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I believe that he got his toothpicks from Saltspring 60 foot logs that squared four feet. He was loving with oxen. You know how many tons that love would weigh. You do the calculation on board measure, there's over 6000 feet in that log, and logged or five times 1000 that love would weigh 30 tons. How would he pull that with oxen?

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And this goes on

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to the next page.

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Yeah, well, that's reference number can review. Yeah, yeah, it didn't refer to actually to that. And I mean, they might have been very well once seaward failed

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to tell right into the water somewhere. I mean, maybe I shouldn't have put the boat in the same paragraph.

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But 60 foot logs if you don't have the culprit, into the fold. And above the door is a picture of Ronnie Lee's father's cousin moving logged in 1914. And there's ordinary low 24 to 40 feet. 60 foot low and 66 square to the Boomsday. But then they were very seldom ever more than 1618 which is a very different thing. Tend to the weight of that particular load. That's why I jumped into this one. Because they were loaded with oxygen. And it would take a DA

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I mean, it wasn't Charlie that told me that they were that safe.

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Yeah, but DHF would have trouble you already. Yeah. That's where I took exception. Okay,

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that's fine. Yeah. Great. That's the sort of thing I wouldn't think

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that I hold enough love. I went down from my place one time with my little single axle Merkin or tandem cradle with 5000 board feet. And that was about 20 times. I was retitled truck, truck and trailer. I have a picture of it at home. And Ronnie Lee is standing on the back of the truck behind the cab and a peek log it from his head up on its fourth quarter

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this stone business there was still some evidence of that just this site of Ruth Haney on the site, it was all down to that one time and you see where they split the rock seams and then slid down and they loaded it onto barges

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it was just you've probably never heard of it because there's a call road called last road which leads off from quarry drive to just over here and that subdivision that's Scotland something yeah well last room well named because it will be the last remaining desert because you go to the seaside it just

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rained down there Yeah, yeah. But I was only ever down there looked at it one

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mining I know nothing. I do know about the shaft up on Mount Maxwell. In the Oh. And there's another one. There's two more shaft down to the water. One that Rachael was telling below. If you're wondering there's one out on the boat on Isabella point towards a pebble on the other side, on the south facing west facing east Oh yeah. So it's

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like corporate harbourside round yeah he's got

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multiple road map or capture and down on it on the right hand side as you go out to where the lows had the logo on the right hand side of the road

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below that's amazing. I've never heard

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willows Yeah, no, they love their and.

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Hello, I don't know.

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Probably the yellow.

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I don't know. I don't know what they were talking about at all. So he was here in 4948 50 as mad rush talk

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to you lately, because he's he did the login sort of the war because we just thought we were doing it right up to the present and a lot of that would be lost when you're gone.

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Because, yeah,

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very little of it was ever recorded.

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But yeah, well the first steam donkey came here 1928 In fact, the only thing that I knew came here in 2012. My name is Mike Luma, Mitch. And Bill Morrison was one of the partners. That was Mike, Bill Marcus and a fella by name and Mickelson and a fella by name has grown.

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What happened Mickelson was wrong.

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And worse, Morrison refused to leave. He stayed and worked for wages that Nicholson has drawn, which is strong if you remember the little cabin at the foot of the hill below our place towards Damascus, where you were in Blackburn road and turn right a little orchard on the left there's a log cabin there, that was much cookout. That first crop was lived and operated a cookout and they left the island or somewhere around 1930. And then there was another person who came in they run the Coco's. And then Mike weightlifting 36 Doki went to the last setting, I remember in working on aqueducts, the Cranberry Road, that before you turn down into communities place as far as we stood there from any oversight, yeah. Bill Hitchcock's plated just below on the corner there. But he did a setting up at artplay just below our place in 1935. Lloyd Reynolds folder with a 35 to John Ford, or some big timber in there. My mother, some are 35 years to cook dinner for my lunch for my kids at render time so we wouldn't have to quit and go and get lunch my mother would have to get nobody trusted. Mike. My mother got the money from Mr. Eaton and

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Mike, you see so long as long as they say dramatically so the author over Gilbert and the store financier with the operation, because he has its own. Yeah, I didn't know if people I know the urges to find kids ice cream. Y'all picks you up your little grasshopper?

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, grasshopper. That's right.

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Firebase piping. So yeah.

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We're missing already bought the kids ice cream. And they were a kid went in that store. Michael Morgan was there that kid got nice. We didn't matter. They keep going. He would run down on the highway in 1966. And

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just corner laterally

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across whose leg lumber trying

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Jake Parker bought all the property from him and gave him life tenancy. And then in 66, he was walking to church on a Sunday night. With a little flashlight you put your head to light a match to see if the flashlight was burning. And he walking down the center line. Always did and the police told him and told him don't walk the centerline and walk on the edge of the road. That's alright he said let her go. When are you going to Ganges and there was a car coming towards him and he stepped off the center line into the path of the car with the headlights coming behind him never saw you wearing dark clothes 66

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We were waiting

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yeah

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now here's another one

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might care

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how much you marked up?

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I know Bob eight grand for Logan Burgoyne Valley well before the turn of the century in the winter months he would fall trees near the creek and use it even more often for the log in the creek. Father helped at a very young boy the longer floated down and Fulford harbor for shipping to a mill. You'd never float and he looks down that creek Paul

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apparently used to dam up don't believe that with new

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new create too much this way. If you're fresh out there, you might get one logo with a surge of water The dam the dam would be there

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well suppose they met just above the just a little bit up the high tide comes in action up a bit you probably saw it a few logs down if you're too close if you're above

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it they own right down to the water.

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No, no

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no Pharaoh

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yes thorough Yeah and

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also Jimmy Jimmy Rogers Rogers had the car saloon there so they would have owned probably the crew I

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very much question that is to procreate and to straight even flow Yes. When it goes like this, you know, little ponies and so on. With a log did get partway down the creek and we did one

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day there was a log jam. Exactly.

