Mrs. King talks about the King family, her father-in-law Leon King and his wife Sophie Purser. A transcript of this tape is in the file

V. SHIPS: Commercial shipping in King family
VI. AGRICULTURE: Fruit farming
IX. TRANSPORTATION: In Mr. King's sloop
XI. LOCALITY: Beaver Point
XIII. SCHOOLS: Beaver Point School
XIV. SAWMILLS: Cusheon Cove Mill
XVI. NAMES: Purser family; King family; Emily Murphy; Fisher family;
Akerman family
XX. BUILDINGS: Travellers' Rest


Gladys King interview - 1

Interviewee:   Gladys Margaret King
Interviewer:    no detail except interviewed by Salt Spring Historical Society
June 14/77
Interviewer:    It is approximately 10:30 in the morning and Mrs. King is going to help us relive the history of the King family. We arc fortunate. She has a great deal of information for us.
King: Grandpa was born in _______ which was a Greek colony at that time. His family was an
important exporting family. Grandpa went to school with the priests. He was very knowledgable and he spoke Greek, Latin, Arabic, and but not English.
Interviewer:    His family was into shipping.
King: They were into importing, exporting, shipping all over the world. My uncle was the captain of a ship. My father wanted more than anything to go to sea but Grandpa said he must be a doctor or a lawyer. So my father stowed away on my uncle's ship. He popped his head out when they were well out into the Agean Sea and my uncle reassured my father that it would be no joyride. He was a cabin boy, a seaman and whatever it took - he loved it. These trips took several years. I believe it was on this trip but I'm not sure it may have been a later one but I believe it was this one they went to England. While they were in England he left the ship and stayed in England for some lime. He learned English, taught himself to read and write. Then he earned his way over on another sailing ship going to the States. While lie was there he fought in the American Civil War. I don't know which side he fought on but he fought, (this was about 1850) I would think he must have been about 20 probably. Anyway, then it was over they found gold in California. He thought this would be a marvelous thing. He was going to make a fortune and go back and show all these people back in Spema how smart he was. He didn't have to be a lawyer or anything else. So he got on another sailing ship and he went around the horn and up to California. In San Francisco they did an awful lot of shanghaing at that time. He and another fellow got hauled oft and put on a ship. They weren't allowed out on deck when then they were in port when the ship stopped for provisions. They were going to go, I am not sure where - it happened that it was around the time, I guess after the time that Victoria had got gas lights so of course it showed up the town quite well. The light reflected. He was on watch and he said to the officer that was there "what are those lights over there?" He said "mats Victoria". He said "oh, is that in Washington Territory or Oregon Territory?" "Oh no, that is in the British Colony." They were at least 3 miles offshore as they were going by. It was night and he got off watch and he went down below deck and he said to this fellow, Portugeuse fellow "I'm leaving, if you want to come, if you can swim you can come." He put his clothes in a duffel bag, jumped overboard and swam ashore. He wasn't a tall man, quite stocky, very broad shoulders and so the other man came with him and he helped him get ashore and they got to Victoria where they spent some time. They were opening up Sallspring Island for settlement so they had a look at it and he liked it so he got some land. Being a man from the Agean, when everyone else was choosing inland territory he chose something on the water. He had a boat and he used to pick things up - he would pick up things for the farmer in the islands. He would go to Nanaimo and get bags of coal for people if anyone could afford to have a bag of coal. One time when he was delivering some grain - now at thai time grain was in 200 Ib bags and his mother tells me they referred to them at peas. But if it was fodder crop it may have been peas. He was climbing up the rocky beach up to the farm and he slipped and fell and broke his back. From that time on he was bent at the waist. He managed to get back down out to his boat and sail back home. How he did it I don't know, it is a wonder lie didn't die. All the rest of his life he used to have these white linen clothes that needed to be changed several times a day because with his pain he would perspire a great deal.
Interviewer:   There was no doctor on the island.
King: I don't suppose so, no. And so tie married and it seems to me he was married at that time. And he quit going and doing so much of this and he...
Interviewer:   He married Mrs. Emily Murphy. King: Yes. She was from the Saanich Reserve. Interviewer   She was Indian?
King: He was a great fan for trees and plants and he - this up here was his nursery where he did his grafting and all this sort of thing. And those trees over there, the ones you can see over in the far orchard, they arc not in flower now but you can see bare trees over there, those trees are 100 years old.
