SBI (Saltspring Bureau of Investigation )


Is it 1885 or 1887?
Is it a consecration or a wedding?

New evidence from Emily is shaking Salt Spring History

The bell was bought in 1887

Ledger of Troy New York 1887

 

Link to St. Paul

New evidence from Emily is shaking Salt Spring History


I was always under the impression that this photo was taken when the church
was consecrated in 1885. Of course, I wasn't there! The bell may have been
purchased a couple of years later. Are you sure there's a bell in the tower
shown in the photo?

Charles


The bell is in the steeple, the enlargement shows that.
http://saltspringarchives.com/stpaul/pages/bell.htm


I love the logo!
Too busy to consider the question properly at the moment (re bell, St. Paul's 1885 or 1887)
Love the evidence.
Usha

Maybe it's a consecration of a new bell...
Usha


Bob Akerman swears the picture is the consecration of the church. To me it looks more like a wedding party.
Barb L.


1885? I don't think so... but must dig a little deeper into some dates.

I agree with Barb about the wedding. In fact, there may even be more than
one bride and groom in the picture. Why all the bouquets and boutonniere? At
that time the priest was not resident on SSI and given the clergys'
misadventures on the water this may be a photo of the marriages that took
place on a spring visit - "caching up"...

The cemetery is already fenced with some headstones... will check the burial
records.

There is no evidence of a bell or cross on the old butter church (source of
many of St. Paul's building materials). Could check with St. Anne's...

I have contacted the diocese in Victoria and hope to visit their archives to
look at the records.

Will keep you posted!
Emily


From: <mailto:jackwoodward@woodwardandcompany.com>Jack Woodward
To: <mailto:news@gulfislands.net>news@gulfislands.net
Cc: <mailto:woodward.e@gmail.com>Elizabeth Woodward ; <mailto:blouise@saltspring.com>Louise Woodward ; <mailto:ehepburn@telus.net>ehepburn@telus.net ; <mailto:kallimachos@gmail.com>kallimachos@gmail.com ; <mailto:trichards@gulfislands.net>trichards@gulfislands.net ; <mailto:robertreindl@gmail.com>robertreindl@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 6:23 PM
Subject: St. Paul's church bell inscription
Editor, the Driftwood,
Attention Gail Sjuberg
Dear Gail,
Yesterday (July 28th) Derrick Lundy took some dramatic photos of the lifting of the steeple and bell from St. Paul's church in Fulford. This provided an opportunity to record the inscription on the 120-year-old bell. 
CUM MELODIA ILLIUS AURIBUS
INSONUERIT POPULORUM
INSULAE FONTIS SALSI CRESCAT
IN EIS DEVOTIO ADEI
SANCTUS PAULUS
PATRONUS ECCLESIAE
G.T. DONCKELE, PRESBYTER
A.D. 1887
I sent the Latin to my friend Brian Moss, a Ph.D. student in Classics at Exeter College, Oxford, and have received the following translation:
When the melody of this [bell] sounds in the ears
of the people of Saltspring Island,
may their devotion to Him grow.
Saint Paul
Protector of the Church
G.T. Donckele, Presbyter
In the year of our Lord, 1887
Brian Moss has provided a very detailed monograph about the nuances of the translation and the historical origin of this inscription, noting, among other things, the similarity with words found in a paper by Giacomo Baroffio titled Pontificalia & Ritualia Italica. Brian also noted the following:

"One line that might be of interest to you is insulae fontis salsi. I translate this above as "Saltspring Island", but it literally says "the island of the salt spring". It is interesting that the author decided to translate the elements of "Saltspring" into Latin rather than simply Latinising the name. "
We will make the full monograph that Brian Moss prepared available to the Salt Spring Archives and for the use of the congregation of the St. Paul's church. Indeed, the Driftwood may want to publish it in full, but it will take half a page. It is very interesting, and full of amazing detail and curiosity that you wouldn't expect at all!
Yours truly,
Jack Woodward
155 McPhillips
Salt Spring