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And the only time you get any water in the creeks in the wintertime after a big snow when everything melts and fills a creek up and then it wouldn't be enough to float

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down as well as taking

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but that is kind of thing it's I think it's word of mouth of gifts embellish

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I know it's very tricky when you get a lot of

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but it does not doesn't ring true to you doesn't ring true to me. No, no, no. We made they make love bribes and rivers that's just a creek

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even more excited I can't read my own writing costs

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Did you know that this copper business here donor records when they dug the holes for the hydro poles to go down the path record that they found a rich copper vein and one of the holes and one of the folks that work there quickly when to file a claim on her new claim Oh

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well that was fairly recently

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within the last 30 years

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yeah because the hydro didn't go down there to the 50s did it

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well this was in the 60s when this

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happened. I don't think it even went down to Patterson store

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union Peter got power but you repeated were married 1945 and they didn't have power.

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No, we didn't have it out to the rainbow. So when did we get there? No 50 year Jeremy

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our game in Rainbow 37

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Now it came from Uncle Gavin's partner fader This is the Nike relator one was I didn't when they put that was the second one. The first one to do going came over to the Soviets from the North

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Dakota namely utilities

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Yeah, I came across there but this was I think this was the

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second okay. Okay the second row okay. So the 1944 When I came back to the army, very often you had letter match to help the electric light bulb that you're reading

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and here we are more mining

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is quite often came from. Some of them came from Mr. Wilson. Some of them came from the Department of Mines with things like three, three

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I remember the name of Mr. mania has gone to school come to our place in the 1943 day there were 42 that I never knew that brother. It was long longer for that was making

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bread Holly been at the log jumping to the head of corporate harbor yet true. somebody were to open it up again and the upland landowner wouldn't have any further. And you know that recently? Well. What I don't love there in the early 60s.

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I remember driving along logging back to

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get his logs up the mountain

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was a Chinese fellow there in 1940 went over from the town with a GMC truck and board and they were coming off the mountain. And then McCabe had his own logging truck to

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deliver his own logs. He bought the logs.

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Now that I can't say whether he bought the timber and loaded or whether he bought logs from loggers or whatnot, I don't know. But I know that came down the mountain and turned down into the mill on the waterfront. And then he sold out in about 1946. To McDonald and Clark

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Yeah, yeah.

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I used to hold ties to Victoria

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for them for the feel McAfee mail. All they have to do

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later than that, because McAfee bought that 46 DMC

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Well, Garni was here until after 1952. He was still there still now.

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I don't remember the same time now.

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I was very close to Bill maker. We had the one Gordon Gordon built the first

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one and then Bill Shaw.

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Harry Hayden, who used to live here below shows that two below shows if somebody has a daycare there. That's right.

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And at one time deaf Bradley's parents were there later where they

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Trafford's you remember the name traffic? Yes.

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He had that, too. Was that the same? One that Bill McAfee? Yeah. He was the no player

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whose son was killed. But it was they were on the island in 1940 41.

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Yeah. They built the house down on the lower Venice road. Kathleen Ressler didn't know. And then Ross young bought that and Trafford moved up to Bill McAfee's house.

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Did he buy from Bill Mac?

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That I couldn't say? It was a lot of time McCabe left the Trafford went in there what Trafford

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was here in the lorry? Yeah, I remember they never I don't remember that because I just remember Mother told me that they'd lost her boy. See, he would never lifted Saltspring

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No, no, no, they came here. No, but

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he's he was called, for instance, and there's a book that records all the deaths from assaults. We've never, we've never noticed a moment. Just recently I found a note looking back at

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Old Trafford came here and built the house to Kathleen respo to now. They moved from there to where Bill McCabe

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after Bill Macri left 4526 Yes.

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Remember the old McAfee's very well?

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Yeah, well, McAfee ran the mill up until then. Then they moved up to Wally twirl around the mill for a long time whether he rented it from McDonald or what I don't know. But I hold tight and welcome points from him too. And I went logging in 49 That would have been in the 4647 Eight years to truck to

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your mind and information

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we just started we got anything written then somebody could come along and correct Yeah

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the whole analysis sawmill I didn't realize that it had been rebuilt after it burnt down the first time. I saw my contract and asked about her now and he said oh yes it was rebuild and burn again in 32 that I don't want to hear about that part of it

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Yeah, I should have gone to see Mrs. She just died next door locks Oh, yeah. Because I think her mother there

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that could be omitted Leon Cain Yeah. When Mike lemma which came here in 28. So I just bought a new GMC logging truck the whole logs for it. He was handed over to trucking for my garbage And might be what he was. He everything was going along nicely. He just got everything down. Stuff work broke all his Partners Group Life justice and he ended up with the whole shebang and five justices truck fanatic and with honor Infoprint Oh yeah, yeah. And Mikey stayed around here till 930 36

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Well, when was fine what was the day from time to turn?

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Well Lumbridge came here in 28 and morgase Scrum and they came here in 2008. And I remember when I was going to schooling we had one this green truck going by the by school rules Yeah. Blackburn road a pasture school. I remember going by there with that I was ashamed. We ran out of the class. You're married pretty with a teacher. Here's a logo coming all the kids out of that door now watch the love and drop of I know we're going to make it easy gonna make it

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now there's a panel standing on that side of the road schools.

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And then that green GMC disappeared. I have no idea what happened to it. And Mike lemon which came up with two old truck was solid rubber tires. Now some of the remained at all thought process behind the Trading Company. Shed for years where the old hotel burned down. One would the gut for Senate one would appoint the trucks that are for the trucks. Yes. solid rubber tires. Trucks. Yes.

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I remember seeing those on solid rubber. And I think the traders didn't have a trainer. That's what I remember seeing

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the annual creating a new shed until the trainee company shed for torn down

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who built those roads to get those trucks into the long

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men with horses and scrapers whether they have a Fresnel when it makes the feel the aroma the front with which went to the horses spreaders and the operator hung on to the handles here and he filled that up. Then he would throw it out. They would tip over. Then they drag it back around again. He grabbed the handle, bring it back over, pick up another load with the horses going ahead, get to where he wanted and then flip it again. And then finally move the dirt to the people park system. They called him the scraper and the bigger ones were called prisoners

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just like a break huge. Only deeper like a snow shovel cloud is just three feet wide.