Interviewer:    And he had to clear all this land?
King: Yes, with oxen and what have you. And up here, this particular piece up here which was a cedar block here is loaded with rocks because when he was doing this he would tell the boys to pick rocks and the boys brought them up as far as here and dumped them.
Interviewer:    So when you say the boys you are talking about his children then?
King: Yes, this was Alexander and Constantine and Leon.
Interviewer:   And maybe we better say approximately what time these boys were bom.
King: Well, Leon's father would be about 104 nghi now and the other two were older than that.
Interviewer:   Constantine was the first boy born?
King: I believe so.
Interviewer:   And then Alexander?
King: I believe so. Leon was the youngest. And he would be 104 now.
Interviewer:   He died 1958?
King: Yes.
Interviewer:   And there was a real tragedy...
King: They must have died in about 1904 or 1905.
Interviewer:    Tell us a bit about that.
King: The Victoria Seed Company had a number of ships, sloops that went to Japan and up in the ________ Islands and a number of the boys from Salt Spring Island were on the __________. C
onstanline and Alexander were on and also Dick Purser who was an uncle of my husband. A storm came up and being close to Russian they pulled into Mermantz, not Mennantz what is up the Pacific. Oh I don't know, they used to go into Russia because they would stop there and gel provisions in Russia. Of course Alaska belonged to Russia at that time so they stopped in there and they stopped in Japan and different places to get provisions. Because they were gone for a long time. But anyway it had provisioned and gone out again and there was a hurricane and it went down with all hands and nobody was heard from again. It was one of the real tragedies of our time because there were so many young men particularly from the Island here who had gone down. It was one of the belter paying ones because they did very well, so they did better. Although their wages were very poor as you can see. $10.00 and $12.00 sent to the father.
Interviewer:   We have the pleasure to have the original receipts of the monies paid to them. Its true that it didn't seem like much money but I suppose they managed. Now the third son was Leon.
King: Yes.
Interviewer:   We are skipping around a bit but he was married to Sophie Purser in approximately 1900. King: Yes. Now her father was a magistrate at one time. It was at this end of the Island. Interviewer:   This is not Dick Purser, because that was her brother.
King: No, I believe his name was Dick too but I am not sure. And Mr. King had told her that when he was a little boy they referred to Mr. Purser as that "long stalky Englishman", because he wore the plus four type pants, you know these knickers. So they referred to him as that "long stalky Englishman". Mr. Purser and Mr. King and another couple of fellows built the Roman Catholic church. Both of their wives were Roman Catholic and although Mr. King was Greek Orthodox.
Interviewer:   Now we are talking about Joseph King and the father of Sophia Purser.
King: Now you see Mr. Purser and Mr. King both worked on this church Mr King was Greek Orthodox but his wife was Roman Catholic and the Pursers were Roman Catholic so they worked on it.
Interviewer:   Mrs. Purser was the daughter of a Cowichan chief.
King: And she was married to him ....
Interviewer:   What was her first name, do you remember?
King:  Mrs. King always referred to her as mother. Mrs. King never did say who she was.
Interviewer:   We have done a bit of skipping around. I interrupted your story about moving stones. You were referring to his boys and T wanted people to know who his boys were. Can you go back to the moving of the stones?
King: Oh yes. He would tell them to take the stones and of course the boys didn't take them too far and just dumped them up here in this ________. And so of course we have got all the stones from down
there and all the stones from here. They had a log house down there originally and now I have -1 gave to my husband's cousin's daughter and stone that grampa had carved and I still have one here. I gave her a metal fish that was a rounded slotted or a - with a hole and a handle that you took fish out of when you were
poaching it. But I still have one of the wooden spoons that he made. Now I don't just know when Gramma King died because I don't think she was here when Sophie and Leon were married.
Interviewer:   Now this is the original Mrs. Murphy that you are referring to? Emily.
King: Yes. And I don't think - she cither had died or died shortly after they had been married. Because Leon and Sophie were married here.
Interviewer:   She is buried here? King: Yes.
Interviewer:   OK, now lets see, then Leon and Sophie Purser were married about 1900 and they in turn had...
King: Yes, they had all these children. Interviewer:    OK can you tell us their names and approximate dates of birth.
