also run the lathe he was an expert at all of those and use an expert welder and he attended to the park while I attended to the rescue see, also in the meantime, we had the agency for the island freight and bonded for liquor you see from the liquor store in Victoria, there was no liquor store here. It's some by luck to handle the slicker man all the log mores that came in all the orders for the island freight and it's getting solid too. It was quite a job to handle the whole word. I'd have to keep leaving off every once in a while to go and handle this freight business. So Alec brought in a boy and he said you let him do the lawn mowers while you work on the car

Unknown Speaker 42:36
Oh, before that, I like had been up a spark tree. And with one leg raised the cable broke or something or they came down you see it started to turn and came down towards the donkey. So the his brother was tightening up the guy wire done the donkey and he couldn't do a thing because it was the first time God was let go. And it came over towards him while he managed to ride around to the top of the tree as it come down but it put me or killed him, shattered his skull and broke one arm on the leg. And he finally recovered and later he got this boy in. I went to work that winter. He went to report the eighth and I was working there that oh we had a lot of snow. And one morning I started out with you used to go down Monday morning. I had to cut off a little bit not work a full week there. That's too much to do at home. And I used to go down Mondays and Tuesday and one Monday morning I want to start out Nick with snowing so hard you couldn't keep the windshield clean. You couldn't see the road. So I stayed home I didn't go and timber there was two feet of snow by three o'clock in the afternoon when they quit and I had half a dozen sheep down the throat. So I went down and got them brought them home the next morning I went down to to work Alec had the whole crew in the back working on logging equipment. And when I walked in it it doesn't look like you need me today I like and he says no he says I don't need you but he says it Bob Niger you go to work. So I went dead and Bob in this kid. We're working on the car. Do you need me today Bob? He never looked up for a second word. So I waited a minute and then asked him again. And he didn't say anything adults. So I just walked off and I kept my coveralls and my tools and I walked out, never went back. Later, he was wishing I was back there. And I want to work on the pipeline again

Unknown Speaker 45:26
the winter of 4849 The boss went to England to see his old father before he died. So he had me run the work myself wasn't quite such a job as they got no today and wasn't too many customers. So I run that through January until the middle of February, when he came back. There was quite a lot of snow on the ground when he arrived back and stayed till nearly March before it left. And

Unknown Speaker 46:13
I worked on through with him the pipeline until 1950. I did manage to get a bit of a raise every once in a while, but I had to really work for it, you know, to get it

Unknown Speaker 46:35
you still have your animals to do yes. And deliver milk every morning, milk cows, all that work in the garage there. Some nights it was 11 o'clock for I could get away. They did say just to manage I want to help with this network there. He has no animals to feed, and I get home at 11 o'clock and then have to go milk and feed the cattle and sheep. They're not again at six in the morning and go and milk the cows and get put the milk in bottles and deliberate on my way to work. So this time of the year, Easter 1950. My son got a job falling in the bushes. They want me to go with him, you see. So the two of us what fallen we got a chainsaw, and like falling and bucking as well. We weren't going to shepherd hills there. And I left it was better wages you see were paid contracts and much better wages than working on the pipeline. While I were to that, until I got hurt in October and went on compensation till the end of the year, what happened? What happened there? What happened? Or add a kickback from the chain side it tore a muscle in my back into three joints out of line. And it was really bothering me and the doctor says well he says I can't do any more for you. It says see what the Compensation Board did do that Oh gee. In the meantime, it got further I had a bad pain every time I took a deep breath and I told him about it and he said I said well as the any objection to me gone to Victoria to a man I know there and the certificate will help get you go ahead. He was a Swedish massage. So I went down to him and he says No wonder you got paid. He said you got three joints out of line here. And this was burning on a nerve for some time. He says Now I'll lift it for details I won't be able to tell until the inflammation goes down if it's truly a mind shift you might have to come back so a week after I went back and he kept up and he said you're always lying. No. Then finally the Compensation Board got around to telling me to go to Vancouver. And I had to arrange for my Katelyn can be looked after I went to

Unknown Speaker 49:34
oh, there was a lot of something going on there. They had poor mid level. They couldn't do anything without it. Doctor hadn't sent it. Well, I had to come back home. I went to see the doctor here with my first compensation check in the mail. They can't send that out till they get form 11 and The doctor said, Well, I took it over to him and told him and he says, it's too early to tell make a note again, if it will make them happy. So that sent him three already.