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That's right.

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That's how Dr. Rush's tennis court was put in

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see I come from a railway logging country myself. Oh yeah. Logging was it all railway?

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You know, when I would get up at home, we could hear the logs being dumped over germaneness we thought we're gonna wear Pittsburgh thunder. But it wasn't it was love going off the trains down below. And the last I saw train loader load not many years ago, going in there by Lady Smith was making

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noise ladies, Mr.

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Lee's on a few years but the old highway used to go right through the main drag of ladies now. But then they cut.

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His father works. People ended up

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at the top there and then the old engine was sitting on the side of the road. Yeah, well, since that road had been put in they were still loading with trains going into their

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crowds ellerbeck bought them out. Does that mean office Comox logging is still right beside the highway there.

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Yeah. I finally got married Davidson straightened out. I know who she is now. Oh, good. Long time I asked her who she was. Memory going here. Tell me about where you are in me or my own view. I'm 72 next month.

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I'm 73 January are your year old?

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72 Here somebody to you're born in 1903

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Yeah, so yeah. So that that I was born in January. January. So what what are you watching? Oh, that's it.

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Oh my labels. Merry Christmas. Happy Birthday one Britain.

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Have you got a large on any of that to be great? Large on any yeah

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Ronnie Lee remember that first logging come to the island. The previous logging drugs have been convergent

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when he was very upset. There's a picture in Dec 20 his book as far as I know, maybe it's Joe garner

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the Model T Yeah.

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First logging truck but that really upset Ross. Yeah, so I put that in deliberately because Ronnie was so upset.

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And yet it says here it came in 1917 are Hepburn says a hero of a loving broken and Beauford Valley in 1916.

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Or maybe it was a conversion.

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Of course. Every loan broker to convert well,

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apparently that that that one that Ron is talking about was built as a logging truck.

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Because only to frame it a different thing on the back. I guess.

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Some frames made by tech toy Bureau, blacksmith shop. Yeah.

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I think that's what Ronnie.

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Yeah, yeah. We were out running our way out. Past soup one day to the old Carmona light, which is on the side of the road, and there's a museum there. But we went in. And there's a picture of the old love indruk Irani for that? So when my dad wrote great and he asked about it, and I believe that the people out there at the museum got Ronnie a reproduction of the picture. Oh, great.

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What did you think about the yo Garner's remarks about the old house paper a couple of weeks ago.

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I read it, but I didn't pay much attention to

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Well, you see that house was built in a previous book, or Elson tells about his father being so mad because he had to hire the best one the best place to dig the holes in 1928 to build that house. That was house you think of the other house there's another house an older house on that property. But that house, you see the

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COVID 28 yo we gonna go and sign off.

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And the old man just said all he was 2620 that period, but the carnage at all? It was a handouts remember, as far as we're concerned. Alright. Analysts, Director theater.

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Oh, that was they didn't come here until they came as 3536 Yeah, theater over new 30. But we've really good 35 or 36 in the first 37 I think it opened

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something about I don't know if it must have been a beautiful baby or something. That was the first movie showing our knowledge

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37 Because I was going to high school when the theater opened and I started in high school in September 37.

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Our Prime Minister said when they came over and they fixed it up. You weren't.

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Mrs. Hen sister was married to Gosh, I'm thinking what he's saying. And he was a carpenter who worked with him and building that additional theater theater was an addition. It wasn't part of the original house

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and to be torn out.

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Yes, yes. And Mrs. Henry's sister died in childbirth when her son was born, who was Raman young

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German Roy

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Ross and Mrs. Young adopted Raymond when he was born, because her mother died in childbirth. Chris Harrison was the guy's name he was married and Mr. tennis history and he was a carpenter. Pretty well.

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Young was Howard's cousin

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blood cousin yes

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I'm getting Johnny off logging here

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is in other people's heads and

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in 28, that they might glamour mid market steam donkey, this offering and he set it up and down in blackbirds behind Reverend Lake. That's where he started. That's when he worked for me worked there for quite a long time. I was a kid going to school. And one day, we went down in the afternoon after lunch and watched the high river talk to spark arrays for my glamour page. Now, pilings were never stacked on the warps they were putting the water funneled up until they were never shipped by barge it says here the milled mine from pilings and ties well, pilings never worked. They were they were floated out with ties are

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always stacked before they went on. Yeah, of course you

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know we're never we're never shipped on bargains they were floated there's another refer to that. Your fingers

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now grew birch Brinkley wide with a first tractor. I don't know

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that. That's from Charlie. Charlie Horrell

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but I do know that the first bulldozer with a blade of dirt was brought here by the Department of Highways in 1937. A fella by the name of Jimmy Payton. Work for the highway. You drove it and he filled in the old London Bridge and the terminal bridge above where my email is.

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What did you call the London Bridge and the charmer for London

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Bridge? Yeah. And London and in German, which was very

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low just before the crowd with Maxwell road or the turnout some actual people going up. Going up. That

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was the charmer charmer up over the top where he wrote that was the London Bridge. London London Yes. And they were wooden bridges home yeah 37 Jimmy Payton came over with the highways over the cat with a blade on and that was the first blade worked on in 37 and he filled in both of those colors and fill the fill the dirt over with a cab and that was the first bulldozer on the blade.

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They do the same thing now on this road to the same time. Remember there's one just before Kyle's just after you get where he will be that was later yeah.