King: Yes, there was Hazel and she was born in 1902 and then there was Vera and she was born in 1904 and then there was Bernard and he was born in .... oh, Kenneth was before Bernard wasn't he. Kenneth was in 1907 and then Bernard in 1909, Evelyne in 1911 and Leon in 1914.
Interviewer:   And Leon was your husband?
King: Yes. Seven days - a week before Leon was born his grandfather died. The family just had the new house built. They had a log house that Grampa had built and they lived in the log house that Grampa had built.
Interviewer:   This is the old house that was originally down on - closer to the waterfront.
King: They look the log house down but the other house is still there. They were all ready to move in and the grampa died. Grampa had, by this time been bothered very much with this back and he had hurt his leg. He felt that...He said to us learn to swim so he taught us how to swim. He taught us aU the things that...
Interviewer:    This is Sophie we are talking about.
King: Yes. And this is grampa at the end of grampa's lifetime. He had...she would go out and fish. She loved to go out fishing and grampa looked after the children a great deal. She was a great one for anyone that was sick, she would go and look after them and help them. Sometimes she would go to the doctor and grampa looked after the children. He spoilt them terribly. He put jam on anything they wanted. He didn't care what it was he put jam on it. The children loved him and he used to give them rides. Even with his bad back, his bent back he used to ride them around on his hack. And he and a couple of other fellow built this school up here because the children had to go to school. Then he felt when got working - he wasn't well and he must not be in the house with the children. So he had a little shed that they fixed up for him and he had a bed ...and Leon's mother looked after him.
Interviewer:   Did he have his leg removed then?
King: Well I don't know if he couldn't have or didn't wish to or what. I don't know. Of course they were
getting quite scared because here was his daughter looking after him and she was expecting Leon but anyway then he died just before - the doctor wouldn't let her go to the funeral because it was too close .
Interviewer:   He died approximately when?
King: In 1914 in December.
Interviewer:   He also was a member of the catholid church.
King: Yes. He was.
King: When grampa first came here there wasn't any way of getting things in and out unless you went by either canoe or sailing ship so he had a ship so he went to Nanaimo, to Victoria, to Vancouver, Bellingham, anywhere where there were goods that had to brought to the island or things that were taken there to sell. At one time Salt Spring Island was the fruit basket of British Columbia. The apple trees, plum trees, pear trees were very prolific and he used to take the fruit and produce all other to sell for the farmers and anybody who wanted to go somewhere got him to take them and they went. He was a small shipping company in himself. He just had the one boat and did it all himself. A lot of the business that people did was in Bellingham in those days. People would row over to Bellingham - they would row and they would have a little sail up and off they would go and they would shop over in Bellingham because they could get things there that they couldn't get or thai were more expensive to get. You sec if they went to Victoria they had to go over there they had to get the E & N Railway from Sydney in Victoria and back out and this sort of thing or they could go and when it got to be night you just stopped at an island and caught fish on the way. When you got where you were ready to eat you would make your tea and get out your bread and butter and cook your fish and have your supper and lay down in the boat and cover yourself all up in the comforters that you had taken, your down quilts and things and then continue on the next day and it was like a little holiday to go over to Bellingham to buy the things that you couldn't buy here.
Interviewer:   You didn't have to go through immigration or customs.
King: Oh no, no, no. You just went and did it. And of course he used to go with his sloop, you see and do a lot of business over there as well. And then he had his orchard and he had his wife I would imagine would have chickens and this sort of thing and at that lime you could just go down to a beach and spear rock cod when Lee was a boy he used to spear rock cod down there. And salmon you just went out with your line and trolled along and got salmon. Deer were very plentiful so you shot a deer - really you were quite self-sufficient and with his doing his business all over the country with his sloop and this sort of thing why he had a very comfortable life and there were Greeks over on the mainland over around Delta and he would go over there and see them and they would come over here. And so they would come over here and go to church in Nanaimo and have great old times. And of course with him being such a well-educated man any business that they needed doing and this sort of thing, translations and all this sort of thing they got him to do. And we have here a handmade trunk. It was always referred to as _______ truck. And it is made
out of camphor wood and it is from Greece. And some old Greek came and left it with grampa. He was going to go somewhere and he didn't want to take it. So he left it with grampa and nobody every saw ______ again. So, 1 still have _______'s trunk made from camphor wood. You always here about
the holy land and camphor wood and this sort of thing so I think well there, at least I may never get to see the place but at least I've got some camphor wood. So grampa was a man many parts. He was well-educated and yet he was a man of the people. The Indians, if they had any fights or squabbles or anything else, they would come to him. Because he knew - they would tell him both sides and they would say which was right
and they would go away quite happy because he had settled it. He would call in - all the Indians along the coast knew him because he would call in and do all sorts of things for them. They would come and see him here.