Unknown Speaker 50:11
So I said, Can I take it with me? He said, Yeah. So I took it the next week when I went.

Unknown Speaker 50:20
Finally, they told me that I had to go back to work, he says, are the dumb, examined 1000s of backs like yours, and you'll always have that pain, you go back to work he does, or else you stiffen up. He didn't tell me I had arthritis, I didn't know mature z, but I knew I had pains every once in a while. It got so I couldn't sleep more than a few hours. And since then, I've never been able to sleep a full night. However, he says, we'll pay for a high heeled soul on that short leg of yours. But he says to you go back to work. He said your compensation will be cut off the end of the year. And he said you send us the bills that you pay the bill for that high yield soul and we'll pay the bill. Well, it took more work to get that bill paid and my expenses back and forth down to than what it was worth. And I cried twice. I'm sure the next time I did my own work

Unknown Speaker 51:50
I finally went back to work for the waterworks again. And I worked through they decided to put in a new line to the lake well they had to because the old one was getting so rotten and just would fight disease getting so rotten that you didn't dare shut it off if you'd shut it off that fix the leak quite diverse somewhere else. So we had to fix a leak toilet water was running pretty cold in winter. They put a new line on I work this pad man on the power shovel that does the ditch. This is a big one you know bigger than these backhoes dump the ditch right up to Mach two lake from Ganges and I got a few odd jobs in between afterwards was much going on the line then. After we got that new piping. The next summer they decide to put it out to all during the winter. We did ditching for the farmers with this power shovel, you see. And I worked on this pad man on there, whereas the rest of the crew had gone back to Vancouver to another job. And in the spring, I get the odd jobs here and there. What year are we up to now? What year would that be about making the 60s to be 52 when they put out 51 And then 52 They put the pipeline from Ganges harbour hunks, I guess it was from Harbor hooks right through to Vesuvius and you will die and I worked on that and then after that we work for the Public Works widening the road and loading trucks with this changing seat for a new piece of road. And I still worked at padman under a new operator on the other side same outfit Christian Anolon that contracted for it and then we use the dragline to put another long ditch in for a farmer somewhere and then

Unknown Speaker 55:11
At 53 I got odd jobs I went to work for the surveyor

Unknown Speaker 55:19
and Edwin will know that and that was only part time work. So in the meantime I had to fill in with other odd jobs took up the gardening and so on. And I worked in the Centennial Park there, did quite a bit of work there, put in posts, row posts, and mowed, planted trees and mowed the first lawn that was mowed there. Jack James brought his more down and mowed all that and fertilize it nice seated I don't know what that was I hadn't done good

Unknown Speaker 56:15
I mowed lawns for other people and did garden work and then between I'd go and work for the surveyor

Unknown Speaker 56:31
I carried that on working odd jobs until 76 I guess it was no 71 I left off surveying all together because I could get a better wages doing the garden work and so on and he wasn't paying very much but

Unknown Speaker 57:07
yes, I work for doctors and dentists. So on did their garden work and I only had one or two days off on a week that I worked for myself. Right up till 72 Maybe 73 And then I'd only do the odd jobs here in there. Or once in a while I got word for a neighboured Another time I sell a bunch of trees for summer for putting in the garage you you place and he had these trees cut up for longer you see

Unknown Speaker 57:50
there in about 72 I guess it was I retired. Got my old age pension and my Canada Pension. And I don't really do the occasional work when someone got stuck. And

Unknown Speaker 58:15
since then, I've just done off, off and on jobs. Thank you very much Ted. Yeah.