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So it wasn't necessarily

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on the one down and just pass pushing legs going towards Fulford Yes. Before you come to the road it was him to loosen this place. Yes, it was a little wooden bridge there too. That was filled in about 3536 and how that was done. I don't know Well, that was your fault No, no, that was bring it down. Further down on there too. Obviously, there was a little little bit of a breach there yet, but I forget what year that was filming. But I have an idea was 53 when they changed the road the the road used to go where you turn into Blackburn road. The road used to go in there, make a right hand turn come out to the cushion Lake Road and make another left hand turn or a right hand turn and then make another left hand turn to go into rock crusher quarry and around the corner that was changed in 53 when that was when they filled in there between Blackburn road and the end of Cushing Lake Road that were done in 53

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a painting we got a painting of that what was that was named Scott car I don't really like it because it doesn't mean anything. Better pictures down the paint spring

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51 They rebuilt the road from the corporate end of the quarter leaves and in 53 they continued on the Ganges but they didn't do the extensive work that they did and

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that's the road that's rock crusher corner. Here's the road you live out there

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now Blackburn sorted

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Okay, okay. Elizabeth Blackburn wood coming in here.

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That's okay. I

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remember there was trees. Yeah, well, just around the corner here there was a little bridge and that was filled in about 1935. In fact, from where admitted loosens driveway goes in now. You come towards Blackburn road. You'll see some fruit trees growing. They are really through blood. That's the old approach to the old bridge. And the old footings for the bridge are still there. If you look at it. Okay, I remember those trees now. Yes, yes.

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Well then it was straightened out. It came

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out here and then made illegal left turn here again at pigeon Lake corner and then they came from there straight through behind these trees and straightened it out. But that wasn't done until 53 That's when they redid the road from the twiddle these Hill and that's when they changed the road they're at Edna Fraser where used to go by where Jerry Borden lived the old Martel place and he went around an inch deep stuck every log and went on

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I got stuck with our truck full of lands where they drank it all the way full stop

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stop in a hill many of them 53 They changed over when a route is today

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that's an interesting thing

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to think about that for a while remember those trees were all willing to deploy Hills aren't quite right but we're up on that stage where do you see that blacktop road into this is what was on the road from there towards Ganges on a loop inside there's some fruit trees growing there. You check those trees will find they're going Screwtape Yeah, yeah

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now this is great point. An old Christmas Christmas card I found or Easter Kern Stevens

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that's 9494

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Yeah

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it's quite a few of his paintings around actually. The museum had a very nice one who did the museum. I guess it's still up there. And the wards farm looking across the fields right down Ganges harbour

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there was a lot of changes made in the Fulford Gandy road over the year

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1926 was one day block Crusher opened up the road from behind.

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did away with Yeah, did away with the old Dubai that will provide that terrible feel there. Yeah.

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Have you ever read Johnny Reed's book or article about Saltspring? Got me. Some places

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he used to run a little 30 cat for the highways. And sometimes he would ride the grater with full behind, which is sitting at Central I don't

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know he's one thing he says. Look for this crap all the Japanese stuff. Cheap. All the Japanese was Japanese were in turn. That's not true. I know. Well, I know that. I just have to see are we talking over a lot of old books. And the value of a truck that Dodge truck that God was a cash price was over $2,000 that we paid them $2,000 For because that was a there

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was where there would have been new

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was almost new, a new price. $2,000 Yeah,

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but I say once it's been used is not worth I know. Right?

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I know. But they think we've been 2000 or 2100 families. Yeah.

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That was a Sherman. Put that at 4040 or 41. They were taken away in 42. And I'm trying to think of

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a 41 Because dad would put down the original price and then you know, you'd take off so much a year for depreciation and the original price was still not on the truck but on this was this is a truck and maybe that was the one dodge dodge.

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You remember what happened to that truck? Caster Reynolds bought it and he took the cab off and put it on another Dodge truck which he used for loving that cab Chester put on the old doors that he had sitting on one of the colored guys Victoria and it was all Viga vendors and the doors are off and he put the whole cab on that truck

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deals with Legion. Ivan deals with a lot of these funerals for the Legion. Somebody died.

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Anyway we await a lot Meanwhile with

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rosemary here and Behringer, they dammed up a little lake up there and he had a water powered shingle mill.

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Yeah, I've heard somebody else talk about that too.

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I hunted all over that country that I never saw the actual site of the mill until it will to

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six years ago Well, apparently there's a nurse dam there still right? Yeah, that's right.

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Pipe was very into that. And the water came out on down the hill. Unfair injures Kevin. RoseMarie, one of the other cabinets still there, but it's called on in? Oh, yeah. Just down the hill where the mill site was?

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Yeah, we'll see you. There. How'd you get to

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go up in the car to the road park and walk down? Which Park? On Orchard Park recall. Yeah. And then walk down. Yeah, Park car. Before you get to the lake. There's a little road for you to see. I love sort of their 1949 a couple of loads and I just couldn't do it. It was too much for me. And years later, I went in there and we followed the pipeline down. And we came across the middle side. But it was it was water powered. My dad worked for fingers. Oh, yeah. He fell in love timber up in the cranberry for a long day. And it was another one there that there my dad having a McGregor getting you to go out and cut wood.

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We used to rent one every year. My dad used to rent one. Oh, yeah. But down the beach beach.

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I acquired guy Cunningham's one year a few years back and I was gonna rebuild it and so on but the Magneto was missing. And you know you put things under cover and time went by and you realize you're not going to do anything with them. But one day a guy came along in our 350 bucks board and I said it's yours take it and then when I got from peach Stevens to to

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I'm mad to nobody none of the kids today have any idea what they look like.

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They also don't know that they weighed 300 pounds. And we used to look them around. One guy would take hold of the front of the sheriff and I think they would take the base and leave or walk through the woods when you come to a big log in and you'd set it up and you start cutting wood and as I think was cutting you'd love to cut it off before we would regulate they weighed 300 pounds well they were taking a lawful punishment by adults to study the production but

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if I remember correctly there was on this end down there was something fake when Trump was

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gonna pick onto the price base that's right. Yeah, I had what I had one that I bought years back in 1945 when I bought my first truck I also bought a redstone but that was one of the later ones it only weighed 250 bones if you know the woods boy so not far away. Oh Jerry in Jersey and Tommy.