(over to side two)
King: ...he said the Indians would come in their canoes and they would herd them all up and they would shoot them and they would maybe get 500 of these divers and they would take them home for a big potlatch. If you asked them they would let you have the feathers. So you could make down pillows or down comforters, down comforters or down anything. Not only did you have the ones that you shot yourself and did but they would just give you ihe down. Lee said that when he was a small boy it was just like a bunch of cowboys, they'd herd them up. Then they'd take them and have a potlatch.
Interviewer:   We are going to talk about Sophia Purser now.
King: Well she has quite a story to her life also. Sophie was born in 1880. The land at _____ lake belonged to Sophie. She had...her father had been a magistrate and her mother had been married to a Mr. Fisher at one time and he had died. Now they owned I believe it was Pier Island, yes it was Pier Island. But in the custom of the Cowichan when the chief dies all Ins possessions were burned. So she burned the title to Pier Island. There should have been records of it in the Land Title Office. All of the sudden Pier Island belonged to someone else. But they had owned it, I'm sure it was Pier Island. And so they lived at Stoney Lake, when she married Mr. Purser and they farmed there. And he is buried there. On the Byron property. And for years there was a little white picket fence around his grave. Sophie was about 2 when he died. So her mother had children and she had an older son who was about 18 or so, George Fisher by her first husband and then she had 3 girls and 1 think a couple of boys.
Interviewer:   So this was by Mr. Fisher?
King: No, by Mr. Purser. The first was Mr. Fisher, George Fisher was by Mr. Fisher and then she had 3 girls and 2 or 3 boys by Mr. Purser and she had to make a living. Now George Fisher had been educated. He had been sent over to Duncan and he was educated by the priest. He was going to become a priest himself but he changed his mind. But Mrs. Fisher had to raise her children so she went to work for Mr. Eiker at his inn. And she would do anything thai was necessary around and in his store.
Interviewer:    It was called "Journey's Rest" wasn't it?
King: Yes, thats it. So she would carry Sophie down there. Sophie may have been a little younger than 2 -she may have been not quite 2 at the time. And they would spoil her, men who came to the place. They just absolutely spoiled her to death. And they would give her a cup of tea and let her put as much sugar in as she liked. She became quite fond of sugar. So when she was around 3 her brother George realized that she was gelling tar too spoiled. Something would have to be done about it. He went to the school, the catholic school that was taken care of by nuns and he asked if they would take his sister. Sophie was only 3 and the nuns said they weren't a babysitting outfit they were a school. But he thought she needed to be there. But they couldn't afford to pay. Because lie had been educated by the priests he knew there must be some way that it must be possible. They said they were building an enormous big bam. If he would cut all the shakes for this barn then they would take Sophie. So George said I'll do it. But George didn't know how to cut shakes. So George went to the _____ and asked them how. And they knew how to cut shakes and they showed him and helped him cut the shakes. And he cut all the shakes for this big bam. And they took his sister. So at 3 Sophie went to the catholic school. She used to tell me this and she used to laugh and laugh. She told me
about having her lunch and how they gave her some tea and she said "Sugar me tea, sugar me tea". And she wanted about 4 spoonfuls of sugar in and they wouldn't give her 4 spoonfuls of sugar. But this was her swansong, every time she got tea she would yell "sugar me tea, sugar me tea". And so they called her sugar. All the time that she was there they called her sugar. And she had quite a time there. One of the stories she told me was one time she went fishing. She loved to go down to the dock at Duncan. She was fishing and she got a fish hook in her hand. So she came in crying. The priest said you must be a big brave girl and not cry. If you don't cry I'll give you something. She said what will you give me. He reached into his pocket and he had a quarter. So he said I'll give you the quarter if you don't cry. So she said alright, I won't cry. So he took a razor and cut her finger and took the hook out and then they tied it up. She said it was terribly painful but I wanted the quarter more. As soon as they did it she said I'll have my quarter please. Mother Superior said Sophie you don't ask for money. She said I'm not asking for it, he has already given it to me so it is mine. I didn't cry. So he gave her a quarter. She saved it and then she got a little red toque. It was such a beautiful red toque she didn't want to wear and get it dirty. She said one night there was a ringing at the door and when they looked there was a baby in a basket. So they brought the baby in and the sisters looked after this baby. And she said do you know what and 1 said, no, what? She said they look my toque and gave it to that baby. She said I never liked that baby because it had my red toque. Sophie found it very very difficult to say I'm sorry if she did something. She found it very difficult to say I'm sorry- So she got into a lot of trouble and was spanked quite regularly. She was very aggravating to the sisters because she wouldn't cry. There is nothing more aggravating than spanking a child that won't cry. But anytime they ever wanted anybody to run an errand and do things quickly they got Sophie because she could run so fast and they never knew why she could run faster than anybody else.
Interviewer:   Was she a very small woman, always?
King: No, she was...until the day she died, she was 95 when she died. She was about 5'4" I would think, or maybe 5". She had been plumper when she was having her children although not a great lot. I would think maybe about 145 or something like that. For all that she didn't appear to be she was a large boned woman, a very strong person. When Lee and I were married she was 87 and I had told somebody that Lee's mother was 87 and they said "My goodness, is she coming to the wedding?" and I said "yes" and they said "how will she get there" and I said "she'll come with her family" and they said "well she won't be able to be around at that age" and 1 said "but she doesn't look that age". So then at the wedding somebody said to me "I thought you said Lee's mother was going to be here" and I said "she is" and they said "where" and I said "over there" and they said "but you said she is 87, that woman isn't 65". I said "oh yes she is, she is 87". But she was very youthful, she had a serenity about her. She was one of those kinds of people that if something didn't sit well with her then she ignored the fact that it was there. She just was able to put it away and ignore it. But she was there at the convent until she was 16 and then her sister had gone to work where the bishop's palace. I don't know why they called it the bishop's palace, but thats where he lived. So she sent to see her there once and her sister she had gotten ________ because her mother had bought her a lace shawl for her ....her
confirmation or something. And the ________ told her that she should give it to the Virgin Mary. And so she gave it to the Virgin Mary and this had rather an effect. And then a later time when I believe she was told that her shawl had been given to someone. That did quite hurt her. She lost her...she had apparently been quite a religious girl. Sophie all her life was a staunch Roman Catholic but she knew that they took your toques and they took your shawls. So they were human. It sort of gave her a little insight. Yes she - as much as she was a very devout Roman Catholic she knew that if the ocassion arose they would take your lace shawl or whatever for some reason. That probably made her able to cope with a lot of things through life because she realized even churchs would do these things. So when she came out of the convent she went to work in Victoria. She worked for a lady there and she went to stay with her brother Ed in Sooke because he logged he had a logging show. And then she went to work for a lady who was going to - she was looking after the children. The man had gone to Japan or China - somewhere in the Orient. So she was going to go as
the nanny with the lady to the Orient and they went to Seattle and when they got there somebody stole the lady's purse and she was waiting to hear from her husband and she hadn't heard from him yet and oh she was in such a state. So Sophie said, she went to a man in the hotel and said that she would work as a chambermaid to pay their way. Anyway they were there, I don't know how long they were there, a couple ol' months I guess. She worked at this hotel as a chambermaid so they could stay there and who does this nowadays for an employer. But anyways then they came back. The lady heard from her husband and she was to go at a later time. Then she came over to Sallspring and met Leon and she stayed at...
Interviewer:    Wasn't her mother still on the island at this time? King: Yes. And she was living with George and his wife. Interviewer:    This is her elder brother.
King: Yes, her halfbrother. And George had managed, when MR. Purser she had almost done the same thing with that as she had done with the other stuff. But she managed but Ford managed to somehow get...So they did have it yet. So ...oh folk tell us about her riding to the doctor and the knight on horseback and she's smiling on this horse that she used to ride and go to get the doctor when somebody was sick and this sort of thing.
Interviewer:   Where would the doctor be at that time. The Central at that time?
King: I think so.
Interviewer:   Because Ganges wasn't much of a town.
King: Nn And then she married Leon and he was about 3 years older than she was.
Interviewer:   So they were about how old when they were married.
King: She was about 20 or 21,1 think she was 21 and he was 24 or 25. And he logged and he fished, he had a fishing boat. He would troll the Fraser and fish.