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Tommy. They used to have on one time Yeah, I know they did some time. I learned a lot about everything they were working Yeah.

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know No, I've never heard of this. That Dave Max was in charge of a capita cranberry outlet where guards or beings had his donkey and I can't say yes or no, it

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was the April

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23. Number 10. Sydney review April 23. Thinking 23 April 23. It says

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I don't know who the local correspondent was.

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Well, it sounds like it might have been 23 with the Euro was born.

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Smith didn't come in that early.

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Engagement. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She was.

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He would have been hearing Yeah.

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Working for the Sydney reviews, yes.

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But she wouldn't do that sort of stuff. That's that's so bad. So Well, was it Mr. Hamilton said he was A 26 year

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old needed to die he died the day before I can solve it because his body was still pretty old to Hamilton no more yes he is he was a correspondent for The couch yeah

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I never knew will you be but he might vote and Claude He was around for years and years after that

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which was what we found was like the it was crippled very badly

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Oh, that was assuredly was wrongly thought of each step up into his shoulder that one is

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Yeah, singers came in to love it wait for less than 20 rows. And it was dubious. They were later on up on the Carter property to way up towards the Michael's feet so my dad worked for them and they weren't they weren't in early colleges place because no while it was. There was another one right at the end of Horrell road over Blackburn's lady with a great big sawdust pile there for donkey's years. We're about right at the end of rural road. Blackburn's late that Spotify layer was there from the time I remember. I don't remember played email set up on Gracepoint

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i don't know i don't know if that ever happened. It was certainly it was.

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I don't know anything about it

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money and upload Canvas looking cool. What in the world? Today? What year? That was trying

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to I think no. That's been the case of turning in the archives.

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That was a what year. First bulldozer a real bulldozer with a blade. When Jimmy Peyton Broder breaking 37 That was a first calf that came here with a blade. This was probably just for hauling logs. And you had to swamp a road through with an axe to make it further to Boulder further cat could go through the woods, Mike lumber bed Chad one two a little 30 Cat and Ronnie Lee used to go ahead of it and Mickelson drove the cat. And Ronnie used to swamp the road through the bush with the axe so the cat could get through and he and Mickelson took a whole bunch of piling out toward door place from Delaware Blackburn road where Mike's camp was so this bulldozer thing yeah they might attract the machine but not with the blade

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cranberry although our Dunbar was still working there on Harry Rogers property, but that's all Bob Dunbar.

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THOMPSON

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No zenki Oh yeah. Yeah, thank you. Thank you.

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School operate like Gilgamesh he shipped to Congress and record the Pope would deport Angela who was in about 1938 39.

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September 29th 26. According to the renewed September 26 1929

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dumped it where the firewall is today. A short logs he and Alan Connery did water had horses, and they fell all this older and he ordered it out and loaded on with TV, none of this flat deck truck. And Alan drove the truck and he broke down. And he had a couple of blocks, blocks. And he'd run the truck up on the snake blocks. They don't mean really what with a firewall is today where they walk walking around. He doesn't wait on the store side of the operating room and Teddy Wilson told him to

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do old the old THL I think it was no it wasn't the THL it was Tony before that he didn't get THL until 1940. I went to Prince Rupert with him to take it up to the Army Service Corps. That was

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Teddy Wilson. Don't get married Eunice.

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I went with them in April of 19. In April of 1940, I left school in April of first of 14. No, pardon me. At the end of April. I was in a new school for one month. It opened on the first of April of 40. And I was there for one month doing a correspondence course. And then I finished the course my left went to work and our first thing I did was to go and work with Uber, Teddy, and I went to Prince Rupert with them. And then I came home with a CPR

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trip for young adults for

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16 years old. And then later on, and I worked home I fell timber all summer with a crushed Turtle Beach and Alec Campbell to Philip zo. When I went to Alberta in August, I went threshing. We didn't make enough money to buy a pre ticket home so I ruined the pre 16 year old reading the scary stuff well when we got to Vancouver 125 guys on the freeway when I tell my grandchildren I would have railroad bomb they don't believe

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are you writing all this down?

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Silicon Stevens took a heavy toll of feeder Logan Paul's to Ladner No, I don't think so. They cut wood and loaded scouts and hauled it lander.

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This is a 1930 April 1930.

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Okay, but that would not necessarily I don't have quartered, none of them left. There's none of them left to verify that. But the secret they never law. They cut wood. And Lloyd Reynolds, I believe used to hold her wood down to be refined and loaded on the scow at Patterson store. And then they would take the lead and around Luna. But that was firewood. Kind of like 16 inch. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Stevens and silly. She still it was married to Pete natty Stevens fitter. I read Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't believe they were to vote. Logan Paul.

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Where did I get that from? 30.

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I'm sure it was part of what it says here. Every toilet seat.

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They have a boat. They took a heavy toll of cedar logs. They never logged on. They might have taken for someone maybe sounds like a fishbowl? Well, no,

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they had a theater thing. Vote yes.

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Hey, we will check that

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question mark. Because maybe they were the ones that took it with their symbols. Or somebody else would be

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would be COVID. Makeup, would they go loads of wood? firewood? Or House

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House?

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Not cordless. You say the kind of card would do.

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I would never build this for houses so forth. Yeah. Yeah.

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We, most of it sold for the Delta Airlines.

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That's right. That's right. Yes. Yes. The Japanese used to be it's close over here too, and unprovoked and they loaded up so loads of firewood and took it back to delta. And they did that on prvo when Ben was, in fact, in that early photo the Soviet economy put together there's an account of that where the Japanese have firewood unprovoked and loaded the board and so it was to be shipped to Delta. June 32, September 32 There's no mention of logging operations. Well, that's when Mike Loomer vich was here with his team.

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And JW Fletcher, he worked upon Musgraves. But now I have never heard of Adolf Craigie having a meal on Musgrave. It's possible, but I don't I never heard of him having a

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question mark on that.

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A lot of us fell in love with horses. And they called the log Stone Mountain I dumped them, but I never heard of Craigie. Having meal. Did you

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go to the Historical Society last month to hear from Duncan, we were unfortunately away. He logged for trading. He was yeah, he came in groceries for me, but anyway, put a question mark.

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Now, I won't say it's not true, but I never heard of Craigie getting a mill.

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Well, he would have been old enough to have heard of it too probably

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was folly railway tied to corporate harbor war. It's possible if it was really tight

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that they had to be know somewhere that sold them to McAfee.

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Or McAfee when Biden Do you think

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he would buy logs?

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No, I'll find out.

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Few brothers keen to Musgrave yes, we've gone through Wilfred fire land in the Grand River to foment left right on real Rogers property. And they logged up in Mason's head your Wakelin hauled the logs from the woods down to the mill on his Model A Ford truck logging trailer behind the course add your Waveland into their

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stories father

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uncle Uncle seemed optimistic proposed building a loading dock in the end using the filter with a five years timber supply on the

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logged a lot more than that. And 36 a days and 60 foot load for over

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well, while you're questioning

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that Yeah, but one log containing 5300 feet of lumber 24 feet long and eight feet foot in the water in Beaufort Harbor that love winning again. That's the one I'm saying this throw away call for joy love. And that's that is the tree video fix book photos where you guys are sitting in the undercut Yeah, that's the button log of that tree. Lord well wouldn't put it on his truck a certain way. And then the little two ton truck couldn't pull it. So Sergio had his other truck there and he put a chain and the two trucks and they had to bring it from from just below more cluster edge going downhill all the way down in the woods from work on the road when we cut wood in there and 41 certainly will pull the truck out up to mark where Mark but graduates today, they were down across a little wooden bridge and out through past Royals. Crawford's and still had to pull him up the hill by Crawford gate, and so on. And again, he had to pull him

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off to get into the Ganges. And then he probably put it behind all the backs.

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That could be another Got down again reason Joe Hartle was driving the truck. And he couldn't follow where the Ganges Marina is today. The Gulf of Flint was that for the dump was and it was kind of rough getting in there. And several had to pull him into there too. I remember the load going down the dome, and it only floated about that much above the water was eight feet on the inside of the bar. And it will only floated about that much above the water. And it took too long for that tree and had configured on the left. We went into your cutting wood in 1941 that particular bunch of timber was further down the road where we were working through a wide swath of timber, the wood timber for two bits accord and we went in and cut it lit it and piled it for $2.70 A chord and build a road to the file 2141 00 theta 270 accord one particular case he said no he said you don't need to pile your manager data we know what we're getting if we pile it so we hold for Rick's on his truck. But we finally make the one case for Rick's measure for written for long for files. And one day down the toilet from trofeo Frank gas and Mrs. Patterson we're running the white elephant. Not the white float Kevin.

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Your name again our son Have you signed

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a story he's the one that writes good letters to the correcting people who make the earth

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born here in 1923 Oh, yeah. Yeah, you've been here a while and you're just saying that you'd marry or jury as a

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young I'm 9020 marries 1919 20 January

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20 year old just feel born in January of 2014 and 22 Everyone wanted England then the day was telling my son in law not many people in Sofia lived here longer night. No, we did a little cold here implementing it or looking at

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your every day. Fewer every day well, my dad used to keep counting, you know, there was eight and then there was seven and five and maximal Albert rock on the news, finally, Sophie Kagan himself. So he came, and he, I think Sophie,

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Sophie lasted four more days, but he did. Oh, yeah. He always wanted to be the oldest president. They never got to be never made.

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Who's the Who's the one who's the longest? Married England? Oh, no.

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Oh, no, because Margaret zone and Mary Margaret. Mary. They're the oldest but

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what about the

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Chancellor's? knew they were born here they call 1912. And

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making 10k Well, Ronnie Lee was born 99 Well, he's an appraiser.

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30s born for that. Mary pretty must be. No,

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no. Mary Purdy came to teach school in 1930 when she was born 19 1211 or 12. She's two years younger than running

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around is probably the oldest one. He could be. He could fill

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out 100 didn't come 22

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No bill. No more.

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money did he say? He was 86. All liberal. But she was born here. She was born Nelson. Oh, when did they come here?

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Well, really, they'd be back and forth. But they really didn't move here till 1941 When? Tom? No, no, he returned about 41 or 42. He was 65. I think just about that at the end of the war, the beginning of the war. But they asked him to stay on because it needed to stay on for two years. And he meantime he built his house for some reason. But he was excise Customs and Excise on the login part. Okay. Yeah, that's what he did. Yeah, he was. He worked the old hazard mill. Before the 19 was father died. He worked there. But no, he she hasn't. She's connected with the island for years and years.

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I found her hurt when they're lifting longer than me. 27 MagMod they're makin you have the more family. Bob Baker. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. Yes. He's a little younger than Ronnie. He don't really find his

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energy drives girl Bob doors and his wife and they're all older than me. And somebody said to me one day well, you forgot about Dick royally. Gordon could walk with their kids compared to

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me. They're younger than me. Gordon younger than you is just a year old or younger.

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a year younger than me.

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For 9024 7071

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He looks older

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and take royalty a year and a half younger. Guess your Reynolds was a year and a half younger than me.

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It didn't grow Victorian the same year.

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Yeah. But Dig. Dig royal was adopted wasn't it? Anyway, a couple more things in here.

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Johnny, would you like a cup of tea or a cup of coffee?

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No coffee. For me Thanks for the lovely Thank you

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Greg you're joining to on the show Greg the clocks

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in 36 days to fix the foot load or overcome one law containing equity equity equity equity within corporate harbor we went to that URL WAGs truck folder with Joe hurdle driving

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well we've got some tape okay the tapes already there.