Interviewer:    Did they stay here.
King: Yes, they stayed here at the house with Grampa and he taught Sophie how to cook because she had never learned how to cook at the convent. She could cook some stuff but he taught her all this Greek cooking and making pilaf. He taught her how to fish.
Interviewer:   It was easy, all she had to do was run out in the front yard more or less.
King: And then there was a sickness, somebody had died over on Wexler Island. She and a couple of other ladies had went over there in a canoe. She was expecting Hazel, this girl. And so off they went in this canoe. She was wearing, because she was pregnant a large long cape that went down to the ground. And of course a long dress that came down to the ground and boots that came up above her ankles and a wind came up. They tipped the canoe over and she almost drowned because she couldn't swim. So Grampa said you are not going out in a canoe until you have had that baby and as soon as you have had that baby you are going to learn how to swim. You are not going to go out again until you have learned how to swim. He was a very good swimmer so he taught her how to swim. So he not only taught her how to cook and catch fish he taught her
how to swim. And they spent a great deal of time together because Papa was away quite a bit of the time, Leon was away quite a bit of the time, fishing and this sort of thing. So she and grampa - and he looked after the children quite a bit for her, managed the farm and they had chickens and they had different things and they had pigs at that time and this pig kept getting out and so Sophie always referred to Lcon. her husband, as Pa. So Papa would get this pig back in again. Papa got so put out with this pig one day that he went and shot it. So she thought at least we are going to have some ham and bacon and pork and all this. She was all prepared to get water boiling for doing this pig. And he was digging a hole. She said "what are you doing". He said "I'm going to bury the pig". She said "but Papa. we will eat it." He said "I wouldn't eat that pig -1 hate that pig, that pig has made my life so miserable for so long that 1 won't cat the pig. So, she said, he buried it. That was the end of that pig. She said really, they didn't have any meat at that time. We needed that pig. But Papa was so cross and once he had made his mind up to something there was no changing it. As a rule he was a very amiable person, very happy type person. But if he got very put out with something and made up his mind nothing in this world would change it. So that was the end of the pig. But they logged. This property here has been logged off about 3 times. They had Hindus in here once that...
Interviewer:   Approximately what time would that be?
King: Oh in the early on up to about 1920 or so. One time when they were logging it off. Lee was a little boy. He must have been about 2. He had curl dark hair, it hung down in ringlets. Apparently he was quite the one for finding a soft lap to sit on. He was always going around looking where people were sitting and then he would find the one that was most comfortable and climb up. He was a very cute kid with curly hair but he wasn't supposed to be around where they were logging because this was horse logging and they had these big teams of horses and they would take them down to the landing down there and dump them into the ocean. And so lie was, every chance he got. out there. Of course with these horses dragging these logs it got to be - this is black, black soil. It gels when its dry a very powdery powdery stuff. So there Lee would be plodding along behind these logs with all this stuff. Then his sister Haydra, this was her summer holidays when she wasn't at school. She would take him home, bath him, change his clothes and put him out in the yard again. Then she would wash his clothes and put them out on the line. And it kept her busy all day because as soon as they would get dry she would madly iron them because she knew that in another hour she was going to have to find him again and bring him in again. Because he, with his bare feet and legs plodding back and forth behind horses. His mother said all you could see were the whites of his eyes. The rest of him was just a browny blacky blob and the whites of these eyes - having brown eyes, all you could see were the whites of his eyes or if he stuck his tongue out, his pink tongue. He was the funniest looking little thing. And his sister spent all summer with him in a tub of water. They had - Mr. King worked over at Cusheon Cove. They were logging over at Cusheon Cove. And all the...
Interviewer:   You mean Sophie's husband.
King: Sophie's husband. Papa. The lumber for this house was milled at Cusheon Cove. They brought it around and they rebuilt the house and the barn. The barn was built in 1908. You can see it down there. Because Papa was busy normally and Evelyne was always here for Dad and when you came out of the house Papa was up on the roof and so was Evelyne - she was 2. Sophie had a fit, she was fit to be tied that they would take this baby up on the roof. But she cooked for them because she said they would butcher a cow and then she would can it, the meal. Over at Cusheon Cove, over at the mill there. He fished, too, he was away a lot of the time. So she and grampa spent a lot of time together.

Accession Number 989.031.0 Interviewer  
Date 1977
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