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Yeah, okay. Continue but few records many of the local meals were carried by Ireland brothers and W. Gilbert mod act as a broker brand new love many loving duranium delivery

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Pearl beach continue using his team for logging until 1943. It was later than that

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he said that on his tape he made about logging and it's work on the audit and so on it's in the archives Okay, and he said that that's where we got it from anyway Johnny well

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but came from him and that's great, but I thought it was later one mill owner well known to the old timers with the Lachman formerly horrible when winning and Howard hold the board, she continued to run the mill. The mill was currently about that and he said The mill was the load about 1932 and when he went to pierce island the guard when they had to put a question mark and ran the logging operation but we needed the hiring firing and all the cooking and Sunday improve the dragon crush across the time she didn't was winning never ever go over loving proceed rules a Model T and halt ties a lumber all the time but he never drove a loving Lloyd Reynolds hold on

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when he drove a truck when he wrote the Model T and hauled lumber and tie but she never drove loving.

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No she said that in an article remember she was writing in the when she was walking? She was writing in the

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Will you got a conversation with the writer but she never did the login? No, no.

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There's another one here.

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In 37 and 38 small Mills such as McAfee's and a few runners continue to operate. Fuse never had a sawmill fuse were strictly loving and they had an old Packard truck and they adapted or differently solid tires on the adapted or different rear end and do it with pneumatic tires. And that's what they were loved that they never owned a sawmill

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because they changed it from Colorado interesting. It doesn't

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have to be there was no way back in the woods behind their plate there was a front axle in the woods with follow tire and the old rear end with the train drive with a solid tire so they probably change both front and back and they put in a transmission

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but fuse never had a phone

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couldn't fill fill any of the jobs and do more. Extensions and things actually rear end and all the rest of it underneath the truck to try and pull the rear end out with a load of broken axle you get underneath the rear window because usually the broken the end of the axle you couldn't get it out to get to pick the rear end out and take the rear end apart to get the broken axle and that was a fighter here the actual year and put it all together again to get back under the mud and then charter up and

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well, you'd have to get the actual welders know anybody knew

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Lots of big thrill beats just got a good tape in the archives

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work with Alice gamble. Gamble and Carl Seymour was

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related to Bruce Campbell

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a different family mother

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brother and sister in law Alan Campbell she was rude Suzanne

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I thought she was

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as well. But he was to ride alongs and swim in the middle of Ganges harbour get on a longer something that was insisted that was closer to Dorothy and Helen was pretty sure.

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I know what Helen was lifted a little in the big field just above where Frank Alexander lived in

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merman garden and later on.

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Well, Miss Campbell was rooted and I always thought it was his sister. And my two sisters, Mary and live would listen when they were going to high school before we move down.

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Yeah, but I know I thought the channels are brutal. Because, see, here's my brother in same age with school all the time. Kids in their way all the time.

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33 me And Mary went down to live with Mrs. Campbell when they started in high school. And Florence separately, because she'd come to divided school. Number 33. She thought she was going to teach Mary in every high school. My parents didn't see at the high school. And they listed Mrs. Campbell. On one night Helen Campbell came over there raising so much hair that they got they got their suitcases and stuff. Everybody in the room they went to me and they came with me from amazing

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readymades parents

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in the Campbell house later on. Yes.

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What do you know about the old St. Mark's St Paul's Anglican Church burning down

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1938

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Just before the war pretty nice.

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Notice that Beauford Hall

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went at the same time.

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The same person didn't separate both.

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Teddy Wilson was

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the church who was he goes down the hall. I thought it was one of the the families that was always setting fires. An older one or one of them. One of the ones that married the cannon

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that was running. Well that was no that was but Hudson had hung himself in the barn.

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Oh before that. Oh, it was

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Teddy Wilson was the one that affected doing.

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What we love the corporate Hall as well. Yeah. Yeah.

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whether he did or not, no. I don't think he ever went too far.

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Or oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no. He's

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another one that was born here.

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But he's not around here. No, no, no. Didn't show. Yeah, he was the grandson of the old Reverend Barnsbury we turned into a go kart

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was his father Austin or Keith.

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Teddy was the brother.

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Who was he mad at? Wilson, who was he mad at why was he burning things down? Or just like big fires

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no explanation. He did. He was away from the island for a while and he

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Was that after the war force oh yeah I guess so because unifier is about same grade I think she was the same grade Mary are both the same. We maybe she's been very lower to Mary and I apologize. We're all the same grade.

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Yeah. GEORGE pain. I heard you heard. I haven't didn't get that far. Johnny, how

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do you like your tea?

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We don't like it. Really? Is that muscles? No, that's fine. I'll bring it to what do you take one of each, please.

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I'm terrible confession to me. We've only got skim milk. It'll cover your mother wouldn't let me make a cup of tea without putting the milk in first.

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Would you put the milk first in your cup?

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really upset.

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I know. She claims she could tell the difference.

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Well, you'll never know what that

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No, dear, I have a hard time that

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somebody went up to John Rogers one night to buy a bottle of wine to try and of course there's a bootlegger on each side everybody would whine and Stan Rogers told me who it was. But anyway the dog barked into the yard and it's better to be accepted as a dog barking at him and he went down he told the police anyway he said to John what are you going to vicious dog they're gonna rock Rogers and standard friendly you didn't even know you were here. Oh no, that's a vicious dog. And the next day the police showed up with a crook but they hold the barrels and barrels wind down again he rolled it out in the mud flat and put an X through it run all the water line out on the base

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materials are crying his eyes give

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me cried his eyes at all that beautiful

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night came 3536 or 3737

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Because I will go into high school I was going to high school and I bought a truck rolling in there when the barrel we want to know what was going on and John Rogers had been waiting

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you know the sequel us up for the court and sitting on the bench with my father and artery and so finally all this case was presented that to be had anything to say for himself I don't know what all the fuss is about my best customers are Mackey mode and remorse but neither one year suspended said he

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went haywire and he spent over and then he came back again and he never made any more one

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please yeah no no.

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Believe the funniest one I've heard though was on my dad Reynolds decided we don't have proper place to get a big fluffy Crawford field.

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Without goes he parked his car what a quarter of a mile away. Yes, I would walk down the road and and gun in his flashlight with a pet corner they always used to go to look in the field that sneaks down the road there was a mostly sneaks into this bench corner. And so me in front of was it was awkward

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Eddie Reynolds told that story.

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Well, I remember when we got a body into the hospital and the wife telling us later, her husband died and she wasn't home. That when she did get home a day or so later. We have our husband's tools is gone. Nobody's been in there but last

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year he wasn't a very reliable shot.

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One day he said to me, what was your police station? What did I do? He didn't want to do cars right here in the car. He's Stay off the road for a while I pay my license to register and now you know what I'm gonna stay home we're flatline your gun What's that all about? Some people quit living in Southern immediate adventure Don't quit your league isn't I don't want to get you

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feel insulted there's a lovely story of Charlie Horrell tells it was really after anybody he would he would see was different man do something and he rolled around and salty good spirits smell this anywhere. Johnny was living with his father and sister the cluster to see that choices of systems making new jobs different phones getting household jobs news one day here's Lockwood solving Sonic dog and his sister grabbed the broom just like that because there was a penance of everybody else doing pretty quick I always did everything she asked me after that

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Lockwood used to get the medicine

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Yeah. I've heard

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when you came in the ward

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no glory grabbing from here to the word 1950.

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Now let's deal about it this year I think

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deliver was here Yes.

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And his white silver and Duncan Duncan and there was another one. He was interviewed

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and was supposed to be his wife was present when the VC leasing was opened in the store and they put a plaque in the Ganges store and most store had a lot of plaques there and the BC police set it up to be placed there. So unveil

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the the monkey took over but I need 50 There was no more provincial police

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report right locked right

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here at a provincial police

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George Meier came here it's of course that's later use much later

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Roy Whitehead was here and 49 when it was provincial police

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either Dr. Francis is going to

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go anyway, I was prepping law firm and Cornell from

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I don't know where I came out going on and done it again. One day I just got into the dump and the police car was supposed to

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Roy day. He said where's your red flag? On a seat beside me. He wants a bill in there. I will have my stick at the end of the log loader said well forget about the dome won't get another one right here and never lose.

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He said what good is it very good to have up there next time. Yes, sir. Next time he pulled up again. Where's that flag? Right here.

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He's telling you to have it on the end of your load. I know you did that all right. Have it there next time. Next time I can down to the end of the load Do you ever have one load at one load

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anybody following a load are logged in can't see it. They can see a little play dead. Wrong.

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Do you want to take this and read it But

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it's quite good on the construction stuff, because he does say a lot about filling the road and so on, by the way, in 19, the old road used to come along the rock crusher, and then go up the hill by you to some space or

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not to refer to No,

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no, it was the other way.

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Where missions coming from Broberg before you get to Blackburn right over

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because you can still see that all roads sorted by right by our house. Go to the firehouse Yeah, yep. And galleries. stored here. I've never been in there where you can still sort of see the remains of the road

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to me Never.

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You remember the Blackburn's? Peter came back here after the war.

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At that time, my mother and dad were living in the old a right place later was tribution. And now I think Danny Reynolds and Linda England live in their

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home that's in the

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COVID offense on the old way place where Jerry Howard live with his parents.

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Military How would you sit down the road?

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That was before they moved up to this other place? When Jerry was going into high school when I was

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in high school 37 Yeah.

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Yeah. No, you were 44 grades ahead of I came into grade nine you were going

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to be this one on law and order for that to

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be very native to the boat. Someone that

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I was told that they were going to have trouble with the mail because he didn't because of the training they had with bilingual.

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Oh, yeah.

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We decided in the book we'll go with two words.

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Absolutely. We have to concern horrible. Consider tizzy. Luckily, me too. I always use one word. Why? Because

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that's what it legally is.

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I don't think so. Oh, yes.

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What are you looking at? You are in any government. Any government anywhere up till now.

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Okay. Now you just look at your land title. Which is the government of British Columbia. Look, you're trying to work to work. Now if it was changed in Ottawa in 1903. How come the registry office and Pretoria have never heard of it yet?

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Yeah. But they left the only lapse and have you seen other places almost always.

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So when I was when I was a kid, everything on the phone offering was offering pre reads before

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I know it was as different as Saltspring insurance Saltspring

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as I would do with Johnny Shamu here beyond

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Spring Island name for the springs at the north end. And then they pay up to three or 95 a change in Ottawa. Worldwide.

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No, they didn't change a big change. They accepted the name of salts revision was Admiralty admirals Island. That's what it used to be a change to Saltspring

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they it was still adding the titles on the Geographical Survey

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was still sitting still admirals on it. Even though it's called Salzburg everywhere. They call it they made it all one word. And legally. I'd like to know I think if you looked at the word no, I don't worry. Just because people like you object to it.

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The old school pins reveal SSH. Sorry, HS s sih through the Salt Spring Island High

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wasn't Salt Spring High School? Spring Island

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I had one of those hands when I went to Vancouver in 1942 at the Vancouver I had my girlfriend and she got my pin off me one day and it was less than we ever thought you're very much here after this. She got my pin and

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I wonder if any of those around now

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I don't know if anybody's still out there. There's not too many of us left and I wonder

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if he might not remarry much but I'm just what happened to mine anyway. Harry Roberts phoned me yesterday. Oh, yes.

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Yeah. Quite a bit about him and Driftwood Do you see that but

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he wanted to he wanted to copy. Oh, I didn't send him one.

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He was really well, he was viewed as Roberts brother younger. He is your age or younger. He's from December to May younger. The great enemy of school. What was he doing? While he was he wasn't here, but he was in the Canadian Scottish Oh.

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Anyway, he phoned me and asked me if I'd seen the article and he said he has quoted possibly I get a copy of that. I've been sure. I said I think we've still got our coffee right here. So I called him on and I said you have that article apparently. He went and set it out and put it in limbo. I would put more minutes today and I come up with every other day

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what's the fire 200